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Re: Are we Rondo + 1 player away from contending?
« Reply #45 on: November 27, 2013, 01:23:38 PM »

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amuzing... there's a lot of discussion on this board about not giving up Rondo for anything less than a superstar, and those same folks now believe there are deals out there for superstar players with our expirings, picks and role players?

  That's because there are different reasons for trading players, including things like what direction the team is heading in, what their payroll looks like going forward, the player's attitude or which side of 30 the player being traded is. Not every case is the same. That (and what we've heard from Danny and another GM) makes your "most gms think Rondo's the most likely player to be traded") somewhat unlikely.


Is the former related to the latter?

  If you're referring to the way virtually everything anyone associated with the Celts has said about Rondo's attitude over the last few years falls under the category of praise, I suppose it does.


Re: Are we Rondo + 1 player away from contending?
« Reply #46 on: November 27, 2013, 01:24:21 PM »

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I think Melo and Asik would be great with Rondo.  Defense and Offense solved.

Re: Are we Rondo + 1 player away from contending?
« Reply #47 on: November 27, 2013, 01:27:42 PM »

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I think Melo and Asik would be great with Rondo.  Defense and Offense solved.

I agree - you put Rondo on the Knicks with a healthy Chandler and they would be the 3rd best team in the East.  Rondo needs an elite score to take his team to a top 3 seed in the east...

Re: Are we Rondo + 1 player away from contending?
« Reply #48 on: November 27, 2013, 02:21:40 PM »

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Melo Asik And Rondo would be a team I'd be very comfortable building around, especially if you could hold on to either Jeff Green or Jared Sullinger as you acquired them.

I don't think it's very likely, though.
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Re: Are we Rondo + 1 player away from contending?
« Reply #49 on: November 27, 2013, 02:27:45 PM »

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Melo Asik And Rondo would be a team I'd be very comfortable building around, especially if you could hold on to either Jeff Green or Jared Sullinger as you acquired them.

I don't think it's very likely, though.

Melo and Rondo are an awful fit together.
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Re: Are we Rondo + 1 player away from contending?
« Reply #50 on: November 27, 2013, 02:30:56 PM »

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Melo Asik And Rondo would be a team I'd be very comfortable building around, especially if you could hold on to either Jeff Green or Jared Sullinger as you acquired them.

I don't think it's very likely, though.
Melo and any other player are an awful fit together.

Obviously, if the 1 player is Lebron or KD, we are contenders with that person and Rondo. Heck, any 14 guys with Lebron is a contending team.
Melo and Rondo are an awful fit together.

Re: Are we Rondo + 1 player away from contending?
« Reply #51 on: November 27, 2013, 02:34:33 PM »

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Melo Asik And Rondo would be a team I'd be very comfortable building around, especially if you could hold on to either Jeff Green or Jared Sullinger as you acquired them.

I don't think it's very likely, though.
Melo and any other player are an awful fit together.

Obviously, if the 1 player is Lebron or KD, we are contenders with that person and Rondo. Heck, any 14 guys with Lebron is a contending team.
Melo and Rondo are an awful fit together.

I disagree -Rondo and Melo are a great fit.  He would get Melo so many open shots, I actually can't think of a better fit for Melo than Rondo?

Re: Are we Rondo + 1 player away from contending?
« Reply #52 on: November 27, 2013, 02:40:03 PM »

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Melo Asik And Rondo would be a team I'd be very comfortable building around, especially if you could hold on to either Jeff Green or Jared Sullinger as you acquired them.

I don't think it's very likely, though.

Melo and Rondo are an awful fit together.

Melo Asik And Rondo would be a team I'd be very comfortable building around, especially if you could hold on to either Jeff Green or Jared Sullinger as you acquired them.

I don't think it's very likely, though.
Melo and any other player are an awful fit together.

Obviously, if the 1 player is Lebron or KD, we are contenders with that person and Rondo. Heck, any 14 guys with Lebron is a contending team.
Melo and Rondo are an awful fit together.

Based on what?

'Melo's best play happened when he was playing with a quality point guard.
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Re: Are we Rondo + 1 player away from contending?
« Reply #53 on: November 27, 2013, 02:54:08 PM »

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Melo Asik And Rondo would be a team I'd be very comfortable building around, especially if you could hold on to either Jeff Green or Jared Sullinger as you acquired them.

I don't think it's very likely, though.

Melo and Rondo are an awful fit together.

Melo Asik And Rondo would be a team I'd be very comfortable building around, especially if you could hold on to either Jeff Green or Jared Sullinger as you acquired them.

I don't think it's very likely, though.
Melo and any other player are an awful fit together.

Obviously, if the 1 player is Lebron or KD, we are contenders with that person and Rondo. Heck, any 14 guys with Lebron is a contending team.
Melo and Rondo are an awful fit together.

Based on what?

'Melo's best play happened when he was playing with a quality point guard.

Because neither is particularly successful unless they handle the ball the vast majority of the time. Said another way, the offense of a team can only flow throw one of them, harming the strength of the other.

Why want Melo in the first place? He has a historically bad playoff record. If he were gonna 'get it', he'd have gotten it by now. He's a loser, plain and simple. 
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Re: Are we Rondo + 1 player away from contending?
« Reply #54 on: November 27, 2013, 03:13:14 PM »

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I agree with the above Melo and any player is an awful fit ! He thinks to shoot first and second and really third ! NOT a "team" player. No conscious player

Re: Are we Rondo + 1 player away from contending?
« Reply #55 on: November 27, 2013, 03:24:32 PM »

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Melo = loser 

Denver was better without him.

Re: Are we Rondo + 1 player away from contending?
« Reply #56 on: November 27, 2013, 03:35:52 PM »

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Melo = loser 

Denver was better without him.
The thing is, if he plays within a system and has a good ball handler/floor general to regulate his shots he is probably the best scorer in the league.

I have never been a fan of his, but his ability to knock down shots in the olympics made me think that if he is in a system where they do more than dump it to him and get out of the way he will succeed.
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Re: Are we Rondo + 1 player away from contending?
« Reply #57 on: November 27, 2013, 03:45:02 PM »

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Melo = loser 

Denver was better without him.
The thing is, if he plays within a system and has a good ball handler/floor general to regulate his shots he is probably the best scorer in the league.

I have never been a fan of his, but his ability to knock down shots in the olympics made me think that if he is in a system where they do more than dump it to him and get out of the way he will succeed.
Which is why New York has been and will continue to be a disaster for him.

Dolan isn't the type of ownership figure who can handle Melo. They need an owner willing to let a strong GM/Coach build a team and role for Melo.

Instead you get Dolan's general incompetence and petulance which is compounded to how he has let CAA and Melo dictate so much of that franchises direction.

But then again, Melo chose Dolan and the Knicks, not the other way around so yeah....

Re: Are we Rondo + 1 player away from contending?
« Reply #58 on: November 27, 2013, 03:51:40 PM »

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Because neither is particularly successful unless they handle the ball the vast majority of the time. Said another way, the offense of a team can only flow throw one of them, harming the strength of the other.

Why want Melo in the first place? He has a historically bad playoff record. If he were gonna 'get it', he'd have gotten it by now. He's a loser, plain and simple.
How would it be any different from Rondo playing with Pierce?

Re: Are we Rondo + 1 player away from contending?
« Reply #59 on: November 27, 2013, 04:25:56 PM »

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I have never been a fan of his, but his ability to knock down shots in the olympics made me think that if he is in a system where they do more than dump it to him and get out of the way he will succeed.

Gifted offensive player definitely, I just don't think he plays equally on both ends of the floor.   He was great in college.   But the pros is a player's league and a guy as good as Melo with his attitude will walk all over most coaches and do his own thing.  He's be a great one if he was dedicated on both ends as it is he is a very good one.

I think he comes here and he'd be the man.   No one on our team would have the clout to change him.  Same Melo playing only on one end of the court.