Let's End the Tank vs. Non Tank discussions

[aingeforthree]

For all I know, you and IndeedProceed were telling us how a first round exit was coming a couple years back when they sat at 15-17.  Next thing you know, they're sitting in the Eastern Conference Finals.

What does your own ignorance regarding what I've said in the past have to do with anything?

Ignorance ?  Really ?

Tone it down a bit.  This is a message board, that's it.  No call for that.

[indeedproceed]

For all I know, you and IndeedProceed were telling us how a first round exit was coming a couple years back when they sat at 15-17.  Next thing you know, they're sitting in the Eastern Conference Finals.

What does your own ignorance regarding what I've said in the past have to do with anything?

Ignorance ?  Really ?

Tone it down a bit.  This is a message board, that's it.  No call for that.

Yes, ignorance.

When you say something that is unfounded about me, and admit it, and use it as part of a point you're trying to make, I'm wondering why its relevant I guess. 

[aingeforthree]

For all I know, you and IndeedProceed were telling us how a first round exit was coming a couple years back when they sat at 15-17.  Next thing you know, they're sitting in the Eastern Conference Finals.

What does your own ignorance regarding what I've said in the past have to do with anything?

Ignorance ?  Really ?

Tone it down a bit.  This is a message board, that's it.  No call for that.

Yes, ignorance.

When you say something that is unfounded about me, and admit it, and use it as part of a point you're trying to make, I'm wondering why its relevant I guess.

I see.

Carry on with your bad self then, moderator.  Have a good day.

[mmmmm]

The bottom line is that we aren't going to purposely lose games... we just flat out stink.  That's partially by design.  A minority of fans are still clinging to the idea that this team has enough talent to be competitive.  As the losses pile up, they will quiet down and there will cease to be any debate on the subject.

Give it a month or two and you aren't going to see tank vs no tank... you'll see wiggins vs parker vs randle. 

In late January if Rondo suits up, the minority might speak up again, but I have a feeling by then it will be too late.

It's not that I'm clinging to any idea, it's just that I believe the C's aren't as bad as IndeedProceed states.  I don't think they're in the running for Parker, Wiggins, or Randle.

Well, as things stand, if we indeed finished with the 7th worst record, we'd have a grand total of a 15% chance at landing one of the top 3 picks.

We would have no chance at picks 4, 5 or 6.

We'd have a 59.9% chance of staying at the 7th pick, a 23.2% chance of slipping to the 8th pick and a tiny 1.8% chance of slipping to 9th.

[BballTim]

The bottom line is that we aren't going to purposely lose games... we just flat out stink.  That's partially by design.  A minority of fans are still clinging to the idea that this team has enough talent to be competitive.  As the losses pile up, they will quiet down and there will cease to be any debate on the subject.

Give it a month or two and you aren't going to see tank vs no tank... you'll see wiggins vs parker vs randle. 

In late January if Rondo suits up, the minority might speak up again, but I have a feeling by then it will be too late.

It's not that I'm clinging to any idea, it's just that I believe the C's aren't as bad as IndeedProceed states.  I don't think they're in the running for Parker, Wiggins, or Randle.

A lot happens during the year, and it doesn't generally start happening in November.  Add on Rondo and who knows just where it ultimately sits.

For all I know, you and IndeedProceed were telling us how a first round exit was coming a couple years back when they sat at 15-17.  Next thing you know, they're sitting in the Eastern Conference Finals.

  The people who said that team were a first round exit in 2012 were on the optimistic side of the posters. The more prevalent viewpoint was that there was no way the team would be in the playoffs.

[Boris Badenov]

I don't think anyone hasn't been rooting for those things.

I feel like double negatives are appropriate when looking at the silver linings of what appears to be a bad team.

They're certainly not inappropriate.

[LarBrd33]

I actually think we are worse than our record suggests. 

[BballTim]

I don't think anyone hasn't been rooting for those things.

  They do a pretty good job of hiding the "not rooting" when they gloat over every loss.

[hwangjini_1]

yes, let's end the discussion. clearly they celtics have no need to intentionally tank. simply being a terrible team is doing that for them.

[TwinTower14]

yes, let's end the discussion. clearly they celtics have no need to intentionally tank. simply being a terrible team is doing that for them.

hahahah...tonight and Friday are going to be even worse.  Funny after they won four in a row everyone thought this was a playoff team....this team is real bad...

[kozlodoev]

yes, let's end the discussion. clearly they celtics have no need to intentionally tank. simply being a terrible team is doing that for them.

hahahah...tonight and Friday are going to be even worse.  Funny after they won four in a row everyone thought this was a playoff team....this team is real bad...

If this team kept doing the things that got them to win 4 in a row (that is, run a semblance on functional offense and apply full effort on defense), they'd probably not be 4-8. But it seems that was too much to ask.

[Onslaught]

I actually think we are worse than our record suggests.

We are, only problem is I think the same thing could be said about a few other teams and we still have Rondo coming back at some point. Well, I'm not sure Utah could get any worse but others could out tank us in the end.

[hwangjini_1]

yes, let's end the discussion. clearly they celtics have no need to intentionally tank. simply being a terrible team is doing that for them.

hahahah...tonight and Friday are going to be even worse.  Funny after they won four in a row everyone thought this was a playoff team....this team is real bad...

If this team kept doing the things that got them to win 4 in a row (that is, run a semblance on functional offense and apply full effort on defense), they'd probably not be 4-8. But it seems that was too much to ask.

i agree. but then, that is one of the common characteristics of a bad team is it not? - inconsistency. some nights they all play well and can win. but those nights are few and far between.

it is not just a question of talent, which is in short supply in boston, but also consistency. jeff green is the perfect example to me. some nights he is great. but then look at the past couple of games.

as ainge said about green, and indirectly the entire team, he needs to score consistently.

with the current roster i dont see stevens being able to wave a magic wand and win games often. but he can train the younger players to play hard and execute plays. then, after the celtics dump the dross and get some stars, this will be a good team.

until then, as long as they play hard and smart i have no real trouble with the team this year.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

I actually think we are worse than our record suggests.

yep

[BringToughnessBack]

Tanking by Lack of Talent is definitely our reality right now Last nights game was the first time I flashed back to 2006-07 season where managed to win 24 games. On paper, I am not sure this current team as assembled, is even that good.

I am looking at this season not as a tank job but rather a learning curve for our newest, young players. I will hopefully enjoy watching them progress and get better for our future. A high draft pick would be nice but I will worry about that the night of the ping pong balls.

I would not be shocked to see Wallace, Lee and Humphries traded to a team that needs healthy bodies(Knicks are a perfect candidate).

I think Rondo will be great as a rebuilding piece but would also not be surprised if a team in January/February who is a PG away from challenging to get deep into playoffs comes a calling with an offer to good to be true. All bets are off what Danny would do, but if the trade is that good(Nets deal comes to mind), I am sure he would not flinch.

No more Tanking or Not Tanking thoughts in my head..this team is tanking cause they are that young and that bad. The only place to go after this year is up(hopefully), especially with a smart coach who is not afraid to try new things.

I can live with this year. i even kept my NBA package to watch every Celtics game like I have done every year for a long time. Occasionally  I might even dream of one of the 3 elite talents coming out in draft next year wearing Celtics Green