Another tanking team in the LEast?

[csfansince60s]

We may just be adding the Cavs to the teams "officially" tanking.

The Cavs haven't been playing great anyway, but this could possibly be the death blow to their season.

http://t.basketball.realgm.com/realgm/#!/entry/kyrie-irving-feels-pop-in-knee-will-undergo-mri-wednesday,52c35f37e56d0bb853461b07

The MRI tomorrow will be determinative as to what the Cavs plans are for the season.

Verajao will most likely be gone . Can we get anything from them?

Not sure we can as their vets we have no need for (verajao and Jack) and they will want to hold onto their picks and youth.

[LarBrd33]

If Kyrie is done for the season and they want to stay competitive in an effort to attract LeBron this offseason...

I'd offer them:

Rondo - 12 mil 2 years
Bass - 6.4 mil 2 years
Green - 8.7 mil 3 years

(total 27 mil)

For

Bynum - 12 mil
Kyrie - 5.6 mil 2 years
Waiters - 3.8 mil 3 years
Bennett - 5.3 mil 4 years

(total 27 mil)

Of course... I think they'd have to let Varejao expire in order to have enough cap space to even offer LeBron in the offseason... but maybe if you swapped out Humph's expiring for Bass it would make more sense.

LOL

[chambers]

We may just be adding the Cavs to the teams "officially" tanking.

The Cavs haven't been playing great anyway, but this could possibly be the death blow to their season.

http://t.basketball.realgm.com/realgm/#!/entry/kyrie-irving-feels-pop-in-knee-will-undergo-mri-wednesday,52c35f37e56d0bb853461b07

The MRI tomorrow will be determinative as to what the Cavs plans are for the season.

Verajao will most likely be gone . Can we get anything from them?

Not sure we can as their vets we have no need for (verajao and Jack) and they will want to hold onto their picks and youth.

Their plan was to replace Bynum with Gasol and make a run at the playoffs post All Star break.

We'll have to wait and see what happens with Irving's knee.
Fingers crossed his knee is okay and it all goes ahead with Gasol/Bynum.

Only makes our draft pick chances better.

[SHAQATTACK]

Wow

The NBA

Is just gonna be one huge. Tank a paloosa


I don't see how the east can get better ...if the good west teams get picks higher than a ton of horrible east teams

The worst ten teams period in the whole league should be in the lottery   Regardless of conference ........the west will only get stronger with this type of system that rewards conference and not the actual bad teams overall.

[gpap]

I'd love to have Varajeo.

[LarBrd33]

Honestly if a team decided to go against the grain and be a buyer this year... they could make a killing right now.  Some team with nothing to gain in the lotto (Brooklyn/Knicks) needs to take advantage of this. 

[SparzWizard]

The East may be weak, but sadly the last two championships have gone to the East.

[gpap]

Doesn't look like anything is wrong with Kyrie.

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA

The MRI on Kyrie Irving's left knee is considered precautionary, league sources tell Yahoo. No damage expected to be found.

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But...if they want to tank, I'd be more than happy to take Kyrie off their hands. They can have Danny Ainge in return and he can try to sell Cleveland fans on how "making the playoffs is not a goal."

That'll get over well.

[csfansince60s]

Doesn't look like anything is wrong with Kyrie.

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA

The MRI on Kyrie Irving's left knee is considered precautionary, league sources tell Yahoo. No damage expected to be found.

Twitter

That's good news. Not only do I like him as a player, but with him still in play, Cavs have a chance to make the playoffs in the East, particularly if they get Gasol or Deng.

Gasol would be better short term for their playoff chances. They're pretty thin up front and Verajao can use all the help he can get. The downside is that makes the Fakers even more lottery bound, with more ping pong balls and gives them financial flexibility as well.

Deng will fill Cavs need for a good SF, and also would help them quite a bit in making the playoffs. Don"t like that it makes another East team, the Bulls, more likely to tank, though.

[gpap]

Doesn't look like anything is wrong with Kyrie.

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA

The MRI on Kyrie Irving's left knee is considered precautionary, league sources tell Yahoo. No damage expected to be found.

Twitter

That's good news. Not only do I like him as a player, but with him still in play, Cavs have a chance to make the playoffs in the East, particularly if they get Gasol or Deng.

Gasol would be better short term for their playoff chances. They're pretty thin up front and Verajao can use all the help he can get. The downside is that makes the Fakers even more lottery bound, with more ping pong balls and gives them financial flexibility as well.

Deng will fill Cavs need for a good SF, and also would help them quite a bit in making the playoffs. Don"t like that it makes another East team, the Bulls, more likely to tank, though.

Agreed on Kyrie. I take it you want to see the Celts in the lottery? Me and Tommy Heinsohn don't.

I think you and Ainge do. Looks like you win

[csfansince60s]

Doesn't look like anything is wrong with Kyrie.

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA

The MRI on Kyrie Irving's left knee is considered precautionary, league sources tell Yahoo. No damage expected to be found.

Twitter

That's good news. Not only do I like him as a player, but with him still in play, Cavs have a chance to make the playoffs in the East, particularly if they get Gasol or Deng.

Gasol would be better short term for their playoff chances. They're pretty thin up front and Verajao can use all the help he can get. The downside is that makes the Fakers even more lottery bound, with more ping pong balls and gives them financial flexibility as well.

Deng will fill Cavs need for a good SF, and also would help them quite a bit in making the playoffs. Don"t like that it makes another East team, the Bulls, more likely to tank, though.

Agreed on Kyrie. I take it you want to see the Celts in the lottery? Me and Tommy Heinsohn don't.

I think you and Ainge do. Looks like you win

+1 for reading between the lines (and the good-nature of your post), although I have had mixed emotions about making the playoffs.

This last loss to the Hawks pushed me over the edge, though. It just underscored for me just how many deficiencies our team has.

It was a disheartening loss on so many levels. Up 18 against a team without their best player and virtually no frontcourt except for Milsap. The inexperience of our coach and his failure to both exploit our frontcourt advantage and to manage the game/substitutions effectively as well as the lack of leadership of our own players cost us a game against a team that we especially want to lose this season. That game had to give the Hawks bigtime confidence. Not good.

Add to that the fact that we're facing a brutal January kinda cinched the lottery desire for me.

However, my opinion is fluid, and anything near a .500 record in January and/or a total Hawks collapse (which, I think is very possible) could change my mind and possibly Danny's?

[BballTim]

  The Cavs have averaged about 21 wins over the last 3 seasons and added a bust of a draft pick. Tanking for them would be a 10-12 win season.

[SHAQATTACK]

after the Bulls , a game we can win.......the next three weeks could be potentially one of the most brutal series in many years......

[European NBA fan]

If Kyrie is done for the season and they want to stay competitive in an effort to attract LeBron this offseason...

I'd offer them:

Rondo - 12 mil 2 years
Bass - 6.4 mil 2 years
Green - 8.7 mil 3 years

(total 27 mil)

For

Bynum - 12 mil
Kyrie - 5.6 mil 2 years
Waiters - 3.8 mil 3 years
Bennett - 5.3 mil 4 years

(total 27 mil)

Of course... I think they'd have to let Varejao expire in order to have enough cap space to even offer LeBron in the offseason... but maybe if you swapped out Humph's expiring for Bass it would make more sense.

LOL

If the Cavs did something like that, I would expect some crazed fan to burn down the Quicken Loans Arena. Maybe not even a single crazed fan, but rather a mob with hay forks and torches.

[gpap]

Doesn't look like anything is wrong with Kyrie.

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA

The MRI on Kyrie Irving's left knee is considered precautionary, league sources tell Yahoo. No damage expected to be found.

Twitter

That's good news. Not only do I like him as a player, but with him still in play, Cavs have a chance to make the playoffs in the East, particularly if they get Gasol or Deng.

Gasol would be better short term for their playoff chances. They're pretty thin up front and Verajao can use all the help he can get. The downside is that makes the Fakers even more lottery bound, with more ping pong balls and gives them financial flexibility as well.

Deng will fill Cavs need for a good SF, and also would help them quite a bit in making the playoffs. Don"t like that it makes another East team, the Bulls, more likely to tank, though.

Agreed on Kyrie. I take it you want to see the Celts in the lottery? Me and Tommy Heinsohn don't.

I think you and Ainge do. Looks like you win

+1 for reading between the lines (and the good-nature of your post), although I have had mixed emotions about making the playoffs.

This last loss to the Hawks pushed me over the edge, though. It just underscored for me just how many deficiencies our team has.

It was a disheartening loss on so many levels. Up 18 against a team without their best player and virtually no frontcourt except for Milsap. The inexperience of our coach and his failure to both exploit our frontcourt advantage and to manage the game/substitutions effectively as well as the lack of leadership of our own players cost us a game against a team that we especially want to lose this season. That game had to give the Hawks bigtime confidence. Not good.

Add to that the fact that we're facing a brutal January kinda cinched the lottery desire for me.

However, my opinion is fluid, and anything near a .500 record in January and/or a total Hawks collapse (which, I think is very possible) could change my mind and possibly Danny's?

The Eastern Conference this year is so bad though.

My mentality is taking it one game at a time.

Yeah, that Hawks loss yesterday was rough, especially with the Hawks being without Al Horford. 

That's why I desperately want to see the Celts acquire a big man. Someone to box out on Paul Millsap who buried the Celts yesterday.