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Gerald Green? Maybe Danny was right afterall.
« on: November 21, 2013, 01:12:40 PM »

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Many players get brought up & brought back over & over again on CB but I'm surprised no one has mentioned Gerald Green & how great he's playing here in Phoenix. Could it be nobody wants to eat crow for all the terrible things they've said about him through the years? With that said I get a first hand look every night & he's the talk of the town/team evenover Eric Bledsoe. So much so that its rumblings around here they wanna trade Dragic so that he can stay in the starting lineup. He's averaging 15pts which is OK but 18pts as a starter. Shooting 50% in FG's which mostly long jumpers & 46% from 3 land. And as a starter he's shooting 52% from deep making 3.6 per on 6.8 attempts which is plenty & he's in the top 10 in NBA in makes. Also he is making better decisions & is a very decent defender now in Phoenix & that's not a stretch at all if you have watched the Suns play. Gets a fair amount of steals & blocks. All in all he looks a lot better than our Green (Jeff) does & he is more consistent. Let that hating begin on GG but as of right now its unwarranted because he's balling! Dude is only 27 so he's getting better with maturity & he's hungry to prove his doubters wrong.

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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2013, 01:14:52 PM »

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It's been ten-ish games.

Bump this thread in February and we'll see what the situation is.
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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2013, 01:17:29 PM »

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It's been ten-ish games.

Bump this thread in February and we'll see what the situation is.
But after said amount of games you have to be somewhat impressed with what you see. Completely different makeup about himself & his game.

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Didn't he have a similar hot streak when he came back to the Nets?  Then couldn't do much in Indiana last year? 

So, he's put some numbers and highlights up for two bad teams, and couldn't produce much for one good team.  Sounds about right.

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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2013, 01:26:07 PM »

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It's been ten-ish games.

Bump this thread in February and we'll see what the situation is.
But after said amount of games you have to be somewhat impressed with what you see. Completely different makeup about himself & his game.

I haven't actually watched a Suns game yet this year. It'd be awesome if he puts it all together, I just want to see him do it over a full season.
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If there is anybody that needed a couple of years of college, it's Gerald Green. He would have come into the NBA more mentally ready and would have had the opportunity to succeed early on, rather than hitting rock bottom and working his way back up. You're right, he is only 27 and there is no reason why he can't be a successful rotation player for the next 6-7 years.

I get the controversy with making NBA ready players go to college for a year. Guys like Kobe, KG, etc showed why it isn't necessary for everybody. Unfortunately you have guys like Green who showed all the athletic ability in the world, but were total boneheads. College would have done him well.

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It's been ten-ish games.

Bump this thread in February and we'll see what the situation is.
But after said amount of games you have to be somewhat impressed with what you see. Completely different makeup about himself & his game.

  Somewhat impressed with the caveat that you know he won't shoot 52% on threes for the season, right?

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If there is anybody that needed a couple of years of college, it's Gerald Green. He would have come into the NBA more mentally ready and would have had the opportunity to succeed early on, rather than hitting rock bottom and working his way back up. You're right, he is only 27 and there is no reason why he can't be a successful rotation player for the next 6-7 years.

I get the controversy with making NBA ready players go to college for a year. Guys like Kobe, KG, etc showed why it isn't necessary for everybody. Unfortunately you have guys like Green who showed all the athletic ability in the world, but were total boneheads. College would have done him well.
Kobe and KG really have no bearing on the problems around forcing players take a year between high school and the NBA.
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so many points could be made here, but let's start with the "we should have kept GG and should have seen this coming from him" undertone.

the career averages for his first 6 years are:
8.3 points/game
2.3 rbds/game
0.9 assists/game
1.2 turnovers/game

and not reflected in the stats are a huge series of poor on court decisions during those 6 years. who wouldnt realistically think GG was a fringe player?

are we to say now that we should have kept him around on the roster for 6 years because in his 7th year he MAYBE finally is playing like a credible nba player? just how far ahead are people supposed to be able to project a player who doesnt perform for years?

and it wasnt just the boston leadership who had doubts about his effectiveness. he was also shown the door by houston, minnesota, dallas, brooklyn, and indiana. and let's toss in all the other teams who did not even give him a try out at all. are they all idiots or blind or amiss in basketball judgement?

honestly, this seem very much like a post hoc analysis reached SIX YEARS after his initial try outs.

finally, what are we to conclude from this? that everyone that is one-dimensional as a rookie and terrible at everything else should be given 6-7 years to mature? heck, the celtics roster would be stuffed with such players were that the case. would they all pan out?

good for GG that he finally is having a good span of games and maybe has finally learned that shooting alone doesnt keep him in the nba. if so, i am happy for him.

but as posted above, this is really a sss and let's see the season play out before making final judgements shall we? doing so might greatly reduce size of the crow-buffet for everyone concerned.
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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2013, 02:12:13 PM »

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I'm all for getting an all-Green lineup. Celtic Pride!

Willie Green
Danny Green
Gerald Green
Jeff Green
Draymond Green

EDIT: I forgot the Free Agents

Donte Greene
JaMychal Green

seriously, I hope Gerald can make a solid career. He, as any NBA player, could've benefited from a real development system which the NBA currently lacks. NCAA is terrible at that, one-and-done or not. And the D-League could end being that, but not yet.


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It's been ten-ish games.

Bump this thread in February and we'll see what the situation is.
But after said amount of games you have to be somewhat impressed with what you see. Completely different makeup about himself & his game.

  Somewhat impressed with the caveat that you know he won't shoot 52% on threes for the season, right?
I tried telling this to OJ Mayo fans last year, didn't take then either.

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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2013, 02:21:15 PM »

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It's been ten-ish games.

Bump this thread in February and we'll see what the situation is.
But after said amount of games you have to be somewhat impressed with what you see. Completely different makeup about himself & his game.

  Somewhat impressed with the caveat that you know he won't shoot 52% on threes for the season, right?
I tried telling this to OJ Mayo fans last year, didn't take then either.

  I feel your pain.

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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2013, 02:32:14 PM »

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I'm certainly rooting for Gerald to pull it together and carve out a productive career for himself from here on out.

However, if Gerald does finally succeed, it will in no way make me feel that it was a mistake to include him a trade that brought back Kevin Garnett and the Celtics first title in over twenty years. 
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If there is anybody that needed a couple of years of college, it's Gerald Green. He would have come into the NBA more mentally ready and would have had the opportunity to succeed early on, rather than hitting rock bottom and working his way back up. You're right, he is only 27 and there is no reason why he can't be a successful rotation player for the next 6-7 years.

I get the controversy with making NBA ready players go to college for a year. Guys like Kobe, KG, etc showed why it isn't necessary for everybody. Unfortunately you have guys like Green who showed all the athletic ability in the world, but were total boneheads. College would have done him well.

  Green's much better off having skipped college. He probably wouldn't have been a 1st round draft pick otherwise.