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Quote from: Shamrocker on December 28, 2013, 03:22:50 PMQuote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:20:42 PMQuote from: Shamrocker on December 28, 2013, 03:14:49 PMQuote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:12:38 PMQuote from: hwangjini_1 on December 28, 2013, 03:10:38 PMQuote from: Shamrocker on December 28, 2013, 03:05:28 PMQuote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:02:14 PMQuote from: satch on December 28, 2013, 02:59:32 PMC's have not been the same since KO return from ankle injury. No chemistry and he ....can't play.Just like Bradley couldn't play.Yup! Just like JJJ and JR Giddens and Billy Walker couldn't play...ohh wait those examples don't help the KO won't be a bust argument. SorryI believe the point is NOT that olly won't be a bust. But rather that it is way to soon to pass judgements such as he will be a bust. Yes, the point is nuanced, but worth understanding.Exactly.Remember, KO was looked at as a solid pick by other GMs and even other players from his draft class.If he doesn't pan out, then he doesn't pan out. But have some patience.I think the sample size is sufficient, sorry. He'll be playing in Europe in two years.30 games into a rookie season, 19 of which he's played in, is a sufficient sample size? In the NBA? Can't say I agree but to each their own.After Fab's first 30 games I think we all realized he couldn't play. Same with JJJ. Yeah, 30 games is enough to form a reasoned opinion. KO has given us no reason for optimism.It took about 3 minutes watching Fab.
Quote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:20:42 PMQuote from: Shamrocker on December 28, 2013, 03:14:49 PMQuote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:12:38 PMQuote from: hwangjini_1 on December 28, 2013, 03:10:38 PMQuote from: Shamrocker on December 28, 2013, 03:05:28 PMQuote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:02:14 PMQuote from: satch on December 28, 2013, 02:59:32 PMC's have not been the same since KO return from ankle injury. No chemistry and he ....can't play.Just like Bradley couldn't play.Yup! Just like JJJ and JR Giddens and Billy Walker couldn't play...ohh wait those examples don't help the KO won't be a bust argument. SorryI believe the point is NOT that olly won't be a bust. But rather that it is way to soon to pass judgements such as he will be a bust. Yes, the point is nuanced, but worth understanding.Exactly.Remember, KO was looked at as a solid pick by other GMs and even other players from his draft class.If he doesn't pan out, then he doesn't pan out. But have some patience.I think the sample size is sufficient, sorry. He'll be playing in Europe in two years.30 games into a rookie season, 19 of which he's played in, is a sufficient sample size? In the NBA? Can't say I agree but to each their own.After Fab's first 30 games I think we all realized he couldn't play. Same with JJJ. Yeah, 30 games is enough to form a reasoned opinion. KO has given us no reason for optimism.
Quote from: Shamrocker on December 28, 2013, 03:14:49 PMQuote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:12:38 PMQuote from: hwangjini_1 on December 28, 2013, 03:10:38 PMQuote from: Shamrocker on December 28, 2013, 03:05:28 PMQuote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:02:14 PMQuote from: satch on December 28, 2013, 02:59:32 PMC's have not been the same since KO return from ankle injury. No chemistry and he ....can't play.Just like Bradley couldn't play.Yup! Just like JJJ and JR Giddens and Billy Walker couldn't play...ohh wait those examples don't help the KO won't be a bust argument. SorryI believe the point is NOT that olly won't be a bust. But rather that it is way to soon to pass judgements such as he will be a bust. Yes, the point is nuanced, but worth understanding.Exactly.Remember, KO was looked at as a solid pick by other GMs and even other players from his draft class.If he doesn't pan out, then he doesn't pan out. But have some patience.I think the sample size is sufficient, sorry. He'll be playing in Europe in two years.30 games into a rookie season, 19 of which he's played in, is a sufficient sample size? In the NBA? Can't say I agree but to each their own.
Quote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:12:38 PMQuote from: hwangjini_1 on December 28, 2013, 03:10:38 PMQuote from: Shamrocker on December 28, 2013, 03:05:28 PMQuote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:02:14 PMQuote from: satch on December 28, 2013, 02:59:32 PMC's have not been the same since KO return from ankle injury. No chemistry and he ....can't play.Just like Bradley couldn't play.Yup! Just like JJJ and JR Giddens and Billy Walker couldn't play...ohh wait those examples don't help the KO won't be a bust argument. SorryI believe the point is NOT that olly won't be a bust. But rather that it is way to soon to pass judgements such as he will be a bust. Yes, the point is nuanced, but worth understanding.Exactly.Remember, KO was looked at as a solid pick by other GMs and even other players from his draft class.If he doesn't pan out, then he doesn't pan out. But have some patience.I think the sample size is sufficient, sorry. He'll be playing in Europe in two years.
Quote from: hwangjini_1 on December 28, 2013, 03:10:38 PMQuote from: Shamrocker on December 28, 2013, 03:05:28 PMQuote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:02:14 PMQuote from: satch on December 28, 2013, 02:59:32 PMC's have not been the same since KO return from ankle injury. No chemistry and he ....can't play.Just like Bradley couldn't play.Yup! Just like JJJ and JR Giddens and Billy Walker couldn't play...ohh wait those examples don't help the KO won't be a bust argument. SorryI believe the point is NOT that olly won't be a bust. But rather that it is way to soon to pass judgements such as he will be a bust. Yes, the point is nuanced, but worth understanding.Exactly.Remember, KO was looked at as a solid pick by other GMs and even other players from his draft class.If he doesn't pan out, then he doesn't pan out. But have some patience.
Quote from: Shamrocker on December 28, 2013, 03:05:28 PMQuote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:02:14 PMQuote from: satch on December 28, 2013, 02:59:32 PMC's have not been the same since KO return from ankle injury. No chemistry and he ....can't play.Just like Bradley couldn't play.Yup! Just like JJJ and JR Giddens and Billy Walker couldn't play...ohh wait those examples don't help the KO won't be a bust argument. SorryI believe the point is NOT that olly won't be a bust. But rather that it is way to soon to pass judgements such as he will be a bust. Yes, the point is nuanced, but worth understanding.
Quote from: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2013, 03:02:14 PMQuote from: satch on December 28, 2013, 02:59:32 PMC's have not been the same since KO return from ankle injury. No chemistry and he ....can't play.Just like Bradley couldn't play.Yup! Just like JJJ and JR Giddens and Billy Walker couldn't play...ohh wait those examples don't help the KO won't be a bust argument. Sorry
Quote from: satch on December 28, 2013, 02:59:32 PMC's have not been the same since KO return from ankle injury. No chemistry and he ....can't play.Just like Bradley couldn't play.
C's have not been the same since KO return from ankle injury. No chemistry and he ....can't play.
wow.. Cleveland's coach is a joke. I can't believe some of the decisions they have made this game... and their offense is complete garbage. They play hero ball the entire game.
Too many bone head plays......Bass zero , then hero.....Bradley had Hump standing alone under the bucket.....geesse........
I thought Klynyk looked pretty good in his stint in the first half, not so much the second. He'll be o.k. He's only played twenty NBA games so far.
Quote from: Celtics18 on December 28, 2013, 03:29:57 PMI thought Klynyk looked pretty good in his stint in the first half, not so much the second. He'll be o.k. He's only played twenty NBA games so far. are you serious??