Jordan Crawford has best handles in the NBA

[Roy H.]

Yeah, Irving is probably the best, and Jamal Crawford has always been excellent.

[Kiorrik]

I can't believe I didn't even think of Rondo in response to this.

Rondo, bar none.

[SHAQATTACK]

Crawford is making believers out of a few Celtics fans...me for one ....LoL......

He still is disrespected by other teams and fans ........hard to shake those Wizards  days.

He need to keep a chip on his shoulder  and slay a few more giants .

[BballTim]

  Not that this is the be all and end all, but just to add to the conversation basketballreference is now breaking down turnover by type. It looks like ball-handling turnovers would be the bulk (or all) of the "lost ball" category. Here's a breakdown of minutes played per ball-handling turnover for the players discussed plus a few others (obviously a higher number means fewer turnover, because you go more minutes between turnovers).

Rondo 65
JaCrawford 65
CPaul 53
JoCrawford 51
Irving 35
TParker 42
Deron 45
Westbrook 29
Rose 37
Wall 34

  So I'd say that the Crawfords get a boost from not handling the ball as much as some of the others, Rondo and Paul are the best of the PGs, and Westbrook, ugh.

[SCeltic34]

Rondo, Paul, Irving.  Best handles in the NBA, period.

[incoherent]

Rondo does things with the ball I've never seen before, to go along with thread the needle passes.

[Kiorrik]

  Not that this is the be all and end all, but just to add to the conversation basketballreference is now breaking down turnover by type. It looks like ball-handling turnovers would be the bulk (or all) of the "lost ball" category. Here's a breakdown of minutes played per ball-handling turnover for the players discussed plus a few others (obviously a higher number means fewer turnover, because you go more minutes between turnovers).

Rondo 65
JaCrawford 65
CPaul 53
JoCrawford 51
Irving 35
TParker 42
Deron 45
Westbrook 29
Rose 37
Wall 34

  So I'd say that the Crawfords get a boost from not handling the ball as much as some of the others, Rondo and Paul are the best of the PGs, and Westbrook, ugh.

Faulty logic, but still relevant and interesting numbers.

Faulty because Irving turns it over more, but does way harder stuff than some of the others. Rondo too. But he's just a magician.

[Mencius]

Rondo, Paul, Irving.  Best handles in the NBA, period.

Yeah, I'd say those are the top 3, but Irving is tops as a ball handler in my book.  He's just a magician with that thing.

[tarheelsxxiii]

Irving/Rondo, Paul

[crimson_stallion]

  Not that this is the be all and end all, but just to add to the conversation basketballreference is now breaking down turnover by type. It looks like ball-handling turnovers would be the bulk (or all) of the "lost ball" category. Here's a breakdown of minutes played per ball-handling turnover for the players discussed plus a few others (obviously a higher number means fewer turnover, because you go more minutes between turnovers).

Rondo 65
JaCrawford 65
CPaul 53
JoCrawford 51
Irving 35
TParker 42
Deron 45
Westbrook 29
Rose 37
Wall 34

  So I'd say that the Crawfords get a boost from not handling the ball as much as some of the others, Rondo and Paul are the best of the PGs, and Westbrook, ugh.

Faulty logic, but still relevant and interesting numbers.

Faulty because Irving turns it over more, but does way harder stuff than some of the others. Rondo too. But he's just a magician.

So what you're trying to say is that Irving is a better ball handler, because he is more inclined to try overly fancy moves that he can't pull off, and lose the ball as a result?

Personally I've always believed Rondo is massively underrated with both his ball handling and his speed.  Everybody talks about guys like Derek Rose when it comes to speed and ball handling, but when Rondo is pushing the ball full speed up the court he does some absolutely amazing things with the ball...and you rarely ever see him bounce it out of bounds, off his foot, etc. 

Other guys out there might do fancier things with the ball (Steve Francis style) but in this league you don't get points for showboating.  Doing fancy one-handed behind-your-back dribbles that bounce off your foot and go out of bounds does not win games. 

This is just another skill Rondo has that people overlook.  Everyone talks about his passing, his rebounding, his court vision, his IQ.  Nobody ever talks about his ability to sprint full court, then stop instantaneously (as his defender launches out of control in to the crowd) and then put in the easy, undefended layup.  There is not a single guy in the NBA who I've seen transition from a full-on sprint to a complete stop as quickly as Rondo can...it's absolutely freakish.

[fitzhickey]

Rondo's huge 9 inch hands really help his handling. But it's between either Rondo or Kyrie for me. Rondo can just handle at ridiculous speeds, while Kyrie often makes his defenders look foolish.

JCraw isn't close tbh

[crimson_stallion]

I'd probably say Rondo and Paul.  Both handle the ball incredibly well while rarely creating turovers off the dribble.  Jamal Crawford actually is in that group too.

Just for fun, a little something to make everyone feel all warm and fuzzy!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYa-v3l39So

Watching this makes me sad.  Ironically it's not the 2008 team that I'm going to miss most, it's the teams with Pierce, KG, Ray, Dooling, Marquis, Pietrus that I'm really going to miss.   That team just played so [dang] hard and with so much heart every single night.  No matter how much bad lucky they had with injuries, they just pushed on and on...overachieved beyond words. 

I'll miss the season we had Shaq here too.  The very last time anybody got to see one of the most dominant guys ever to play the game, and in those rare moments when he was healthy he STILL used to dominate players.  Rondo-to-Shaq was just meant to be. 

*sigh*

Gonna be so weird watching Rondo on the court without a Pierce / Ray / KG to recieving the pass.

[BballTim]

  Not that this is the be all and end all, but just to add to the conversation basketballreference is now breaking down turnover by type. It looks like ball-handling turnovers would be the bulk (or all) of the "lost ball" category. Here's a breakdown of minutes played per ball-handling turnover for the players discussed plus a few others (obviously a higher number means fewer turnover, because you go more minutes between turnovers).

Rondo 65
JaCrawford 65
CPaul 53
JoCrawford 51
Irving 35
TParker 42
Deron 45
Westbrook 29
Rose 37
Wall 34

  So I'd say that the Crawfords get a boost from not handling the ball as much as some of the others, Rondo and Paul are the best of the PGs, and Westbrook, ugh.

Faulty logic, but still relevant and interesting numbers.

Faulty because Irving turns it over more, but does way harder stuff than some of the others. Rondo too. But he's just a magician.

  Not faulty logic, faulty typing. I wasn't saying this shows Rondo and CP3 have the best handles, just that they have the fewest ball-handling turnovers among the top pgs (by a fairly large margin in Rondo's case). I will say that Rondo's lack of turnovers are from terrific ball-handling ability though. I don't really watch enough of Irving to comment on why he loses the ball so much. Bad decision making?

[Celtics4ever]

Rondo's huge 9 inch hands really help his handling.

Then why aren't bigs the best dribblers.   I have hands that big or bigger and I was not a good dribbler.  My team mates felt safer with me shooting past halfcourt than dribbling.

[D.o.s.]

  Not that this is the be all and end all, but just to add to the conversation basketballreference is now breaking down turnover by type. It looks like ball-handling turnovers would be the bulk (or all) of the "lost ball" category. Here's a breakdown of minutes played per ball-handling turnover for the players discussed plus a few others (obviously a higher number means fewer turnover, because you go more minutes between turnovers).

Rondo 65
JaCrawford 65
CPaul 53
JoCrawford 51
Irving 35
TParker 42
Deron 45
Westbrook 29
Rose 37
Wall 34

  So I'd say that the Crawfords get a boost from not handling the ball as much as some of the others, Rondo and Paul are the best of the PGs, and Westbrook, ugh.

Faulty logic, but still relevant and interesting numbers.

Faulty because Irving turns it over more, but does way harder stuff than some of the others. Rondo too. But he's just a magician.

  Not faulty logic, faulty typing. I wasn't saying this shows Rondo and CP3 have the best handles, just that they have the fewest ball-handling turnovers among the top pgs (by a fairly large margin in Rondo's case). I will say that Rondo's lack of turnovers are from terrific ball-handling ability though. I don't really watch enough of Irving to comment on why he loses the ball so much. Bad decision making?

Based on the Celtics/Cav's game I'd say that he's suffering from being the only good player on his team and not really being on the same page as the rest of his teammates.

The Cavs are like the worst version of the 10-11 Heat--they stand around and wait while one of their players (Irving or Waiters) tries to make a play.