Jordan Crawford - MIP

[kozlodoev]

Eric Bledsoe.

Nah, the only real improvement there would be if he demonstrates he  can string together two consecutive seasons with 70+ games played. So far, he's not on pace

[sunnyd656]

Not even top 5.  Statistically, he's just not there right now:

2012 - 14.7ppg, 3.0 apg, 2.6 rpg, 0.9 spg, 40%/29%/79% shooting, 27.4 mpg, PER 14.5
2013  - 11.6ppg, 3.2 apg, 3.0 rpg, 0.6 spg, 42%/34%/81% shooting, 24.4 mpg, PER 13.8
2014 - 12.4ppg, 5.2 apg, 3.3 rpg, 1.1 spg, 43%/36%/90% shooting, 28.6 mpg, PER 17.7

If these stats are true, then I retract my statement lol. Thanks for posting real, actual stats. Dunno if "viewer bias" is a real thing, but it would make sense, since we watch him every game and he does amazing things.    Not taking back anything I said about him tho, IMO reallly realllllly improved.

[sunnyd656]

If anybody's getting MIP it's probably Sullinger. Looks on his way to a breakout year.

Crawford has gone from completely useless to pretty useful, which is great, but you usually don't get an award for that.

Sully is playing the same game as last year. Sure, hes maybe more "comfortable", but we could see from last year that he would be this kind of player. And will become better. IMO does not = MIP

[LooseCannon]

If anybody's getting MIP it's probably Sullinger. Looks on his way to a breakout year.

Crawford has gone from completely useless to pretty useful, which is great, but you usually don't get an award for that.

Sully is playing the same game as last year. Sure, hes maybe more "comfortable", but we could see from last year that he would be this kind of player. And will become better. IMO does not = MIP

Sullinger's rebounds per 36 minutes are practically identical as last season, but his points per 36 minutes have jumped from 10.9 to 18.6 because his shot attempts have gone from 9.1 to 15.9.

The award tends to be biased towards players with big increases in their ppg, even though that is often due to players scoring at the same rate in more minutes per game.  Sullinger jumping from 6.0 to 13.2 points per game is the sort of increase that voters seem to like.
 

[sunnyd656]

If anybody's getting MIP it's probably Sullinger. Looks on his way to a breakout year.

Crawford has gone from completely useless to pretty useful, which is great, but you usually don't get an award for that.

Sully is playing the same game as last year. Sure, hes maybe more "comfortable", but we could see from last year that he would be this kind of player. And will become better. IMO does not = MIP

Sullinger's rebounds per 36 minutes are practically identical as last season, but his points per 36 minutes have jumped from 10.9 to 18.6 because his shot attempts have gone from 9.1 to 15.9.

The award tends to be biased towards players with big increases in their ppg, even though that is often due to players scoring at the same rate in more minutes per game.  Sullinger jumping from 6.0 to 13.2 points per game is the sort of increase that voters seem to like.

Which IMO, means exactly what I said. Pretty sure you were agreeing with me though. Again, I don't watch really any other teams except when on TNT, but Steez would be my vote MIP. MIP doesn't = more minutes to make more points/assists etc. MIP = Given same minutes as last year, increases their overall game. Again, is probably "viewers bias" but would have to give almost all of our 8 wins to Crawford for improving. Therefore giving AB the SG back instead of him being a laughable PG. (which was terrible as we can all agree)

I'm just rambling on (been drinking) but overall point I guess i'm tryin to make is: Crawford is going to get a WAY better contract than he would of last year.

[LarBrd33]

Crawford has played pretty good.  I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop.  How bad does a player have to be that a team literally gives him away for NOTHING?  I don't understand how Crawford could have burned his bridge with Washington that badly.

[pokeKingCurtis]

Crawford has played pretty good.  I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop.  How bad does a player have to be that a team literally gives him away for NOTHING?  I don't understand how Crawford could have burned his bridge with Washington that badly.

The reason J-Craw had a falling out with the Wizards was, supposedly, that he did not show up for practice and was benched.

That's what I read a week or two ago earlier this thread (or some other thread). Don't quote me on it since I might have remembered wrong.


But, almost in direct parallel to J-Craw, Blatche was amazing last year. Former Wizard Nick Young is doing pretty well now. It's no secret the Washington locker room was highly toxic.

[BballTim]

If anybody's getting MIP it's probably Sullinger. Looks on his way to a breakout year.

Crawford has gone from completely useless to pretty useful, which is great, but you usually don't get an award for that.

Sully is playing the same game as last year. Sure, hes maybe more "comfortable", but we could see from last year that he would be this kind of player. And will become better. IMO does not = MIP

Sullinger's rebounds per 36 minutes are practically identical as last season, but his points per 36 minutes have jumped from 10.9 to 18.6 because his shot attempts have gone from 9.1 to 15.9.

The award tends to be biased towards players with big increases in their ppg, even though that is often due to players scoring at the same rate in more minutes per game.  Sullinger jumping from 6.0 to 13.2 points per game is the sort of increase that voters seem to like.

  I think that a lot of the time scoring at the same rate over many more minutes points to better play. You're no longer playing mainly against reserves and fewer minutes when you have a tough matchup and you're playing more crunch time minutes as well.

[clover]

Sully's TOs per 36 have more than doubled from last year as well. His eFG% has crept up, but getting more opportunities to score and expanding his game are things you expect to see for any second-year player.

Crawford's redemption is IMO the more extraordinary.

[CapnDunks]

Edit:someone else beat me to it.

[BballTim]

Crawford has played pretty good.  I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop.  How bad does a player have to be that a team literally gives him away for NOTHING?  I don't understand how Crawford could have burned his bridge with Washington that badly.

  He makes a lot of dumb plays. Some of them are bailed out when he makes a fairly wild shot but that probably comes and goes. We'll see how he reacts when Rondo comes back, from what I heard he didn't react too well to Wall stepping back into the starting lineup.

[BballTim]

Sully's TOs per 36 have more than doubled from last year as well. His eFG% has crept up, but getting more opportunities to score and expanding his game are things you expect to see for any second-year player.

Crawford's redemption is IMO the more extraordinary.

  Sullly's gone from being the 4th or 5th option on offense last year to pretty much the first option this year. His turnovers per36 is more than double but his TO% is only up 30% or so. Having to create his own offense so much more accounts for that difference.

[pokeKingCurtis]

Sully's TOs per 36 have more than doubled from last year as well. His eFG% has crept up, but getting more opportunities to score and expanding his game are things you expect to see for any second-year player.

Crawford's redemption is IMO the more extraordinary.

  Sullly's gone from being the 4th or 5th option on offense last year to pretty much the first option this year. His turnovers per36 is more than double but his TO% is only up 30% or so. Having to create his own offense so much more accounts for that difference.

Not to mention the whole team is turnover prone.

Might be a workout regime that causes sweaty palms.

[hwangjini_1]

Crawford has played pretty good.  I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop.  How bad does a player have to be that a team literally gives him away for NOTHING?  I don't understand how Crawford could have burned his bridge with Washington that badly.

  He makes a lot of dumb plays. Some of them are bailed out when he makes a fairly wild shot but that probably comes and goes. We'll see how he reacts when Rondo comes back, from what I heard he didn't react too well to Wall stepping back into the starting lineup.

good points i think. i am not an insider or sure of all of crawford's woes in washington, but everything i read said "shameless gunner, poor shot selection, chucks up shots way too early on the clock" and such.

indeed, i still see him do exactly this 3-4 times a game. he plays hero ball and takes very low percentage shots.

but given his past, i see remarkable improvement in his maturity and shot selection this season. i credit BOTH him and stevens on the change.

how he handles rondo's return will be interesting.

[Celtics4ever]

I think Crawford could relegate AB to the bench if RR returns to form.  He can shoot better and has done a lot of things (more than AB) to help us win this year.