Would you make this trade? (Avery Bradley trade)

[SHAQATTACK]

I don't trust Eric Gordon's health. I'd rather keep the 1st round pick and avoid paying Gordon all that money.

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[Who]

I don't trust Eric Gordon's health. I'd rather keep the 1st round pick and avoid paying Gordon all that money.

he's not Andrew Bynum or Greg Oden. If you don't trust his health, do you trust Rondo's health or Westbrook or Rose's health?

Gordon has played 107 out of the last 230 regular season games. Thats 3 years of a ton of missed games. And even when healthy back in his clipper days I didn't like his game. He was an undersized streaky scorer, who didn't play defense or have a very well rounded game. That not a guy I want to pay near max money to, or even half max money.

I thought Eric Gordon improved well throughout his stay in the Clippers.

He was a weak defender his first two or so years but gradually developed and became a plus defender. If not for his lack of size, he would be a standout defender. Tremendous lateral quickness and is highly effective in staying in front of dribble penetration. His lack of height and length is annoying but he is built strong at 220+lbs (unlike a Monta Ellis or OJ Mayo) which minimizes some of the downside in one-on-one scenarios (only a few players have strong enough post up games to take advantage .... main downside is his lack of length in team defense, particularly in closing out on shooters).

I also thought there was a big improvement in his ball-handling and passing. Once purely a scorer, towards the end of his Clippers days Eric Gordon turned himself into one of the better secondary playmakers and ball-handlers in the league. A top PnR threat.

A strong scoring package. Very good spot up shooter. Can get to the rim and finish. Draws foul. Very good in transition. Can shoot off the dribble. Capable of creating his own offense one on one.

The one area that he is still weak in and has shown no signs of improvement is rebounding. A very weak rebounder and likely always will be.

But the rest of his all-round game has developed well since his early years.

It is just a question of if he can stay healthy now. If he can, E.Gordon is a top 5 or top 7 SG.

[Mr October]

I don't trust Eric Gordon's health. I'd rather keep the 1st round pick and avoid paying Gordon all that money.

he's not Andrew Bynum or Greg Oden. If you don't trust his health, do you trust Rondo's health or Westbrook or Rose's health?

Gordon has played 107 out of the last 230 regular season games. Thats 3 years of a ton of missed games. And even when healthy back in his clipper days I didn't like his game. He was an undersized streaky scorer, who didn't play defense or have a very well rounded game. That not a guy I want to pay near max money to, or even half max money.

I thought Eric Gordon improved well throughout his stay in the Clippers.

He was a weak defender his first two or so years but gradually developed and became a plus defender. If not for his lack of size, he would be a standout defender. Tremendous lateral quickness and is highly effective in staying in front of dribble penetration. His lack of height and length is annoying but he is built strong at 220+lbs (unlike a Monta Ellis or OJ Mayo) which minimizes some of the downside in one-on-one scenarios (only a few players have strong enough post up games to take advantage .... main downside is his lack of length in team defense, particularly in closing out on shooters).

I also thought there was a big improvement in his ball-handling and passing. Once purely a scorer, towards the end of his Clippers days Eric Gordon turned himself into one of the better secondary playmakers and ball-handlers in the league. A top PnR threat.

A strong scoring package. Very good spot up shooter. Can get to the rim and finish. Draws foul. Very good in transition. Can shoot off the dribble. Capable of creating his own offense one on one.

The one area that he is still weak in and has shown no signs of improvement is rebounding. A very weak rebounder and likely always will be.

But the rest of his all-round game has developed well since his early years.

It is just a question of if he can stay healthy now. If he can, E.Gordon is a top 5 or top 7 SG.

It is true that he showed improvement during year 3. And he does play hard. I want to see if he is as good as he was during his 3rd year as a clipper, going forward.

I believe the shooting guard is the weakest position in the NBA. So when you say Gordon could be a top 5-7 shooting guard this season, that puts him in the category of an aging Joe Johnson, or Tyreke Evans, or a very old Manu Ginobili. That level of player is not worth 15 million per year to me. That kind of money is what you pay a cornerstone of your franchise.

Would you make that trade?

[clover]

Clover:

Humph 12 million
Bradley 2.5 million

14.5 million Total

Eric Gordon 14.2 million

So it works.

Thanks--I hadn't realized Gordon was that God-awful expensive.

[Who]

I don't trust Eric Gordon's health. I'd rather keep the 1st round pick and avoid paying Gordon all that money.

he's not Andrew Bynum or Greg Oden. If you don't trust his health, do you trust Rondo's health or Westbrook or Rose's health?

Gordon has played 107 out of the last 230 regular season games. Thats 3 years of a ton of missed games. And even when healthy back in his clipper days I didn't like his game. He was an undersized streaky scorer, who didn't play defense or have a very well rounded game. That not a guy I want to pay near max money to, or even half max money.

I thought Eric Gordon improved well throughout his stay in the Clippers.

He was a weak defender his first two or so years but gradually developed and became a plus defender. If not for his lack of size, he would be a standout defender. Tremendous lateral quickness and is highly effective in staying in front of dribble penetration. His lack of height and length is annoying but he is built strong at 220+lbs (unlike a Monta Ellis or OJ Mayo) which minimizes some of the downside in one-on-one scenarios (only a few players have strong enough post up games to take advantage .... main downside is his lack of length in team defense, particularly in closing out on shooters).

I also thought there was a big improvement in his ball-handling and passing. Once purely a scorer, towards the end of his Clippers days Eric Gordon turned himself into one of the better secondary playmakers and ball-handlers in the league. A top PnR threat.

A strong scoring package. Very good spot up shooter. Can get to the rim and finish. Draws foul. Very good in transition. Can shoot off the dribble. Capable of creating his own offense one on one.

The one area that he is still weak in and has shown no signs of improvement is rebounding. A very weak rebounder and likely always will be.

But the rest of his all-round game has developed well since his early years.

It is just a question of if he can stay healthy now. If he can, E.Gordon is a top 5 or top 7 SG.

It is true that he showed improvement during year 3. And he does play hard. I want to see if he is as good as he was during his 3rd year as a clipper, going forward.

I believe the shooting guard is the weakest position in the NBA. So when you say Gordon could be a top 5-7 shooting guard this season, that puts him in the category of an aging Joe Johnson, or Tyreke Evans, or a very old Manu Ginobili. That level of player is not worth 15 million per year to me. That kind of money is what you pay a cornerstone of your franchise.

Would you make that trade?

I don't think so. His lack of games in recent seasons scares me too much.

I think $15 million a year is fine for your third best player which is what I would consider Eric Gordon on a title contender. 

[aingeforthree]

I wouldn't make the trade.  Too much value on our end.

[Celtics4ever]

Pass, while I would not mind seeing us trade Humph, I don't mind Bradley at SG.   I think we are giving up too much for an injury prone player.

[slamtheking]

I have no problem trading Hump and Bradley but I'd want someone more durable/reliable than Gordan and for a cheaper and shorter contract.  The pick is a no go for me.

my point of view is we're helping NO out from his bad contract.  also, I wasn't particularly overwhelmed with him as an all-around player.  I'd want to see how he plays at least half the season before making a trade for him at the deadline (if it was under consideration)

[Moranis]

Why would New Orleans make this trade?

[Endless Paradise]

Why would New Orleans make this trade?

To get out of Gordon's contract, since it seems rather clear to me they intend on moving on with Jrue Holiday and Tyreke Evans.  I think a better question is why Boston would want to do that, at least now; Gordon has to prove he's capable of being a franchise talent, because otherwise, Boston's just saddling itself with even more money tied up in a player who's not worth it.

[Moranis]

Why would New Orleans make this trade?

To get out of Gordon's contract, since it seems rather clear to me they intend on moving on with Jrue Holiday and Tyreke Evans.  I think a better question is why Boston would want to do that, at least now; Gordon has to prove he's capable of being a franchise talent, because otherwise, Boston's just saddling itself with even more money tied up in a player who's not worth it.

Gordon is significantly better than Evans.  Evans was merely insurance for Gordon if he gets hurt again.  I fully expect a 3 man rotation of Holiday, Gordon, and Evans from them.  Phoenix was much more likely to make that trade, New Orleans not so much.

[clover]

Why would New Orleans make this trade?

To get out of Gordon's contract, since it seems rather clear to me they intend on moving on with Jrue Holiday and Tyreke Evans.  I think a better question is why Boston would want to do that, at least now; Gordon has to prove he's capable of being a franchise talent, because otherwise, Boston's just saddling itself with even more money tied up in a player who's not worth it.

Yep.

[chambers]

Two factors:

1) is this our own pick or one of the Nets picks?

2) This has to be done by the trade deadline this year so it ruins the strength of our own pick if Gordon and Rondo are both playing.

I'd say yes if it was a mid/late first rounder+Bradley and Rondo and Gordon could both rest/rehab slowly and play limited minutes. I mean we'd suck but that tandem with Green would win us an extra 10-15 games which we don't want.

It's also a lot of cash for an injury riddled young guy when we are trying to rebuild and avoid a Stoudemire situation.

If this is our own lottery pick in 14 or 15 then no way in hell.

[Endless Paradise]

Why would New Orleans make this trade?

To get out of Gordon's contract, since it seems rather clear to me they intend on moving on with Jrue Holiday and Tyreke Evans.  I think a better question is why Boston would want to do that, at least now; Gordon has to prove he's capable of being a franchise talent, because otherwise, Boston's just saddling itself with even more money tied up in a player who's not worth it.

Gordon is significantly better than Evans.  Evans was merely insurance for Gordon if he gets hurt again.  I fully expect a 3 man rotation of Holiday, Gordon, and Evans from them.  Phoenix was much more likely to make that trade, New Orleans not so much.

Gordon may be significantly better, but he's played a grand total of 107 out of 230 regular season games since 2010.  For what he's making ($14+ million), he's not worth it (to either NO or Boston) until he shows he can stay on the court consistently.

NO is paying Evans $11 million: they did not pay him that much to be "merely insurance" as a long-term sixth man, especially not when Jrue Holiday is making $9.21 million ($11 million in his last year) and Gordon $14.28 million.  That's almost $45 million wrapped up in three natural guards, neither of whom are the team's best player - Anthony Davis - who will eventually be due for an extension.  One of those guys is the odd-man out, and signs point to it being Gordon.

[PhoSita]

Not a chance.