Rumor: Charlotte has Michael Kidd-Gilchrist "on the table"?

[kozlodoev]

MKG is a much better rebounder than Green has ever been.  He is a better passer.  He is also a more efficient shooter from the field and similar from the line.  This from a 2nd year player in a bad situation.

For a player that's supposedly so great, he's been remarkably horrible.

And Jeff Green has somehow been ok, regardless of how "bad" his situation has been. Let's not try to look for stuff that isn't there.

Also, MKG the efficient shooter is hovering around .300 outside of 3 feet for his career, and has made 2 three-pointers over a season and a quarter.

[Fafnir]

If MKG a better passer he hasn't shown it. He's also not a better shooter than Green. He's better at the rim, but he can't shoot a lick.

Luc Mbah a Moute is his offensive comp right now.

[D.o.s.]

If MKG a better passer he hasn't shown it. He's also not a better shooter than Green. He's better at the rim, but he can't shoot a lick.

Luc Mbah a Moute is his offensive comp right now.

No way. I saw LRMAM drain a corner three against us last  night.


IT WAS REAL.


I WANT TO BELIEVE.

[saltlover]

MKG is a much better rebounder than Green has ever been.  He is a better passer.  He is also a more efficient shooter from the field and similar from the line.  This from a 2nd year player in a bad situation.

I'd trade Green for MKG straight up and wouldn't give it a second thought.  Of course that trade doesn't work financially.  Maybe something like Humphries and Green for MKG and Gordon.  Perhaps send Lee and also get Biyombo or send Bass and get Biyombo and Haywood.

Did you misread one of their stats?  MKG has a lower eFG, lower true shooting pct, lower free throw pct (and it's not close), and is a career 2/14 from 3.  He has a higher 2-point pct, probably because he takes more shots at the rim.  MKG's shooting is so notorious around the league that Courtney Lee was motivated to practice more when he was told his shot looked like MKG's.  It is patently false that MKG is a more efficient shooter than Green.

[Eja117]

I think to get in the discussion for MKG, Green would be the guy to go.  And I would strongly consider it, but would need more than MKG in return.

Green + ?

for

MKG + Biyombo


I'd be interested in figuring something out along those lines.  If the Bobcats are desperate enough . . . .

I don't think the money matches up there at all.

[BleedGreen1989]

MKG is a much better rebounder than Green has ever been.  He is a better passer.  He is also a more efficient shooter from the field and similar from the line.  This from a 2nd year player in a bad situation.

Yeah, most of this, as already pointed out, is simply inaccurate.

[PhoSita]

I think to get in the discussion for MKG, Green would be the guy to go.  And I would strongly consider it, but would need more than MKG in return.

Green + ?

for

MKG + Biyombo


I'd be interested in figuring something out along those lines.  If the Bobcats are desperate enough . . . .

I don't think the money matches up there at all.

Actually, MKG + Biyombo for Green straight up does work.

But I imagine there would be other pieces involved than just those ones.

[rondoallaturca]

Wonder if they're desperate enough that they'd be willing to reunite with Gerald Wallace? We have lots of pieces (Green, Bradley, Bass) that should interest them.

[ssspence]

MKG's trade value is not high right now. No chance Ainge trades Green for him.

Again, all this smells like part of the Asik discussion to me. Asik to Boston with some real pieces from both HOU and CHA, Green to Charlotte, Bass and MKG to Houston.

It's sensible for all parties, and it's clear that Morey has been talking to both Ainge and Jordan.

I have and will continue to maintain that adding Asik to this team makes little sense, unless perhaps there's some other kind of move coming to add a well-rounded high level talent to the mix.

Asik is a great defensive player who's a bit of a dead weight on offense.  It's a win-now move to acquire him.

Fair enough -- the team this arguably makes the least sense for is the Cs.

But, if Ainge disagrees and pursues Asik, I'd rather see him ship out veterans and add young assets (like Jeff Taylor, Greg Smith, T Jones, a pick -- probably some combo of two from this list in the suggested trade), than only send out a Bass or Lee and have to give up pick(s).

[hpantazo]

I think we are going to make some moves in the next week or two, but most people on here will be dissapointed in the moves. I got the sense during the celtics tv broadcast last night that Ainge is looking to cut salary and is willing to use a pick and/or a young player or two to do it. Which means likely getting rid of Wallace and using some of our assets in that deal. They specifically stated we won't trade for Asik unless we move a lot of other players to open up salary and keep us under the luxury tax

[LarBrd33]

Just wondering... if Boston traded Jeff Green in a package for Asik, who would be our starting SF?  Do you think Olynyk could play SF or is he strictly a PF/C?

I could see us looking for a replacement SF.  MKG has elite defensive potential, but it would probably take a lot of assets to get him.

[ssspence]

Just wondering... if Boston traded Jeff Green in a package for Asik, who would be our starting SF?  Do you think Olynyk could play SF or is he strictly a PF/C?

I could see us looking for a replacement SF.  MKG has elite defensive potential, but it would probably take a lot of assets to get him.

If Jeff Green is traded to Charlotte, I'd like to see Jeff Taylor come back. He's been playing behind MKG out of their need to develop Michael based on where they picked him. I think Taylor would flourish in Stevens' system.

This begs the question, would the Cats trade MKG and Taylor if Green was incoming? I think they'd seriously consider it.

[BleedGreen1989]

MKG's trade value is not high right now. No chance Ainge trades Green for him.

Again, all this smells like part of the Asik discussion to me. Asik to Boston with some real pieces from both HOU and CHA, Green to Charlotte, Bass and MKG to Houston.

It's sensible for all parties, and it's clear that Morey has been talking to both Ainge and Jordan.

I have and will continue to maintain that adding Asik to this team makes little sense, unless perhaps there's some other kind of move coming to add a well-rounded high level talent to the mix.

Asik is a great defensive player who's a bit of a dead weight on offense.  It's a win-now move to acquire him.

I disagree.

I mean, I've seen enough of your posts to understand what you want Ainge to do but Asik is only 27 and just entering his prime. He's only played starter minutes last season so he's a "young" 27 in terms of miles on his legs. It's not like Ainge is trading for a 33 year old player.

No reason he can't be our starting center for the next 5 years.

[ssspence]

I think we are going to make some moves in the next week or two, but most people on here will be dissapointed in the moves. I got the sense during the celtics tv broadcast last night that Ainge is looking to cut salary and is willing to use a pick and/or a young player or two to do it. Which means likely getting rid of Wallace and using some of our assets in that deal. They specifically stated we won't trade for Asik unless we move a lot of other players to open up salary and keep us under the luxury tax

The luxury tax part makes no sense. Asik's balloon payment doesn't count against it. If for example the Cs traded Jeff Green for Asik, they'd in fact be farther away from the tax next year, not closer to it.

Sherrod know quite a but less about the NBA than most people on this board.

[Lucky17]

I think we are going to make some moves in the next week or two, but most people on here will be dissapointed in the moves. I got the sense during the celtics tv broadcast last night that Ainge is looking to cut salary and is willing to use a pick and/or a young player or two to do it. Which means likely getting rid of Wallace and using some of our assets in that deal. They specifically stated we won't trade for Asik unless we move a lot of other players to open up salary and keep us under the luxury tax

The luxury tax part makes no sense. Asik's balloon payment doesn't count against it. If for example the Cs traded Jeff Green for Asik, they'd in fact be farther away from the tax next year, not closer to it.

Sherrod know quite a but less about the NBA than most people on this board.

Someone asked me about Asik's contract just yesterday, and I had to admit I wasn't sure about how his contract related to the luxury tax payment.

I know Asik gets paid $15 mil or so in that last year, but the number on the ledger for his team is $8.3 mil or so. And that number also gets figured into the luxury tax computations for his team? This is good to know.