Trade to keep us in the bottom 10 teams? Bass for T.Robinson+2nd rounder.

[chambers]

Boston sends:
Brandon Bass

Portland sends:
Thomas Robinson
Victor claver
2014 2nd round pick.


We are terrible, but so is the East. I'm not sure any of us predicted that the East would be this bad overall. It's mainly due to injuries, new lineups and new coaches, and it will probably improve. That doesn't mean we can't help our 2014 draft chances AND have our young develop more. Currently Sully is only getting 25 minutes a game. We need that up over 30 minutes a game. Bass has been great- but he's taking time away from our youngsters and he's helping us win a little too much. He also deserves to play for a real playoff team because he's a workhorse and perfect role player.

The Blazers are on a great run. Problem is they have one of the worst benches in the NBA. Coach doesn't trust them and they're basically using Mo Williams and Jay Freeland- even the rookie Meyers Leonard is barely seeing the court. (well he sucks for the most part).
They need help quickly, and they are probably the most perfect team for Bass- they are a jumpshooting team that drives and kicks out to shooters, and runs pick and pop situations as a large part of their offense.


Really I can't think of a more perfect team for good old Brandon Bizass.

They recently acquired Thomas Robinson from whoever had him last- the poor kid is getting tossed around the NBA like beachball at an All Star game. He can slot in as a full time back up power forward to Sully and Olynyk. He'd also stop Humphries from getting minutes if Bass is traded.
Victor Calver is a salary filler and obviously we want their 2nd round pick- which I think they'll give up for a guy like Bass.
If they insist we could give them Brooks as well so ensure they give us the 2nd round pick.

Thoughts? Does it do the job of getting us some young 'upside' whilst giving our current young guys more minutes, and moves Bass's contract and talent to a better situation?

[chambers]

oops

[EvilEmpire]

Don't think Portland would want BB with Aldridge playing lights out and making 15mil. But I want to get T Robinson and M Leonard from them. Both are rotting away on their deep bench. With Crawford playing so well I would be willing to part with Bradley and whatever to make it happen.

[aporel#18]

Robinson plus Claver, and a 2nd round pick? Sign me in.

I like Bass, but if Portland is willing to make that trade, it makes sense for the Cs. TP.

[BleedGreen1989]

While fans are of course not always an indication of what their FO will do, most Portland fans I've chatted with would be willing to give up Meyers Leonard/filler for Bass.

Meyers has been racking up DNP-CD's and has people whispering the dreaded "B" word. He looks entirely lost out there on both ends of the court and is seeing very few minutes. He could become some kind of project for Brad Stevens. My source (aka me) would almost guarantee he is moved this season for some "win now" help.

I think Brandon Bass would be a perfect fit and could really boost what has been a very average defensive team and he could play with LMA or Lopez.

I have no interest in T-Rob ever becoming a competent NBA player so I would pass on your deal.

[BballTim]

While fans are of course not always an indication of what their FO will do, most Portland fans I've chatted with would be willing to give up Meyers Leonard/filler for Bass.

Meyers has been racking up DNP-CD's and has people whispering the dreaded "B" word. He looks entirely lost out there on both ends of the court and is seeing very few minutes. He could become some kind of project for Brad Stevens. My source (aka me) would almost guarantee he is moved this season for some "win now" help.

I think Brandon Bass would be a perfect fit and could really boost what has been a very average defensive team and he could play with LMA or Lopez.

I have no interest in T-Rob ever becoming a competent NBA player so I would pass on your deal.

  It's possible that Robinson would be the filler in your trade.

[BleedGreen1989]

While fans are of course not always an indication of what their FO will do, most Portland fans I've chatted with would be willing to give up Meyers Leonard/filler for Bass.

Meyers has been racking up DNP-CD's and has people whispering the dreaded "B" word. He looks entirely lost out there on both ends of the court and is seeing very few minutes. He could become some kind of project for Brad Stevens. My source (aka me) would almost guarantee he is moved this season for some "win now" help.

I think Brandon Bass would be a perfect fit and could really boost what has been a very average defensive team and he could play with LMA or Lopez.

I have no interest in T-Rob ever becoming a competent NBA player so I would pass on your deal.

  It's possible that Robinson would be the filler in your trade.

Yeah, that's a good point. I think that's actually how it was discussed.

[BballTim]

Boston sends:
Brandon Bass

Portland sends:
Thomas Robinson
Victor claver
2014 2nd round pick.


We are terrible, but so is the East. I'm not sure any of us predicted that the East would be this bad overall. It's mainly due to injuries, new lineups and new coaches, and it will probably improve. That doesn't mean we can't help our 2014 draft chances AND have our young develop more. Currently Sully is only getting 25 minutes a game. We need that up over 30 minutes a game. Bass has been great- but he's taking time away from our youngsters and he's helping us win a little too much. He also deserves to play for a real playoff team because he's a workhorse and perfect role player.

The Blazers are on a great run. Problem is they have one of the worst benches in the NBA. Coach doesn't trust them and they're basically using Mo Williams and Jay Freeland- even the rookie Meyers Leonard is barely seeing the court. (well he sucks for the most part).
They need help quickly, and they are probably the most perfect team for Bass- they are a jumpshooting team that drives and kicks out to shooters, and runs pick and pop situations as a large part of their offense.


Really I can't think of a more perfect team for good old Brandon Bizass.

They recently acquired Thomas Robinson from whoever had him last- the poor kid is getting tossed around the NBA like beachball at an All Star game. He can slot in as a full time back up power forward to Sully and Olynyk. He'd also stop Humphries from getting minutes if Bass is traded.
Victor Calver is a salary filler and obviously we want their 2nd round pick- which I think they'll give up for a guy like Bass.
If they insist we could give them Brooks as well so ensure they give us the 2nd round pick.

Thoughts? Does it do the job of getting us some young 'upside' whilst giving our current young guys more minutes, and moves Bass's contract and talent to a better situation?

  I'm not sold on trading Bass making us much worse. Sully might get more minutes (although I wouldn't want to overwork him when he's still that close to his back surgery) or Humphries, and if they get the minutes it seems like a wash at worst.

[slamtheking]

Boston sends:
Brandon Bass

Portland sends:
Thomas Robinson
Victor claver
2014 2nd round pick.


We are terrible, but so is the East. I'm not sure any of us predicted that the East would be this bad overall. It's mainly due to injuries, new lineups and new coaches, and it will probably improve. That doesn't mean we can't help our 2014 draft chances AND have our young develop more. Currently Sully is only getting 25 minutes a game. We need that up over 30 minutes a game. Bass has been great- but he's taking time away from our youngsters and he's helping us win a little too much. He also deserves to play for a real playoff team because he's a workhorse and perfect role player.

The Blazers are on a great run. Problem is they have one of the worst benches in the NBA. Coach doesn't trust them and they're basically using Mo Williams and Jay Freeland- even the rookie Meyers Leonard is barely seeing the court. (well he sucks for the most part).
They need help quickly, and they are probably the most perfect team for Bass- they are a jumpshooting team that drives and kicks out to shooters, and runs pick and pop situations as a large part of their offense.


Really I can't think of a more perfect team for good old Brandon Bizass.

They recently acquired Thomas Robinson from whoever had him last- the poor kid is getting tossed around the NBA like beachball at an All Star game. He can slot in as a full time back up power forward to Sully and Olynyk. He'd also stop Humphries from getting minutes if Bass is traded.
Victor Calver is a salary filler and obviously we want their 2nd round pick- which I think they'll give up for a guy like Bass.
If they insist we could give them Brooks as well so ensure they give us the 2nd round pick.

Thoughts? Does it do the job of getting us some young 'upside' whilst giving our current young guys more minutes, and moves Bass's contract and talent to a better situation?

  I'm not sold on trading Bass making us much worse. Sully might get more minutes (although I wouldn't want to overwork him when he's still that close to his back surgery) or Humphries, and if they get the minutes it seems like a wash at worst.

have to agree with probably not seeing much dropoff if Bass is dealt since those minutes would most likely go to Sully and Hump.  We'd get more rebounds in that case and they both shoot as well as Bass.  If KO got those minutes instead, it could go either way depending on how much KO improved with that PT.  I don't think anyone coming from Portland would see much time unless we start seeing frontcourt injuries. 

[pokeKingCurtis]

For those who don't realize, Bass has actually made himself a very attractive trade chip. His defense is apparently elite (top 5 points per possession apparently) and his mid-range game is hot as ever.

While fans are of course not always an indication of what their FO will do, most Portland fans I've chatted with would be willing to give up Meyers Leonard/filler for Bass.

Meyers has been racking up DNP-CD's and has people whispering the dreaded "B" word. He looks entirely lost out there on both ends of the court and is seeing very few minutes. He could become some kind of project for Brad Stevens. My source (aka me) would almost guarantee he is moved this season for some "win now" help.

I think Brandon Bass would be a perfect fit and could really boost what has been a very average defensive team and he could play with LMA or Lopez.

I have no interest in T-Rob ever becoming a competent NBA player so I would pass on your deal.

Wow. I was gonna say maybe Bass + 1st pick would land us Leonard + filler (maybe a low risk-medium reward prospect?).

And I agree with the sentiment that T-Rob alone won't cut it for Brandon Bass.

[manl_lui]

Don't think Portland would want BB with Aldridge playing lights out and making 15mil. But I want to get T Robinson and M Leonard from them. Both are rotting away on their deep bench. With Crawford playing so well I would be willing to part with Bradley and whatever to make it happen.

I would LOVE to get TRob, but definitely want a 1st rounder in return for Bass. As most of you mentioned, his defense is elite this year and quietly making a presence on the Cs.

[jambr380]

For those who don't realize, Bass has actually made himself a very attractive trade chip. His defense is apparently elite (top 5 points per possession apparently) and his mid-range game is hot as ever.

While fans are of course not always an indication of what their FO will do, most Portland fans I've chatted with would be willing to give up Meyers Leonard/filler for Bass.

Meyers has been racking up DNP-CD's and has people whispering the dreaded "B" word. He looks entirely lost out there on both ends of the court and is seeing very few minutes. He could become some kind of project for Brad Stevens. My source (aka me) would almost guarantee he is moved this season for some "win now" help.

I think Brandon Bass would be a perfect fit and could really boost what has been a very average defensive team and he could play with LMA or Lopez.

I have no interest in T-Rob ever becoming a competent NBA player so I would pass on your deal.

Wow. I was gonna say maybe Bass + 1st pick would land us Leonard + filler (maybe a low risk-medium reward prospect?).

And I agree with the sentiment that T-Rob alone won't cut it for Brandon Bass.

Bass AND a first for Leonard?? I was definitely thinking that Portland would have to add the first, not us. Leonard will be lucky to ever one day be as good as Bass and their first will be pretty low this year. Bass is in his 'prime' and is a perfect player for any team looking to make a run. If I am trading Bass, I am not giving up any picks unless we are obviously upgrading for the future.

[pokeKingCurtis]

For those who don't realize, Bass has actually made himself a very attractive trade chip. His defense is apparently elite (top 5 points per possession apparently) and his mid-range game is hot as ever.

While fans are of course not always an indication of what their FO will do, most Portland fans I've chatted with would be willing to give up Meyers Leonard/filler for Bass.

Meyers has been racking up DNP-CD's and has people whispering the dreaded "B" word. He looks entirely lost out there on both ends of the court and is seeing very few minutes. He could become some kind of project for Brad Stevens. My source (aka me) would almost guarantee he is moved this season for some "win now" help.

I think Brandon Bass would be a perfect fit and could really boost what has been a very average defensive team and he could play with LMA or Lopez.

I have no interest in T-Rob ever becoming a competent NBA player so I would pass on your deal.

Wow. I was gonna say maybe Bass + 1st pick would land us Leonard + filler (maybe a low risk-medium reward prospect?).

And I agree with the sentiment that T-Rob alone won't cut it for Brandon Bass.

Bass AND a first for Leonard?? I was definitely thinking that Portland would have to add the first, not us. Leonard will be lucky to ever one day be as good as Bass and their first will be pretty low this year. Bass is in his 'prime' and is a perfect player for any team looking to make a run. If I am trading Bass, I am not giving up any picks unless we are obviously upgrading for the future.

Well, not following the Blazers, I didn't know he was looking like a bust. Leonard was, after all, a lotto pick from a pretty deep, strong draft.

Bass for Leonard I'd do. Bass for Leonard and a first I'd very much do.

But, Leonard's value is basically pure fan speculation, so who knows. Just like how I* knew Fab Melo was bad but I* didn't think he was going to be straight up waive material.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Boston sends:
Brandon Bass

Portland sends:
Thomas Robinson
Victor claver
2014 2nd round pick.


We are terrible, but so is the East. I'm not sure any of us predicted that the East would be this bad overall. It's mainly due to injuries, new lineups and new coaches, and it will probably improve. That doesn't mean we can't help our 2014 draft chances AND have our young develop more. Currently Sully is only getting 25 minutes a game. We need that up over 30 minutes a game. Bass has been great- but he's taking time away from our youngsters and he's helping us win a little too much. He also deserves to play for a real playoff team because he's a workhorse and perfect role player.

The Blazers are on a great run. Problem is they have one of the worst benches in the NBA. Coach doesn't trust them and they're basically using Mo Williams and Jay Freeland- even the rookie Meyers Leonard is barely seeing the court. (well he sucks for the most part).
They need help quickly, and they are probably the most perfect team for Bass- they are a jumpshooting team that drives and kicks out to shooters, and runs pick and pop situations as a large part of their offense.


Really I can't think of a more perfect team for good old Brandon Bizass.

They recently acquired Thomas Robinson from whoever had him last- the poor kid is getting tossed around the NBA like beachball at an All Star game. He can slot in as a full time back up power forward to Sully and Olynyk. He'd also stop Humphries from getting minutes if Bass is traded.
Victor Calver is a salary filler and obviously we want their 2nd round pick- which I think they'll give up for a guy like Bass.
If they insist we could give them Brooks as well so ensure they give us the 2nd round pick.

Thoughts? Does it do the job of getting us some young 'upside' whilst giving our current young guys more minutes, and moves Bass's contract and talent to a better situation?

  I'm not sold on trading Bass making us much worse. Sully might get more minutes (although I wouldn't want to overwork him when he's still that close to his back surgery) or Humphries, and if they get the minutes it seems like a wash at worst.

Yeah, I don't get the idea behind trading Bass making us a worse team... it's a position where we have plenty of depth on. "Getting rid" of Bass will have little to no impact on our team's performance, the only thing it'll affect is future financial flexibility.

[BleedGreen1989]

For those who don't realize, Bass has actually made himself a very attractive trade chip. His defense is apparently elite (top 5 points per possession apparently) and his mid-range game is hot as ever.

While fans are of course not always an indication of what their FO will do, most Portland fans I've chatted with would be willing to give up Meyers Leonard/filler for Bass.

Meyers has been racking up DNP-CD's and has people whispering the dreaded "B" word. He looks entirely lost out there on both ends of the court and is seeing very few minutes. He could become some kind of project for Brad Stevens. My source (aka me) would almost guarantee he is moved this season for some "win now" help.

I think Brandon Bass would be a perfect fit and could really boost what has been a very average defensive team and he could play with LMA or Lopez.

I have no interest in T-Rob ever becoming a competent NBA player so I would pass on your deal.

Wow. I was gonna say maybe Bass + 1st pick would land us Leonard + filler (maybe a low risk-medium reward prospect?).

And I agree with the sentiment that T-Rob alone won't cut it for Brandon Bass.

Bass AND a first for Leonard?? I was definitely thinking that Portland would have to add the first, not us. Leonard will be lucky to ever one day be as good as Bass and their first will be pretty low this year. Bass is in his 'prime' and is a perfect player for any team looking to make a run. If I am trading Bass, I am not giving up any picks unless we are obviously upgrading for the future.

Well, not following the Blazers, I didn't know he was looking like a bust. Leonard was, after all, a lotto pick from a pretty deep, strong draft.

Bass for Leonard I'd do. Bass for Leonard and a first I'd very much do.

But, Leonard's value is basically pure fan speculation, so who knows. Just like how I* knew Fab Melo was bad but I* didn't think he was going to be straight up waive material.

Yeah, I mean he's only 21 so it's too soon to call him a bust but he was demoted to 3rd string center after camp behind Robin Lopez and Joel Freeland and has appeared in a total of 20 minutes this season. Part of that is due to an illness, but still.

He has great physical tools and is a legit 7'1. I was a big fan when he left Illinois, but he may be an example of a player who left college a year too soon.

He would be a reclamation project I'd take on though and hope Brad Stevens can figure him out.