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Re: Andrew Bynum suspended for conduct detrimental to the team
« Reply #60 on: December 29, 2013, 09:10:46 AM »

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I'm betting it has way more to do with Mike Brown and the staff rather than basketball. Jarret Jack has a good inside comment...

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Bynum’s career has had its share of controversies, including reports that he does not like basketball. In spite of this, Jarrett Jack didn’t see signs of distaste for the game. “I’ve never gotten that vibe from him,” Jack said. “Just watching him over the course of the season, tremendous work ethic, trying to work himself back into game shape, always in the weight room working on his game by himself. That was kind of the mark for me, was him just showing he wanted to be here, wanted to be back, and get back to as close to the playing shape he used to be in that everybody was used to when he was playing with the Lakers.” HoopsWorld

He wants out of Cleveland and this is how he does it. He'll play if he thinks the team can win.
Dunno if he'd be any good on any team other than a true contender. He'd be a good body for Western teams to go to war with. Spurs should put him with Duncan and Parker and the veterans. Popovich would straighten him out and he'd have motivation to play.

When it hurts to play basketball, and you realize your coach and organization just completely suck, there's no motivation for you to ice bag those knees for 4 hours and get it drained every 5th day. He's a punk but I can understand why he's trying to work his way of that team.
Poor Cavs.
If this is the case he should have just signed with a team that he wanted to play for to begin with.  It's ridiculous to pull this stuff 2 months into the first season with the team that he chose.  And the team would be better if Bynum was producing.

Re: Andrew Bynum suspended for conduct detrimental to the team
« Reply #61 on: December 29, 2013, 11:32:33 AM »

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If he wanted to play for a winner then why in the world did he pick the Cavs? Or was it because no other team would give him a chance? If he's not a fan of basketball then why in the world couldn't he have quit before helping the Lakers win two more rings.
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Re: Andrew Bynum suspended for conduct detrimental to the team
« Reply #62 on: December 29, 2013, 12:05:02 PM »

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He is a bit anti social acting ,  not a team player,  weak  ties to any team.....he plays totally for the money


Re: Andrew Bynum suspended for conduct detrimental to the team
« Reply #63 on: December 31, 2013, 10:58:29 AM »

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The Lakers and Cavaliers have discussed a trade that would involve Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum.

In the current incarnation of this rumor, the Lakers would waive Bynum upon acquiring him, thus saving more than $20 million in salaries and luxury taxes

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Re: Andrew Bynum suspended for conduct detrimental to the team
« Reply #64 on: December 31, 2013, 11:20:13 AM »

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The Lakers and Cavaliers have discussed a trade that would involve Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum.

In the current incarnation of this rumor, the Lakers would waive Bynum upon acquiring him, thus saving more than $20 million in salaries and luxury taxes

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This would be hilarious.
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Re: Andrew Bynum suspended for conduct detrimental to the team
« Reply #65 on: December 31, 2013, 11:24:00 AM »

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The Lakers and Cavaliers have discussed a trade that would involve Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum.

In the current incarnation of this rumor, the Lakers would waive Bynum upon acquiring him, thus saving more than $20 million in salaries and luxury taxes

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I don't understand the salary cap in general so maybe someone can tell me if waiving Bynum after a trade would add a lot to the lakers salary cap?  I understand the luxury tax savings but that doesn't always mean it can be spent on another player.  Does it in this case?

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« Reply #66 on: December 31, 2013, 11:28:03 AM »

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The Lakers and Cavaliers have discussed a trade that would involve Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum.

In the current incarnation of this rumor, the Lakers would waive Bynum upon acquiring him, thus saving more than $20 million in salaries and luxury taxes

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I don't understand the salary cap in general so maybe someone can tell me if waiving Bynum after a trade would add a lot to the lakers salary cap?  I understand the luxury tax savings but that doesn't always mean it can be spent on another player.  Does it in this case?
Bynum is on a 12 million dollar deal. But if waived by Jan. 7th he's only paid 6 million dollars. Most of that 6 million will have already been paid by the Cavs.

So if the Lakers send 19 million Pau for 12 million Bynum plus filler of 4 million or so and then waive Bynum. They'll save 6+ million in salary and another 6+ million in luxury tax. If they're out of the luxury tax they'd actually receive a luxury payment from the other taxpayers too.

Re: Andrew Bynum suspended for conduct detrimental to the team
« Reply #67 on: December 31, 2013, 11:29:47 AM »

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The Lakers and Cavaliers have discussed a trade that would involve Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum.

In the current incarnation of this rumor, the Lakers would waive Bynum upon acquiring him, thus saving more than $20 million in salaries and luxury taxes

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a question...if either team were to acquire bynum and then waive him, would any time who then picks up bynum off waivers be responsible for the remaining $6 million or so on his salary?

how much would it cost a team (such as our beloved celtics) to pick him up off waivers?
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Re: Andrew Bynum suspended for conduct detrimental to the team
« Reply #68 on: December 31, 2013, 11:33:55 AM »

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The Lakers and Cavaliers have discussed a trade that would involve Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum.

In the current incarnation of this rumor, the Lakers would waive Bynum upon acquiring him, thus saving more than $20 million in salaries and luxury taxes

Espn

I don't understand the salary cap in general so maybe someone can tell me if waiving Bynum after a trade would add a lot to the lakers salary cap?  I understand the luxury tax savings but that doesn't always mean it can be spent on another player.  Does it in this case?
Bynum is on a 12 million dollar deal. But if waived by Jan. 7th he's only paid 6 million dollars. Most of that 6 million will have already been paid by the Cavs.

So if the Lakers send 19 million Pau for 12 million Bynum plus filler of 4 million or so and then waive Bynum. They'll save 6+ million in salary and another 6+ million in luxury tax. If they're out of the luxury tax they'd actually receive a luxury payment from the other taxpayers too.

So does that 6 million in luxury tax savings also open up some cap space or is it a pure luxury tax saving and not able to be spent on free agents?

Re: Andrew Bynum suspended for conduct detrimental to the team
« Reply #69 on: December 31, 2013, 11:35:15 AM »

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The Lakers and Cavaliers have discussed a trade that would involve Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum.

In the current incarnation of this rumor, the Lakers would waive Bynum upon acquiring him, thus saving more than $20 million in salaries and luxury taxes

Espn

a question...if either team were to acquire bynum and then waive him, would any time who then picks up bynum off waivers be responsible for the remaining $6 million or so on his salary?

how much would it cost a team (such as our beloved celtics) to pick him up off waivers?

The team picking him up would have to be able to fit his entire contract ($12+ million) under their cap or into a trade exception.  His new team would be responsible for paying him any remaining amount due on his contract, including the guaranteed $6 million (assuming he is claimed on waivers after January 7).  The entire $12+ million contract would count for purposes of the luxury tax (again, assuming he was picked up prior to January 7, and wasn't re-waived before then).


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Re: Andrew Bynum suspended for conduct detrimental to the team
« Reply #70 on: December 31, 2013, 11:35:18 AM »

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The Lakers and Cavaliers have discussed a trade that would involve Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum.

In the current incarnation of this rumor, the Lakers would waive Bynum upon acquiring him, thus saving more than $20 million in salaries and luxury taxes

Espn

I don't understand the salary cap in general so maybe someone can tell me if waiving Bynum after a trade would add a lot to the lakers salary cap?  I understand the luxury tax savings but that doesn't always mean it can be spent on another player.  Does it in this case?
Bynum is on a 12 million dollar deal. But if waived by Jan. 7th he's only paid 6 million dollars. Most of that 6 million will have already been paid by the Cavs.

So if the Lakers send 19 million Pau for 12 million Bynum plus filler of 4 million or so and then waive Bynum. They'll save 6+ million in salary and another 6+ million in luxury tax. If they're out of the luxury tax they'd actually receive a luxury payment from the other taxpayers too.

So does that 6 million in luxury tax savings also open up some cap space or is it a pure luxury tax saving and not able to be spent on free agents?
The first 6 million is "cap" savings, but they'll still be hugely over the salary cap. So no it won't open up flexibility for this current year.

It doesn't add to space next year either, as they could just waived Pau's rights anyways. It does reset their repeater tax clock though, which will help their future flexibility.

Re: Andrew Bynum suspended for conduct detrimental to the team
« Reply #71 on: December 31, 2013, 11:36:42 AM »

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The Lakers and Cavaliers have discussed a trade that would involve Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum.

In the current incarnation of this rumor, the Lakers would waive Bynum upon acquiring him, thus saving more than $20 million in salaries and luxury taxes

Espn

I don't understand the salary cap in general so maybe someone can tell me if waiving Bynum after a trade would add a lot to the lakers salary cap?  I understand the luxury tax savings but that doesn't always mean it can be spent on another player.  Does it in this case?
Bynum is on a 12 million dollar deal. But if waived by Jan. 7th he's only paid 6 million dollars. Most of that 6 million will have already been paid by the Cavs.

So if the Lakers send 19 million Pau for 12 million Bynum plus filler of 4 million or so and then waive Bynum. They'll save 6+ million in salary and another 6+ million in luxury tax. If they're out of the luxury tax they'd actually receive a luxury payment from the other taxpayers too.

So does that 6 million in luxury tax savings also open up some cap space or is it a pure luxury tax saving and not able to be spent on free agents?

It's complicated, but the Lakers are already over the salary cap, and would still be over the cap even if Bynum was waived.


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Re: Andrew Bynum suspended for conduct detrimental to the team
« Reply #72 on: December 31, 2013, 11:49:49 AM »

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Makes sense for the Lakers - get out of the tax, embrace the lottery, maybe get a small throw-in asset for Pau before he leaves in free agency.

Cleveland with Pau would be interesting.  Definitely an upgrade on what Bynum was giving them, but would he be in their long-term plans or would it just be a very expensive half-year rental to give the younger Cavs a better chance at getting a taste of the playoffs? I'm inclined to believe the latter.
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