Trade idea: Boozer for Crawford, Bass, and Lee

[jay]

What about Okafor for Crawford, Bass, and Lee?   Straight salary dump.   Give them nets/hawks pick.

[LooseCannon]

What about Okafor for Crawford, Bass, and Lee?   Straight salary dump.   Give them nets/hawks pick.

There is no good reason to waste a pick to dump salary right now.

[Celtics4ever]

This might need to be expanded, but what are your thoughts on this?  It frees up space to us after next year.

both GMS hang up on it.

[Smitty77]

This might need to be expanded, but what are your thoughts on this?  It frees up space to us after next year.

both GMS hang up on it.

I appreciate your comments, but could you please at least explain your reasoning as to why both GM's hand up the phone??  Do the Bulls NOT need a PG??

[slamtheking]

bad deal.  Boozer offers us nothing.

he may end a year sooner than Lee but so what.  C's aren't going to be players in FA for 2 years while they clear the roster of current vets and accumulate some more-talented youth.

[Celtics4ever]

I appreciate your comments, but could you please at least explain your reasoning as to why both GM's hand up the phone??  Do the Bulls NOT need a PG??

I agree Boozer offers little and only hurts us in terms of development.   He would eat into the Oly and Sully minutes.  Good luck selling Chicago that JC is a PG.   I think they had one Jordan and it worked out well for them but I doubt they bite on this one.  In the end, I don't think teams value the cap space as much as we do.  I don't think CHI is this desperate.

[Smitty77]

bad deal.  Boozer offers us nothing.

he may end a year sooner than Lee but so what.  C's aren't going to be players in FA for 2 years while they clear the roster of current vets and accumulate some more-talented youth.

So, you don't think that Boozer could teach Sully a thing or two about getting his shot off without getting it blocked and still NOT having a vertical??  That could be priceless.  I bet he could learn skills from Boozer in the next year and a half that could add 4-8 points onto his scoring average and potentially turn Sully from a fringe All-Star type player into a possible All-Star. 

Also, Boozer might really like it here and be willing to re-sign with us for a reasonable amount.  Don't get me wrong, I am NOT in love with Boozer's lack of defense, but Sully might teach him something on that end about bringing it defensively EVERY night.

Smitty77

[Smitty77]

I appreciate your comments, but could you please at least explain your reasoning as to why both GM's hand up the phone??  Do the Bulls NOT need a PG??

I agree Boozer offers little and only hurts us in terms of development.   He would eat into the Oly and Sully minutes.  Good luck selling Chicago that JC is a PG.   I think they had one Jordan and it worked out well for them but I doubt they bite on this one.  In the end, I don't think teams value the cap space as much as we do.  I don't think CHI is this desperate.

That makes sense, but read my latest post about how Booz could serve as a nice offensive mentor for Sully.

[slamtheking]

bad deal.  Boozer offers us nothing.

he may end a year sooner than Lee but so what.  C's aren't going to be players in FA for 2 years while they clear the roster of current vets and accumulate some more-talented youth.

So, you don't think that Boozer could teach Sully a thing or two about getting his shot off without getting it blocked and still NOT having a vertical??  That could be priceless.  I bet he could learn skills from Boozer in the next year and a half that could add 4-8 points onto his scoring average and potentially turn Sully from a fringe All-Star type player into a possible All-Star. 

Also, Boozer might really like it here and be willing to re-sign with us for a reasonable amount.  Don't get me wrong, I am NOT in love with Boozer's lack of defense, but Sully might teach him something on that end about bringing it defensively EVERY night.

Smitty77

that's a complete pie-in-the-sky optimistic outcome.  most likely outcome is that Boozer focusses on Boozer which is getting that last big contract.  He's not going to help a younger player become better than him.  Add in that we already have 3 PFs on the roster in Sully, KO and Hump (who's also playing for his next contract) and I can't see how Boozer does anything to benefit anyone but himself. 

[ssspence]

Nah. Poor value for the Cs, IMO.

[Celtics4ever]

So, you don't think that Boozer could teach Sully a thing or two about getting his shot off without getting it blocked and still NOT having a vertical?

I think experience playing would help Sully more than Boozer but I am a Celtics fan and not a Bull fan also but that is just me.

Name a big Boozer has mentored?   That's right he is "me" guy just ask LeBron.  It's not like he is John Wooden or Pete Newell and develops great bigs.   Truth be told he isn't that good of a big himself.

[Cman]

I appreciate your comments, but could you please at least explain your reasoning as to why both GM's hand up the phone??  Do the Bulls NOT need a PG??

I agree Boozer offers little and only hurts us in terms of development.   He would eat into the Oly and Sully minutes. 

I think Boozer is an upgrade, but probably doesn't help the Cs that much. More important, I don't really see the incentive from Chicago's point of view.

More important, this isn't the type of big deal that Danny is after. Danny is after a star, via trade (or draft), not via free agency. If he can accumulate "chips" to help him (see: First round picks from Brooklyn), then he'll do it, but otherwise there is too little incentive....

[Moranis]

I appreciate your comments, but could you please at least explain your reasoning as to why both GM's hand up the phone??  Do the Bulls NOT need a PG??

I agree Boozer offers little and only hurts us in terms of development.   He would eat into the Oly and Sully minutes. 

I think Boozer is an upgrade, but probably doesn't help the Cs that much. More important, I don't really see the incentive from Chicago's point of view.

More important, this isn't the type of big deal that Danny is after. Danny is after a star, via trade (or draft), not via free agency. If he can accumulate "chips" to help him (see: First round picks from Brooklyn), then he'll do it, but otherwise there is too little incentive....

I agree, if Humphries was in the trade I could Chicago being more interested, but what do they want with Lee and Bass or even Crawford for that matter.  A pure salary dump though and I think they might listen.  Of course I don't see the point in that for Boston.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

Boozer does nothing that KO cannot do...imagine if boozer was here..and got as little passes after the pick and roll or in the paint as KO does......he would actually do less..as it is KO gets the ball in the paint off of rebounds.......they need to use him MORE, and have sully on the other side rebounding if KO misses...that would start something good..!!! Watch as KO sets the pic, rolls, looks, has lane....NO PASS...and he finishes VERY well.....WHUT is the prob....!!!

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

This might need to be expanded, but what are your thoughts on this?  It frees up space to us after next year.

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6365495

We would need to include Marshon so we are not taking on more money this year.  This move, including Brooks, would save us a little this year, but cost us 1.69m more next year, the year that Boozer expires.

Thoughts?

This would give the Bulls a starting PG and a rotation SG and a good outside shooting PF with playoff experience in Bass.

Smitty77

BOOZE CRUISEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!