Oak Hill coach says Melo told him he's recruiting Rondo

[Evantime34]

Wait, so Oak Hill had Rondo, Josh Smith and Carmelo at the same time? Holy crap.

[wdleehi]

No cap space.

This.

If they ever get together, it sure as heck isn't gonna be in NYC.

The Knicks will have cap space the year Rondo is a free agent.

That's probably what lead to the recruiting, I'd bet he's working on all the potential FAs of that class.

But can they wait for that to convince Melo to stay?

[Fafnir]

I'm torn on that wideload. Will Chandler coming back and a second round defeat to the Heat/Pacers be enough to convince him to stay?

If that happens I think he stays because CAA and Dolan empower him so much, and they pay him the most money.

If they struggle and get bounced in the first round after playing basically .500 basketball for the year.....

[wdleehi]

I'm torn on that wideload. Will Chandler coming back and a second round defeat to the Heat/Pacers be enough to convince him to stay?

If that happens I think he stays because CAA and Dolan empower him so much, and they pay him the most money.

If they struggle and get bounced in the first round after playing basically .500 basketball for the year.....

Can they make the playoffs as they currently are? 

[manl_lui]

Wait, so Oak Hill had Rondo, Josh Smith and Carmelo at the same time? Holy crap.

I don't think so, Rondo only played with Smith at Oak Hill. I believe Melo was long gone by then as he was drafted in 03

[Fafnir]

I'm torn on that wideload. Will Chandler coming back and a second round defeat to the Heat/Pacers be enough to convince him to stay?

If that happens I think he stays because CAA and Dolan empower him so much, and they pay him the most money.

If they struggle and get bounced in the first round after playing basically .500 basketball for the year.....

Can they make the playoffs as they currently are?

If Chandler comes back and plays the rest of the year, sure they can.

[TwinTower14]

Knicks will win the division once they get Chandler back...I thought the Nets would turn it around at some point but I am not sure now?  I think there will only be one team from the Atlantic to make the playoffs and that will be the division winner, which will probably be the Knicks...

[ssspence]

No cap space.

This.

If they ever get together, it sure as heck isn't gonna be in NYC.

The Knicks will have cap space the year Rondo is a free agent.

That's probably what lead to the recruiting, I'd bet he's working on all the potential FAs of that class.

Right. The Knicks can't trade for him, but they could sign him in 2015.

Outside possibility if Rondo made it clear he planned to go there anyway that the Cs could trade him at next year's deadline with Wallace, Lee, whatever Cs garbage is left for Amare and whatever assets the Knicks have at that time. But, still tough to imagine that happening considering the Knicks lack thereof, and Wyc's presumed lack of interest in actively ending Rondo to a division rival.

[gpap]

Knicks will win the division once they get Chandler back...I thought the Nets would turn it around at some point but I am not sure now?  I think there will only be one team from the Atlantic to make the playoffs and that will be the division winner, which will probably be the Knicks...

The Celtics say good afternoon.

[bdm860]

While I think some players really understand how the NBA works, I don’t think Melo is one of them

1). LeBron, Wade, Bosh, and Melo all sign extensions in the summer of ’06.  LeBron/Wade/Bosh sign 3 year extensions so they could sign their next deal before the CBA changed (likely for the worse) and so they have flexibility to switch teams (or because they all planned to play together from the start).  Melo went with a 5 year extension.  And it’s not like Melo didn’t know what everybody else was doing:

Wade said he, James and Carmelo Anthony of the Denver Nuggets -- three of the top five picks in the 2003 draft class -- all talked about their extensions and weighed the differences between taking the three-year-with-an-option offer as opposed to the straight five-year pacts they were all eligible to receive.

2). LeBron, Wade, Bosh, and Melo all want to play with other stars.  LeBron, Wade, and Bosh make sure their contracts line up, take less money to make this possible, don't tell their current team their plans, and leave via free agency.  Melo on the other hand asks to be traded (so his new team has to give up assets to get him) and signs a max extension limiting room to sign other stars, but then still says he wants to play with guys like Dwight Howard and Chris Paul on the Knicks.  Think he would take less money or line up his contract to make that happen?

3).  Melo wants to win, so he forces a trade to a worse team, with fewer assets, with no cap space, and that has to give up more assets just to get him.

Ya so whenever I hear Carmelo talking about recruiting  guys like Chris Paul, Dwight Howard, Rajon Rondo, etc. so they can play together on the Knicks, I just shake my head and think this guy doesn’t get it.

Maybe he can be GM of the Knicks or Nets after he's done playing.  Apparently has the right mindset for it. 

[slamtheking]

While I think some players really understand how the NBA works, I don’t think Melo is one of them

whenever I hear Carmelo talking about recruiting  guys like Chris Paul, Dwight Howard, Rajon Rondo, etc. so they can play together on the Knicks, I just shake my head and think this guy doesn’t get it.

Maybe he can be GM of the Knicks or Nets after he's done playing.  Apparently has the right mindset for it. 

ooh, touche and TP for you

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Yea, so it isn't happening b/c isn't this illegal per NBA rules? I thought you can't talk to players about stuff like this when they are under contract. Remember the fuss about it when Bosh and them dudes got together and the Cavs tried to get charges for collusion or something (lol you know I don't know legal mambo jumbo)? Cavs had no proof but Celtics have this dude?

[D.o.s.]

Yea, so it isn't happening b/c isn't this illegal per NBA rules? I thought you can't talk to players about stuff like this when they are under contract. Remember the fuss about it when Bosh and them dudes got together and the Cavs tried to get charges for collusion or something (lol you know I don't know legal mambo jumbo)? Cavs had no proof but Celtics have this dude?

Essentially: the league has no way to prevent players talking to players, but teams can't appear to publicly influence players before the opening of free agency--like how Houston and Atlanta got fined for putting CP3 and Dwight in their preseason marketing stuff.

[action781]

I said this on here a little while ago I actually think Rondo and Melo are the perfect match for each other.  He would get Melo so many easy shots and make his life a lot easier.  Rondo doesn't mind not scoring and I think Melo would average over 30 pts a game with Rondo as his PG...I know it would never happen but Rondo / Melo would be a nice one / two punch for building a team...

The only issue with that is that Rondo sets players up for easy shots who move without the ball.  Melo doesn't want to move without the ball, he wants the ball in his hands.

I think the way to build around Carmelo is with defense.  One other player who can create offense and the rest defense.  I think Conley, Shumpert, Carmelo, Taj Gibson, Tyson Chandler is a contending team that's not stacked with all stars with a bench like Prigioni, JR Smith, Brandon Bass, Kosta Koufos.

[action781]

No cap space.

This.

If they ever get together, it sure as heck isn't gonna be in NYC.

The Knicks will have cap space the year Rondo is a free agent.

That's probably what lead to the recruiting, I'd bet he's working on all the potential FAs of that class.

They have $12M committed to JR Smith, Felton, Shumpert, Prigioni, but would imaginably give Carmelo $20M, which brings them up to $32.  With that current roster, I don't see any way they pursue Rondo with that $28M (minus cap holds) in cap space rather than getting a center and/or PF.  Let me correct myself... I do see a way of it happening... but I would genuinely feel bad for NYK fans if it did happen.