I expect them to go hard after Gordon Hayward this offseason , then go back to Bradley if it doesn't work out.

Well if Hayward is the consolation for loosing AB then I'm all for it

Quote from: Evantime34 on November 01, 2013, 08:57:56 AM

I expect them to go hard after Gordon Hayward this offseason , then go back to Bradley if it doesn't work out.

The C's will have the TE and what around 6+ million of room under the salary cap? Plus whatever salary their draft pick is slotted to get.

The C's will have to make additional salary moves to make a run at high level FAs.

Yeah, the TE would probably be irrelevant in a chase for Hayward, who will be looking for something over $10 million per year, if Utah won't match.

But I do think Danny is going to work hard to dump salary this year if he can.  Wallace, Lee and Bass will all be available for expiring contracts, and Green may be too (although he would require more of a premium).

I don't really think there is a connection between Bradley and Hayward though.  Bradley wasn't signed, because he is still too unproven to warrant what his agent would ask for.

Quote from: Fafnir on November 01, 2013, 09:02:04 AM

Quote from: Evantime34 on November 01, 2013, 08:57:56 AM

I expect them to go hard after Gordon Hayward this offseason , then go back to Bradley if it doesn't work out.

The C's will have the TE and what around 6+ million of room under the salary cap? Plus whatever salary their draft pick is slotted to get.

The C's will have to make additional salary moves to make a run at high level FAs.

Yeah, the TE would probably be irrelevant in a chase for Hayward, who will be looking for something over $10 million per year, if Utah won't match.

But I do think Danny is going to work hard to dump salary this year if he can.  Wallace, Lee and Bass will all be available for expiring contracts, and Green may be too (although he would require more of a premium).

I don't really think there is a connection between Bradley and Hayward though.  Bradley wasn't signed, because he is still too unproven to warrant what his agent would ask for.

Remember, we have to be over the cap to have the trade exception. So if we do open cap space this offseason, we lose the TE.

This means 3 possibilities:
1. Open capspace, use that, but lose the TE.
2. Use the TE this year/this offseason for someone useful longterm, while patiently opening capspace in the next couple years after using the TE to acquire a useful player.
3. Use the TE this year to absorb expiring salary (plus an incentive asset, i.e. a pick) from a team that needs to get below the tax. Then let that contract expire and trade our long term deals for other expirings to just open capspace this offseason while essentially using the TE to "buy" a pick by taking an expiring deal to relieve another team's tax.

Quote from: Fan from VT on November 01, 2013, 09:13:56 AM

Quote from: Chris on November 01, 2013, 09:06:22 AM

Quote from: Fafnir on November 01, 2013, 09:02:04 AM

Quote from: Evantime34 on November 01, 2013, 08:57:56 AM

I expect them to go hard after Gordon Hayward this offseason , then go back to Bradley if it doesn't work out.

The C's will have the TE and what around 6+ million of room under the salary cap? Plus whatever salary their draft pick is slotted to get.

The C's will have to make additional salary moves to make a run at high level FAs.

Yeah, the TE would probably be irrelevant in a chase for Hayward, who will be looking for something over $10 million per year, if Utah won't match.

But I do think Danny is going to work hard to dump salary this year if he can.  Wallace, Lee and Bass will all be available for expiring contracts, and Green may be too (although he would require more of a premium).

I don't really think there is a connection between Bradley and Hayward though.  Bradley wasn't signed, because he is still too unproven to warrant what his agent would ask for.

Remember, we have to be over the cap to have the trade exception. So if we do open cap space this offseason, we lose the TE.

This means 3 possibilities:
1. Open capspace, use that, but lose the TE.
2. Use the TE this year/this offseason for someone useful longterm, while patiently opening capspace in the next couple years after using the TE to acquire a useful player.
3. Use the TE this year to absorb expiring salary (plus an incentive asset, i.e. a pick) from a team that needs to get below the tax. Then let that contract expire and trade our long term deals for other expirings to just open capspace this offseason while essentially using the TE to "buy" a pick by taking an expiring deal to relieve another team's tax.

3. Is extremely unlikely as we'd have to be offered an absolutely amazing asset to use the TE that would result in us going into the luxury tax. Next season I can see us being used as a salary dump.

Staying above the cap is easy, we'd only drop below if we had concrete use for the space.

Well, here is an interesting scenario.

We use the TE to get an expiring contract from another team that needs to cut salary, and pick up a late first rounder in that process.

Use that first rounder to then entice a team to take on Gerald Wallace's contract for an expiring contract. 

I think Bradley is severely underrated because they put him at pg.  It's not Avery's fault that Rondo got hurt.  Name me one other 22 year old that gives D Wade nightmares.  I'd like to give D Wade nightmares for a loooonnnggg time.   He needs like 12 mins a game at pg and 24 at sg.   He should back up both positions and get a ton of time.

He's a young game changer. Not many of those around.   And when he leaves and the defense goes off a cliff just remember for an extra million or so you coulda had him for years. But someone got stingy.

Bradley is a restricted free agent.  It is very likely that a team that loves him won't be able to offer more than a full MLE contract.  Bradley should be asking for more than that.  Ainge should be offering less than that.  It doesn't make sense for either side to do a deal unless Bradley is concerned that his future value has a good chance of being killed by injury or Ainge is sure that Bradley will turn into the kind of player that teams clear cap space to sign for $10m/year.

Bradley is a restricted free agent.  It is very likely that a team that loves him won't be able to offer more than a full MLE contract.  Bradley should be asking for more than that.  Ainge should be offering less than that.  It doesn't make sense for either side to do a deal unless Bradley is concerned that his future value has a good chance of being killed by injury or Ainge is sure that Bradley will turn into the kind of player that teams clear cap space to sign for $10m/year.

Yup/