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Re: Knicks and Nuggets in trade talk to swap Shumpert for Faried
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2013, 03:11:56 PM »

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I like that trade for Denver. I think JJ Hickson replaces a good dose of Faried's contributions while Shumpert is a big upgrade at SG (a position where they are currently drowning).

Know who Denver could use? Arron Afflalo.

Can someone remind me what Denver got when Iguodala left for Golden State?

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Re: Knicks and Nuggets in trade talk to swap Shumpert for Faried
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2013, 03:12:09 PM »

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I don't like it so much for the Knicks though. I think Faried + Tyson will make life too difficult offensively for their teammates.
Yeah so much for shooting to space the floor for Melo.

I think you have to bring Faried off the bench when Chandler gets back.  Start Faried/Bargnani initially, then after Tyson returns move Melo to the 4 and bring in Faried with Bargs/Amare.   

Let him be a sparkplug big off the bench, it's probably his destiny anyway. Faried won't be effective enough unless he's got a floor-spacing C next to him.

I'd love to see San Antonio (Duncan) or Memphis (M.Gasol) make a run at Faried.

Faried could be really successful there.
Yeah he could.

Look at what Leon Powe was able to do next to KG. And Powe was Faried with less size and athleticism due to his many injuries.

Re: Knicks and Nuggets in trade talk to swap Shumpert for Faried
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2013, 03:21:16 PM »

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I like that trade for Denver. I think JJ Hickson replaces a good dose of Faried's contributions while Shumpert is a big upgrade at SG (a position where they are currently drowning).

Know who Denver could use? Arron Afflalo.

Can someone remind me what Denver got when Iguodala left for Golden State?

A jealous appreciation for salary cap wizardry?

Ah, and the immortal Randy Foye.

So, for a one-year rental of Iggy, they gave up a late 2013 2nd, Afflalo, and a 2014 1st, and then have nothing to show for it but Randy Foye. Wow.
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Re: Knicks and Nuggets in trade talk to swap Shumpert for Faried
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2013, 03:23:34 PM »

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I like that trade for Denver. I think JJ Hickson replaces a good dose of Faried's contributions while Shumpert is a big upgrade at SG (a position where they are currently drowning).

Know who Denver could use? Arron Afflalo.

Can someone remind me what Denver got when Iguodala left for Golden State?

A jealous appreciation for salary cap wizardry?

Ah, and the immortal Randy Foye.

So, for a one-year rental of Iggy, they gave up a late 2013 2nd, Afflalo, and a 2014 1st, and then have nothing to show for it but Randy Foye. Wow.

And they can hang a "Coach of the Year" banner.  Baby steps count when you've never made the Finals.

Re: Knicks and Nuggets in trade talk to swap Shumpert for Faried
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2013, 03:26:34 PM »

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I like that trade for Denver. I think JJ Hickson replaces a good dose of Faried's contributions while Shumpert is a big upgrade at SG (a position where they are currently drowning).

Know who Denver could use? Arron Afflalo.

Can someone remind me what Denver got when Iguodala left for Golden State?

A jealous appreciation for salary cap wizardry?

Ah, and the immortal Randy Foye.

So, for a one-year rental of Iggy, they gave up a late 2013 2nd, Afflalo, and a 2014 1st, and then have nothing to show for it but Randy Foye. Wow.

If I remember correctly the Dubs more or less pulled the cap space to sign Iggy out of thin air. Denver seemed to be relatively caught unawares.
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Re: Faried for Shumpert might happen. Can we trade for Faried?
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2013, 03:31:59 PM »

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So, Denver is tanking?  What would a tanking team want from the Celtics?
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Re: Faried for Shumpert might happen. Can we trade for Faried?
« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2013, 03:42:14 PM »

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So, Denver is tanking?  What would a tanking team want from the Celtics?
Picks.

They want picks from any Faried deal, sounds like they're ready to move on from him.

Re: Faried for Shumpert might happen. Can we trade for Faried?
« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2013, 03:47:21 PM »

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Fairied is great on his rookie deal, but I'm not sure he's a good fit as a long-term piece.  It's fine to be a one-dimensional player when you're the best in the league at your one dimension, but that means the team has to generally pay extra for players who excel at everything you don't (scoring and defense in Faried's case) and maybe aren't as good at rebounding.  Finding scoring defenders is an expensive proposition, and if your one dimensional rebounder takes up a larger portion of the salary cap, it can become burdensome.  The Nuggets would be wise to trade him now while he's still wanted, especially as they're going nowhere in one of his last cheap years.  Similarly, it's probably not the best fit for the C's, except for trading a similar one-dimensional player who's about to become expensive in Bradley.

Likewise, one can argue that Ainge should have looked to trade Bradley this past summer before he becomes more expensive next year.  Hopefully Bradley's jumper keeps going down so that he becomes a two-dimensional player and worth keeping long-term.

Re: Faried for Shumpert might happen. Can we trade for Faried?
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2013, 03:50:51 PM »

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why trade for another role player?

Re: Faried for Shumpert might happen. Can we trade for Faried?
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2013, 03:53:48 PM »

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Not a good sign for Faried that's for sure.
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Re: Faried for Shumpert might happen. Can we trade for Faried?
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2013, 03:57:46 PM »

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I would say that the Knicks should do this deal, but the Knicks are such a mess that I'm not sure how it will really help them. They'd be looking at a starting five of Felton, JR Smith, Melo, Faried, and Bargnani. That is not just a bad defensive team, but also a potentially self-destructive one. That's a bag of cats.

Re: Faried for Shumpert might happen. Can we trade for Faried?
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2013, 03:57:57 PM »

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So, Denver is tanking?  What would a tanking team want from the Celtics?
Picks.

They want picks from any Faried deal, sounds like they're ready to move on from him.

So, who wants to give up picks for a chance to pay Faried $10 million or more per year in the future?
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Re: Faried for Shumpert might happen. Can we trade for Faried?
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2013, 04:00:24 PM »

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So, Denver is tanking?  What would a tanking team want from the Celtics?
Picks.

They want picks from any Faried deal, sounds like they're ready to move on from him.

So, who wants to give up picks for a chance to pay Faried $10 million or more per year in the future?

At least a goldfish with a Lincoln Log on its back goin' across your floor to your sock drawer has a miraculous connotation to it.

Re: Faried for Shumpert might happen. Can we trade for Faried?
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2013, 04:03:54 PM »

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So, Denver is tanking?  What would a tanking team want from the Celtics?
Picks.

They want picks from any Faried deal, sounds like they're ready to move on from him.

So, who wants to give up picks for a chance to pay Faried $10 million or more per year in the future?



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Re: Faried for Shumpert might happen. Can we trade for Faried?
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2013, 04:04:11 PM »

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Makes sense to part with Shump, Knicks already got enough d, right?