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How To Fix The Tanking Issue in NBA
« on: December 22, 2013, 10:43:50 PM »

Offline BringToughnessBack

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Here is my idea

The teams 1-13 Get 30 balls, Teams 14-30 each get 20 balls.

Starting with the first pick, one ball is taken, they get first pick. That winners balls get removed and the next slot is picked, so on and so forth to last pick.

A playoff team has a 2.7% chance of winning the first pick even if they finish with best record and the bad teams have a 4.1% chance.Nobody is tanking with that system.

Another version is you could give worst to first that amount of balls, so worst gets 30, 2nd gets 29 all the way down to 1.....Still be significantly less tanking with that format.

 

Re: How To Fix The Tanking Issue in NBA
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2013, 11:01:41 PM »

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I don't think tanking is an issue in the NBA.

Assuming I am wrong and continuing the argument, there is too large a talent discrepancy between the team with the best record and the team with the worst record to allow that system to take place.

What would happen if the Spurs or the Cavs happened to receive a top pick in 2007 and got Durant, there would be huge talent discrepancies and ridiculously long dynasties in the NBA. Also does that system apply for just the top pick or for all the picks down the line.

The lottery system may not be perfect but it promotes parity in the NBA. It's also, clearly, simply one way of rebuilding a team. Countless examples of bad draft picks come to mind year after year after year. Winning the lottery is no guarantee your team is better, and if you choose to tank you could continue to suck for years to come.

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Re: How To Fix The Tanking Issue in NBA
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2013, 11:21:39 PM »

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I don't think tanking is an issue in the NBA.

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Re: How To Fix The Tanking Issue in NBA
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2013, 12:11:09 AM »

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I don't think tanking is an issue in the NBA.

Assuming I am wrong and continuing the argument, there is too large a talent discrepancy between the team with the best record and the team with the worst record to allow that system to take place.

What would happen if the Spurs or the Cavs happened to receive a top pick in 2007 and got Durant, there would be huge talent discrepancies and ridiculously long dynasties in the NBA. Also does that system apply for just the top pick or for all the picks down the line.

The lottery system may not be perfect but it promotes parity in the NBA. It's also, clearly, simply one way of rebuilding a team. Countless examples of bad draft picks come to mind year after year after year. Winning the lottery is no guarantee your team is better, and if you choose to tank you could continue to suck for years to come.

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Re: How To Fix The Tanking Issue in NBA
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2013, 02:00:57 AM »

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sometimes its hard to tell when a team is tanking and when a team is just managed poorly. a lot of people mention charlotte as being a pro tanker but i honestly think they just made a collection of poor moves. detroit was the same after their championship squad was broken up. the celtics squad was managed poorly as well for quite a while. another point is how the league is changing. it is a superstar driven league where you need top talent to truly be a contender and players are more frequently trying to partner up. not that this is an example of buds trying to team up but kg never would of came to the celtics if ainge didnt acquire ray allen first. we have rondo, we need to swing for another equally talented player to hopefully influence other talent into wanting to come to boston.
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« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2013, 06:44:46 AM »

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  I think it should be heavily weighted towards the bottom teams but based on some kind of average of the last 3 seasons, something like 40% on the current season and 30% of the previous 2. That way good teams that have a bad year won't snag a top pick and losing an extra 5-10 games in a season won't make a huge difference.

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« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2013, 08:11:47 AM »

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Re: How To Fix The Tanking Issue in NBA
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2013, 08:12:33 AM »

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  I think it should be heavily weighted towards the bottom teams but based on some kind of average of the last 3 seasons, something like 40% on the current season and 30% of the previous 2. That way good teams that have a bad year won't snag a top pick and losing an extra 5-10 games in a season won't make a huge difference.

Sounds like a better system

The problem ......I see ....is teams like the Magic and Cavs get good picks , but the. Best picks or future star talent seems to disappear to the western clubs .

Complaint s about the east being weak ....is a function of eastern clubs not retaining  and building on their talent.

I just get tired of seeing the top picks year after year going to the same four or five teams and they never contend or do anything ,  then the Lakers come along and have their pick of stars from theses clubs .    It's a never ending cycle
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Re: How To Fix The Tanking Issue in NBA
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2013, 08:26:18 AM »

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It is so hard to rebuild trough draft. You would have to have 4-6 first round picks two years in a row, and get 2 all stars out of them. Tanking is not the issue IMO cause it is not the solution to a certain teams struggle, otherwise every team not named Indy, Miami and OKC(a few more, but you get the idea) would do so.
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« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2013, 08:53:26 AM »

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  I think it should be heavily weighted towards the bottom teams but based on some kind of average of the last 3 seasons, something like 40% on the current season and 30% of the previous 2. That way good teams that have a bad year won't snag a top pick and losing an extra 5-10 games in a season won't make a huge difference.

That's a helluva nice idea, actually.  Even if it was just the two previous seasons - an average of the team's rankings in those two seasons.  I'd say two seasons instead of three because so much can change over the course of three seasons, and I'm not sure you'd need to; tanking for two seasons wouldn't be something any team would want to do.

There's still a natural incentive for teams to not tank; Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ty basketball leads to Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ty ticket sales and no merchandise being sold.  It's just a matter of getting the balance right between incentives - the positive incentive of getting a good pick versus the negative incentive of not making any money that year.  The current system isn't terrible, but a two-year moving average; I like that!