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Re: Daryl Morey is trolling Asik on twitter
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2013, 07:27:28 PM »

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Why is Bogut your example?  Bogut is better than Asik at basically everything.

I call BS on this Bogut can't defend nor is he as good as a rebounder.    Maybe this year with Asik benched but compare them last year and his boards are inferior.  He also is a better defender than Asik.  Bogut is the better shooter I grant you that.
As good of a rebounder, Superior offensive player... most stats point to Bogut being a better defender.  Top 7 defensive rating.  Asik doesn't crack the top 100.

Much ado about nothin...

Omer Asik aint walkin through that door.


Re: Daryl Morey is trolling Asik on twitter
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2013, 08:18:52 PM »

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context be [dang]ed... that's hilarious.  Really fits into the perception of Morey as some guy who is trying to create a "star' asset out of an overpaid role player.
Asik is not overpaid. Want to see an overpaid center, check out Andrew Bogut.
Why is Bogut your example?  Bogut is better than Asik at basically everything.
Because Bogut is currently collecting $14 million to be... well, a nice role player for the Warriors. And he's a great example of someone hilariously overpaid for his current level of production. $14 million get you Marc Gasol, Aldridge, or Brook Lopez in today's NBA, not a guy who gives you 8 points and 10 boards in 27 minutes.

The most hilarious part may be that he recently signed an extension which may be fit for Andrew Bogut circa 09-10, except he may not ever be back to that level.
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Re: Daryl Morey is trolling Asik on twitter
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2013, 08:39:01 PM »

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Why is Bogut your example?  Bogut is better than Asik at basically everything.

I call BS on this Bogut can't defend nor is he as good as a rebounder.    Maybe this year with Asik benched but compare them last year and his boards are inferior.  He also is a better defender than Asik.  Bogut is the better shooter I grant you that.
As good of a rebounder, Superior offensive player... most stats point to Bogut being a better defender.  Top 7 defensive rating.  Asik doesn't crack the top 100.

  You might be referring to different numbers but from basketballreference Asik's the better rebounder and his career DRtg is much better than Bogut's.

Re: Daryl Morey is trolling Asik on twitter
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2013, 08:40:14 PM »

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Why is Bogut your example?  Bogut is better than Asik at basically everything.

I call BS on this Bogut can't defend nor is he as good as a rebounder.    Maybe this year with Asik benched but compare them last year and his boards are inferior.  He also is a better defender than Asik.  Bogut is the better shooter I grant you that.
As good of a rebounder, Superior offensive player... most stats point to Bogut being a better defender.  Top 7 defensive rating.  Asik doesn't crack the top 100.

Much ado about nothin...

Omer Asik aint walkin through that door.



He does look good in green though. Sigh

Re: Daryl Morey is trolling Asik on twitter
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2013, 10:04:51 PM »

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context be [dang]ed... that's hilarious.  Really fits into the perception of Morey as some guy who is trying to create a "star' asset out of an overpaid role player.
Asik is not overpaid. Want to see an overpaid center, check out Andrew Bogut.

Must have not seen Andrew Bogut play. When healthy, he's worth every penny of that previous contract and the cotract he extended for.

Controls the boards, defends well, passes well. And for a player who is not a mid range shooter, he plays on the high post well.

Kendrick Perkins is an overpaid Center.
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Re: Daryl Morey is trolling Asik on twitter
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2013, 11:50:22 PM »

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context be [dang]ed... that's hilarious.  Really fits into the perception of Morey as some guy who is trying to create a "star' asset out of an overpaid role player.
Asik is not overpaid. Want to see an overpaid center, check out Andrew Bogut.

Must have not seen Andrew Bogut play. When healthy, he's worth every penny of that previous contract and the cotract he extended for.

Controls the boards, defends well, passes well. And for a player who is not a mid range shooter, he plays on the high post well.

Kendrick Perkins is an overpaid Center.
Yes, except he's not healthy, and he hasn't been for a while. And there's no telling when or whether he will be. But by all means, commit $12 million to him annually, sounds like a great idea.
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Re: Daryl Morey is trolling Asik on twitter
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2013, 12:22:07 AM »

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So far this stunt has garnered 467 all-star votes for Asik. Comparatively, Harden and Howard have 124 combined. LOL

Re: Daryl Morey is trolling Asik on twitter
« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2013, 01:10:45 PM »

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As good of a rebounder, Superior offensive player... most stats point to Bogut being a better defender.  Top 7 defensive rating.  Asik doesn't crack the top 100.

Much ado about nothin...

Omer Asik aint walkin through that door.

Bogut is soft.  Asik is not.   But I agree much do about nothing.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bogutan01.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/asikom01.html

Bogut wins on block and steals, he loses in defensive win shares, rebounding, win shares, personal fouls.  I just don't see him as a better defender.   Bogut has better stats this year because Asik has fell out of favor.  Bogut also plays 72% at PF whereas Asik is 100% at C.

It pointless but look at their careers and tell me Bogut is a better defender. I just don't it aside from blocks and steals.  I always hear about Asik's defense when I think of Bogut I think soft.

Re: Daryl Morey is trolling Asik on twitter
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2013, 01:12:25 PM »

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As good of a rebounder, Superior offensive player... most stats point to Bogut being a better defender.  Top 7 defensive rating.  Asik doesn't crack the top 100.

Much ado about nothin...

Omer Asik aint walkin through that door.

Bogut is soft.  Asik is not.   But I agree much do about nothing.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bogutan01.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/asikom01.html

Bogut wins on block and steals, he loses in defensive win shares, rebounding, win shares, personal fouls.  I just don't see him as a better defender.   Bogut has better stats this year because Asik has fell out of favor.  Bogut also plays 72% at PF whereas Asik is 100% at C.

It pointless but look at their careers and tell me Bogut is a better defender. I just don't it aside from blocks and steals.  I always hear about Asik's defense when I think of Bogut I think soft.

See, I think of David Lee as soft on defense, not Bogut.

Care to explain your reasoning?
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Re: Daryl Morey is trolling Asik on twitter
« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2013, 02:25:40 PM »

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context be [dang]ed... that's hilarious.  Really fits into the perception of Morey as some guy who is trying to create a "star' asset out of an overpaid role player.
Asik is not overpaid. Want to see an overpaid center, check out Andrew Bogut.
Why is Bogut your example?  Bogut is better than Asik at basically everything.
Because Bogut is currently collecting $14 million to be... well, a nice role player for the Warriors. And he's a great example of someone hilariously overpaid for his current level of production. $14 million get you Marc Gasol, Aldridge, or Brook Lopez in today's NBA, not a guy who gives you 8 points and 10 boards in 27 minutes.

The most hilarious part may be that he recently signed an extension which may be fit for Andrew Bogut circa 09-10, except he may not ever be back to that level.

8/10 is not far off from what Tyson Chandler puts up, and he makes the same money. Nobody seems to think he is wildly overpaid.

He could have been a perennial all-star center but injuries derailed him. He got traded to a team that (rightfully) asks him to do limited duties, such as rebound, block shots, and catch lobs. He's doing just that pretty well.

He may be overpaid, but there are many others who are equally if not more so, with much less talent or upside.
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