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Re: Chad Ford: Who's NBA execs' No. 1 draft pick?
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2013, 04:58:26 PM »

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Danny holds his cards tight to his vest when it comes to the draft.  No way he's talking about anything right now.  He's not quoted in that article.

He holds his cards tight when it comes to trade talk as well, it's the other franchises that leak the info.

I strongly disagree with this.  While I think Danny keeps the real information close, he LOVES to play the media to set up smoke screens, etc...and I have always suspected that Chad Ford is his favorite fiddle. 

Re: Chad Ford: Who's NBA execs' No. 1 draft pick?
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2013, 05:13:14 PM »

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Randle is the man!

Re: Chad Ford: Who's NBA execs' No. 1 draft pick?
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2013, 05:28:11 PM »

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the GM talking about Exum is Rob Hennigan from the Orlando Magic. 

Hennigan was the assistant to the assistant (Presti) in San Antonio and was a major contributor and advocate to their international scouting.  He's an up and coming GM who isn't afraid to take a chance. 

Exum/Oladipo would be a dynamic back court for years and years

Their wish is to have Exum/Olapido/Harris/Vucevic/Harkless and then round out the roster with Free Agents.  If they play their cards right they should have significant cap space in the near future and Florida is always an attractive place for Free Agents not named Dwight Howard

Re: Chad Ford: Who's NBA execs' No. 1 draft pick?
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2013, 05:39:01 PM »

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Wiggins and Parker I think are a level above Randle and Exum. Wiggins is an elite defender and has a high offensive ceiling but I think people underrate his floor. He has decent handles in the half court and is explosive/productive in transition. Parker is just an amazing scorer and smart team defender.

Randle I have my doubts because while he is a beast, I think people overrate his athleticism. He is only 6'8, 6'9 so I'm not sure how that will translate into the NBA. I know I will get killed for this but I see a lot of Anthony Bennett in him. Granted Randle is more skilled on the block, I'm still not sure how he matches up with elite players. That said I think he will be a good player but not someone I would be comfortable taking #1 overall.

Exum is interesting because I'm not sure what position he will play in the NBA. A lot of people say he's NBA position is PG but again most people haven't seen him play enough.

 
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Re: Chad Ford: Who's NBA execs' No. 1 draft pick?
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2013, 05:45:06 PM »

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Danny holds his cards tight to his vest when it comes to the draft.  No way he's talking about anything right now.  He's not quoted in that article.

He holds his cards tight when it comes to trade talk as well, it's the other franchises that leak the info.

I strongly disagree with this.  While I think Danny keeps the real information close, he LOVES to play the media to set up smoke screens, etc...and I have always suspected that Chad Ford is his favorite fiddle.

Oh, that's true.  But he isn't telling Ford which card he's playing.

Smokescreen is one thing, the real deal is another.

Brad Stevens, anyone ?

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« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2013, 06:03:43 PM »

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2 Parker = melo
3 Randle = amare + lamar odom
4 Exum = penny hardaway
5 Embiid =  not sure
6 Smart = Jason kidd
7 Gordon = josh Smith
8 Hezonja = manu ginobli
9 GRiii = iggy
10  Andrew Harrison = deron williams

Re: Chad Ford: Who's NBA execs' No. 1 draft pick?
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2013, 06:06:24 PM »

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Can people stop gushing about wiggins. He hasnt done nothing yet. His team is stacked with selden and ellis is an underrated prospect

Parker and randle have put up better numbers so far. Exum is an excellent prospect also. Nobody will really know who will be the best right now

What if kansas gets upset in the 1st round? Will ppl still go crazy about wiggins? 

I do see the potential in wiggins but he has ways to go in terms of shooting the ball better, passing better etc. Thus far he has mostly been relying on raw physical tools. That can only get you so far

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« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2013, 06:23:54 PM »

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Can people stop gushing about wiggins. He hasnt done nothing yet. His team is stacked with selden and ellis is an underrated prospect

Parker and randle have put up better numbers so far. Exum is an excellent prospect also. Nobody will really know who will be the best right now

What if kansas gets upset in the 1st round? Will ppl still go crazy about wiggins? 

I do see the potential in wiggins but he has ways to go in terms of shooting the ball better, passing better etc. Thus far he has mostly been relying on raw physical tools. That can only get you so far

Are you asking the scouts and GM's to stop gushing about him too?

Anyway, here's a great essay on Jabari Parker I read today:
http://theclassical.org/articles/the-truth-about-jabari
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Re: Chad Ford: Who's NBA execs' No. 1 draft pick?
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2013, 06:28:30 PM »

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Can people stop gushing about wiggins. He hasnt done nothing yet. His team is stacked with selden and ellis is an underrated prospect

Parker and randle have put up better numbers so far. Exum is an excellent prospect also. Nobody will really know who will be the best right now

What if kansas gets upset in the 1st round? Will ppl still go crazy about wiggins? 

I do see the potential in wiggins but he has ways to go in terms of shooting the ball better, passing better etc. Thus far he has mostly been relying on raw physical tools. That can only get you so far

It's not like Wiggins appeared out of thin air.  He's been known to the basketball world for years, and people are going off more than four early-season college basketball games to judge him.  And mind you, he hasn't done badly in those games.  Is he as refined as Parker?  No, but no one said he would be.  But I would argue that if LeBron's game is as refined as Paul Pierce's now, it wasn't until recently that it was so.  Despite this, he was the better basketball player long before that occurred.  And Randle's a beast, but he's 6'9" playing power forward in college, where a lot of teams will put out a 6'6" kid.  He'll have a physical mismatch almost every night out.  That won't happen in the NBA.  Doesn't mean he isn't a great prospect -- he is very much so.

Wiggins was rated the #1 high school player for a reason last year, and he's done nothing to show he shouldn't have been.

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« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2013, 06:28:55 PM »

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What if kansas gets upset in the 1st round? Will ppl still go crazy about wiggins? 

Kevin Durant got upset in the 2nd round and people still thought pretty highly of him.  And he had 3 future NBA guys on his team.  So most likely, yes.

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« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2013, 07:19:04 PM »

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Can people stop gushing about wiggins. He hasnt done nothing yet. His team is stacked with selden and ellis is an underrated prospect

Parker and randle have put up better numbers so far. Exum is an excellent prospect also. Nobody will really know who will be the best right now

What if kansas gets upset in the 1st round? Will ppl still go crazy about wiggins? 

I do see the potential in wiggins but he has ways to go in terms of shooting the ball better, passing better etc. Thus far he has mostly been relying on raw physical tools. That can only get you so far

It's not like Wiggins appeared out of thin air.  He's been known to the basketball world for years, and people are going off more than four early-season college basketball games to judge him.  And mind you, he hasn't done badly in those games.  Is he as refined as Parker?  No, but no one said he would be.  But I would argue that if LeBron's game is as refined as Paul Pierce's now, it wasn't until recently that it was so.  Despite this, he was the better basketball player long before that occurred.  And Randle's a beast, but he's 6'9" playing power forward in college, where a lot of teams will put out a 6'6" kid.  He'll have a physical mismatch almost every night out.  That won't happen in the NBA.  Doesn't mean he isn't a great prospect -- he is very much so.

Wiggins was rated the #1 high school player for a reason last year, and he's done nothing to show he shouldn't have been.

I see your pts but also consider

-Lebron even from his rookie year had excetional handles and passing skills(better than pp). His shot was his only weakpoint

Wiggins is even more raw than lebron was. Wiggins knows how to play but right now he is more gerald green than say grant hill

So he has ways to go. I know his first step to the basket is dazzling, but if you look past this for example, his game can improve. For example in the nba , teams dare him to shoot, how is he going to cope with this?? Can he create a pass to the open man like lebron at worse??  With parker u cant do this, even if he played in the nba today

 

Re: Chad Ford: Who's NBA execs' No. 1 draft pick?
« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2013, 07:51:55 PM »

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Can people stop gushing about wiggins. He hasnt done nothing yet. His team is stacked with selden and ellis is an underrated prospect

Parker and randle have put up better numbers so far. Exum is an excellent prospect also. Nobody will really know who will be the best right now

What if kansas gets upset in the 1st round? Will ppl still go crazy about wiggins? 

I do see the potential in wiggins but he has ways to go in terms of shooting the ball better, passing better etc. Thus far he has mostly been relying on raw physical tools. That can only get you so far

It's not like Wiggins appeared out of thin air.  He's been known to the basketball world for years, and people are going off more than four early-season college basketball games to judge him.  And mind you, he hasn't done badly in those games.  Is he as refined as Parker?  No, but no one said he would be.  But I would argue that if LeBron's game is as refined as Paul Pierce's now, it wasn't until recently that it was so.  Despite this, he was the better basketball player long before that occurred.  And Randle's a beast, but he's 6'9" playing power forward in college, where a lot of teams will put out a 6'6" kid.  He'll have a physical mismatch almost every night out.  That won't happen in the NBA.  Doesn't mean he isn't a great prospect -- he is very much so.

Wiggins was rated the #1 high school player for a reason last year, and he's done nothing to show he shouldn't have been.

I see your pts but also consider

-Lebron even from his rookie year had excetional handles and passing skills(better than pp). His shot was his only weakpoint

Wiggins is even more raw than lebron was. Wiggins knows how to play but right now he is more gerald green than say grant hill

So he has ways to go. I know his first step to the basket is dazzling, but if you look past this for example, his game can improve. For example in the nba , teams dare him to shoot, how is he going to cope with this?? Can he create a pass to the open man like lebron at worse??  With parker u cant do this, even if he played in the nba today

LeBron's handles are so good he gets away with 3 or 4 steps when he drives to the basket... I mean, his crab dribble is amazing. He's a good passer, but in no way his ballhandling is better than PP's. He can create space by shoving with his off-arm or lowering his shoulder, but his ability, as great as it is for a guy his size, isnt' nothing to rave if he was called like it is. Just like MJ, if you ask me.

Wiggins is raw, but he's not overrated. There's a trend of bashing the kid, his motor and his potential, but he'll still be #1. He'll do whatever is needed to win games, like against Duke, when he told his coach he wanted to guard Parker even with foul trouble, and his coach didn't grant his wish. Wiggins guarded Parker anyways, and Self had to admit that the kid was right. Wiggins has a long way to go with his development, but he has the character to compete while not "taking over" and chucking 30 shots. He even might not be a "go-to-guy", but he'll be a superstar. And when he's in the NBA, he'll get so many calls it's going to be ridiculous.

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« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2013, 08:04:06 PM »

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1 Wiggins = tmac
2 Parker = melo
3 Randle = amare + lamar odom
4 Exum = penny hardaway
5 Embiid =  not sure
6 Smart = Jason kidd
7 Gordon = josh Smith
8 Hezonja = manu ginobli
9 GRiii = iggy
10  Andrew Harrison = deron williams

Hey, if this is close to being "on the money", then I want Manu or Kidd.  Those two are proven winners who would do the necessary plays to win you a Championship.

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« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2013, 08:13:43 PM »

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Can people stop gushing about wiggins. He hasnt done nothing yet. His team is stacked with selden and ellis is an underrated prospect

Parker and randle have put up better numbers so far. Exum is an excellent prospect also. Nobody will really know who will be the best right now

What if kansas gets upset in the 1st round? Will ppl still go crazy about wiggins? 

I do see the potential in wiggins but he has ways to go in terms of shooting the ball better, passing better etc. Thus far he has mostly been relying on raw physical tools. That can only get you so far

Apparently you didn't see the game against Duke last week when he 22 / 10 while battling foul trouble....oh yea and his team won.  FYI....Kentucky is just as stacked as Kansas and probably more...

Re: Chad Ford: Who's NBA execs' No. 1 draft pick?
« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2013, 08:40:15 PM »

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Can people stop gushing about wiggins. He hasnt done nothing yet. His team is stacked with selden and ellis is an underrated prospect

Parker and randle have put up better numbers so far. Exum is an excellent prospect also. Nobody will really know who will be the best right now

What if kansas gets upset in the 1st round? Will ppl still go crazy about wiggins? 

I do see the potential in wiggins but he has ways to go in terms of shooting the ball better, passing better etc. Thus far he has mostly been relying on raw physical tools. That can only get you so far

Apparently you didn't see the game against Duke last week when he 22 / 10 while battling foul trouble....oh yea and his team won.  FYI....Kentucky is just as stacked as Kansas and probably more...

Yes i did. And why was he in foul trouble in the first place? What , thats not his fault either?

He can still improve and is not the "greatest" without playing in the nba