Do we own the best bunch of draft picks?

[beantownboy171]

Just looking through that list. There are very few unprotected first round picks. Somehow he we have 4 of them (although you could consider the nets/hawks swap a restriction).

We have very high upside in our draft choices from 2015-2017 (which will come when rondo is 29, 30 and 31).

We will have an opportunity to have a really unique, home grown franchise.

[Tr1boy]

Danny is not going to draft 2 1st round picks for the next 5 years.

He will if he doesn't think he will get enough value trading the picks, but he won't be averse to trading a young player with upside that he drafted a year or two ago.

I disagree. He won't get a fair deal if he wants to move up to a spot he feels comfortable to get a player he really wants or thinks the team needs.

Adding Bass, Lee is not going to help you move up many spots

I could see Ainge trading down in the 2014 draft if he can pick up a future pick to get the player he really wants at a better value.

If he wants to move up a few spots and thinks it is fair to give up two but not three future firsts, then I think he will hold the line on what he thinks is fair value instead of caving.  I think he won't be forced into any desperate, panic moves.

But what is a combo of any two picks going to get you, unless one of the celts pick is a surefire top 5 pick?? No team is dumb to even give up a top ten pick in a strong draft for a 12th and 20th pick lets say.

In that case another future 1st might have to be offered.

If a team say already has a durant, and for them there is no point of drafting another francise sf, theg may work with us. But we will still have to overpay

[Tr1boy]

We cant keep hanging around. The goal is to win another championship soon. We are not a city of fans that are patient. Same with the lakers.

Danny is not going to endure more than 2 years of being a mediocre team.

[LooseCannon]

But what is a combo of any two picks going to get you, unless one of the celts pick is a surefire top 5 pick?? No team is dumb to even give up a top ten pick in a strong draft for a 12th and 20th pick lets say.

The going rate seems to be that a second round pick might let you move up a couple of spots in the late 20s while a lottery-protected first from a likely playoff team might let you move up a couple of spots in the mid-teens. 

Based on past history, the 12th and 20th pick would usually be good enough for maybe the 10th pick.  It depends on if the team with the 10th pick likes someone who they think will be taken with the 11th pick if they trade down.  Ainge is the kind of guy who might trade the 10th pick for the 12th and 20th because he has locked in on a guy who will almost certainly be there at 20 and he would refuse to reach for the guy at 12 even if he thinks that is the best player left in the draft.

[Tr1boy]

But what is a combo of any two picks going to get you, unless one of the celts pick is a surefire top 5 pick?? No team is dumb to even give up a top ten pick in a strong draft for a 12th and 20th pick lets say.

The going rate seems to be that a second round pick might let you move up a couple of spots in the late 20s while a lottery-protected first from a likely playoff team might let you move up a couple of spots in the mid-teens. 

Based on past history, the 12th and 20th pick would usually be good enough for maybe the 10th pick.  It depends on if the team with the 10th pick likes someone who they think will be taken with the 11th pick if they trade down.  Ainge is the kind of guy who might trade the 10th pick for the 12th and 20th because he has locked in on a guy who will almost certainly be there at 20 and he would refuse to reach for the guy at 12 even if he thinks that is the best player left in the draft.

But would he trade his 12 and 20th pick for that 9-10th pick?

Is he so desperate for Parker, Exum, Smart to add another future 1st so he can get one of them??

He traded the bank away to get KG and Allen several years ago. I don't think he will be shy to do it again if the opportunity presented itself

[LooseCannon]

But would he trade his 12 and 20th pick for that 9-10th pick?

Is he so desperate for Parker, Exum, Smart to add another future 1st so he can get one of them??

He traded the bank away to get KG and Allen several years ago. I don't think he will be shy to do it again if the opportunity presented itself

That's a question that can't really be answered until around draft day, when you have a better idea of who is available at those spots.  It basically depends on whether there is anyone he wants who he thinks will be there at 9 or 10 but not 12 and how big the gap is in his evaluation of his first and second choice.

He traded the bank away for KG/RA, but he refused to give in on his "no Rondo" line.  There is going to be a point where Ainge is going to say the cost is too much.  He's not going treat picks as worthless throw-ins.

[Tr1boy]

But would he trade his 12 and 20th pick for that 9-10th pick?

Is he so desperate for Parker, Exum, Smart to add another future 1st so he can get one of them??

He traded the bank away to get KG and Allen several years ago. I don't think he will be shy to do it again if the opportunity presented itself

That's a question that can't really be answered until around draft day, when you have a better idea of who is available at those spots.  It basically depends on whether there is anyone he wants who he thinks will be there at 9 or 10 but not 12 and how big the gap is in his evaluation of his first and second choice.

He traded the bank away for KG/RA, but he refused to give in on his "no Rondo" line.  There is going to be a point where Ainge is going to say the cost is too much.  He's not going treat picks as worthless throw-ins.

i agree about the rondo part.

We will have to see what happens. He has said there is no one from the 2014 draft that he sees as a game changer and maybe very happy with two picks in the 10-19 range

[Boris Badenov]

Danny is not going to draft 2 1st round picks for the next 5 years.

He will if he doesn't think he will get enough value trading the picks, but he won't be averse to trading a young player with upside that he drafted a year or two ago.

If you think Danny is an above-average drafter (I'm in that camp), then this is the right way to do it.

Get the talent first then flip it. It will be worth more than the "market value" of the pick, which is determined by what it would yield in some average GM's hands.

This is how we did it with Al Jefferson.

As current examples, I think right now we have two players in Sully and Olynyk who are looking (in early returns) to be more valuable than the picks that were used to get them.