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Re: Who is our shooting guard and center of the future?
« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2013, 11:41:24 AM »

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considering how messed up the Eastern conference is at the moment, I'd be happy with a couple of lottery picks (provided Atlanta misses the playoffs with the Nets) and would love a shot at Exum or Parker to go with Embiid.

I'm not sold on Green as being a 'star' player.   good complimentary player, sure.  star, no.  PP in his prime was a star.  Green is nowhere near as talented.

I don't understand the posts by a few people that Green is not our SF of the future. Sure he's not a star, but he's a very good starter on both ends of the floor, an excellent complementary player on e you have 2-3 stars to go with him. We are not going to have 5 all stars in our starting 5, so what's wrong with having green as one of those 5 with a reasonable contract? If you replace him with a better player you have to use up assets to do that, which then hurts your ability to improve the other positions
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Re: Who is our shooting guard and center of the future?
« Reply #31 on: December 05, 2013, 11:55:27 AM »

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considering how messed up the Eastern conference is at the moment, I'd be happy with a couple of lottery picks (provided Atlanta misses the playoffs with the Nets) and would love a shot at Exum or Parker to go with Embiid.

I'm not sold on Green as being a 'star' player.   good complimentary player, sure.  star, no.  PP in his prime was a star.  Green is nowhere near as talented.

I don't understand the posts by a few people that Green is not our SF of the future. Sure he's not a star, but he's a very good starter on both ends of the floor, an excellent complementary player on e you have 2-3 stars to go with him. We are not going to have 5 all stars in our starting 5, so what's wrong with having green as one of those 5 with a reasonable contract?

I'm more sold on Bradley being the SG of the future than Green being the SF on the future, but really, it's just that Green isn't that core All-Star and you just look to find that player, regardless of position and figure it out later.  That's what Houston did when they had an excellent non-All-Star center in Omer Asik (who is a better center than Green is a small forward) and still went out and got Dwight Howard.  It will be easier to find a way to get Green minutes or move him to the bench than it was for Asik in Houston because Green is theoretically a multi-positional player, even if he isn't really that good as a PF.

Green is an acceptable long-term SF, but he's not so good that the Celtics shouldn't be exploring options for an upgrade.
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Re: Who is our shooting guard and center of the future?
« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2013, 12:56:11 PM »

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I like AB.  I think he has improved but off season SG was an area of concern for me and I still think he'd be best for a team coming off the bench.   I think we need a C too.

Re: Who is our shooting guard and center of the future?
« Reply #33 on: December 05, 2013, 02:45:53 PM »

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Avery Bradley will be the SG.

Spencer Hawes will be your Center.

Re: Who is our shooting guard and center of the future?
« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2013, 03:05:49 PM »

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Who knows?

What I'd hope for, if assembling the team, was a prototypically sized sg with athleticism and a great outside shot, who could hunker down and play defense as well. Being a solid ballhandler wouldn't hurt, either.  For a center, simply being a good rebounder and rim protector would be great, maybe with an offensive game at Gortat's level--someone who needn't be a focal point offensively but who could still score when necessary and keep defenses honest.

If the Celtics could manage to find someone who is more of a game changer than Jeff Green, that's great, but he can be a solid third option and is capable on both ends of the court.  What he can do would be valuable to nearly any good team out there without superstar sfs (or Nic Batum), and I don't think he would be a weak link to a solid team.


Re: Who is our shooting guard and center of the future?
« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2013, 09:39:33 PM »

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For me it is an 'either or' scenario. I am happy with Rondo and Sullinger. I would be very happy with a center by committee plan using Olynyk and Faverani or anyone else as long as they can play a little defense and rebound in addition to hitting an open shot.

If we can upgrade at the SG and bring Avery Bradley off the becnh then that is OK with me and the same goes for Jeff Green at SF. There are some terrific prospects at both positions in the draft so I say let Danny go for it.

Even if we get a shot at Randle or Embiid, I say go for it. It would be a nice lineup with Sullinger at center and Randle at PF if he is the player the 'experts' think he is.
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Re: Who is our shooting guard and center of the future?
« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2013, 11:36:54 PM »

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For me it is an 'either or' scenario. I am happy with Rondo and Sullinger. I would be very happy with a center by committee plan using Olynyk and Faverani or anyone else as long as they can play a little defense and rebound in addition to hitting an open shot.

If we can upgrade at the SG and bring Avery Bradley off the becnh then that is OK with me and the same goes for Jeff Green at SF. There are some terrific prospects at both positions in the draft so I say let Danny go for it.

Even if we get a shot at Randle or Embiid, I say go for it. It would be a nice lineup with Sullinger at center and Randle at PF if he is the player the 'experts' think he is.

Randle and sully front court is too short. There both around 6'8 6'9

Embiid is raw

Re: Who is our shooting guard and center of the future?
« Reply #37 on: December 06, 2013, 12:14:05 AM »

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How about MKG and Dion waiters as your wing for the future
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mlv37p7
Boston sends: G Wall, AB, Brooks to the cats and BB with JCRAW to the cavs
Cle sends: Waiters to boston and Thomson to the cats
Cha sends: MKG and Gordon to boston

Cavs are frustrated with Dion and the cats want to win now (MKG has a broken hand). We obviously get much younger with more money coming off this offseason. Obviously we'd have to part with a pick or two. How about giving the bobcats the worst of the celtics and the hawks/nets pick. I think they'd bite on it

Re: Who is our shooting guard and center of the future?
« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2013, 12:35:10 AM »

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If we can upgrade at the SG and bring Avery Bradley off the becnh then that is OK with me and the same goes for Jeff Green at SF. There are some terrific prospects at both positions in the draft so I say let Danny go for it.

What if you could find a 6'6" or 6'7" scoring SG/SF who can provide 13-16 ppg in 25-30 minutes off the bench as a Sixth Man of the Year candidate backing up Bradley and Green?
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