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Great Ainge Article
« on: October 30, 2013, 02:06:57 PM »

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Not sure if its been posted yet.

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/article/2013/10/29/danny-ainge-boston-celtics/

I wouldn't want any other running this organization.  He's going to right this ship again, just like he did for #17.

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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2013, 02:47:20 PM »

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The Celtics are going to be dreadful this year.  Likely one of the 8 worst teams in the league.  It's going to be terrible to watch... but I'm 100% in support of Ainge.  I wouldn't want anyone else leading this team.  I'm a huge fan.  He knows what he's doing.

As we start this new season... the sad part is the realization that probably none of the guys on this squad will be here when Boston eventually makes the playoffs again.  Hard to get that excited when it's clear the entire team is composed of trade chips and sitting ducks.  Just gotta sit back and enjoy the journey. 

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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2013, 03:06:30 PM »

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TP for posting. Solid read.
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2013, 03:14:21 PM »

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Ainge still holds the Blue Jays franchise record for youngest player to hit a home run.

He hit two in his career.

Here's hoping Ainge hits more home runs as a basketball GM.

And it really is a terrific article. Great quotes, illuminating insights into Ainge's personal history/character. TP for sharing.
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2013, 03:15:24 PM »

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The Celtics are going to be dreadful this year.  Likely one of the 8 worst teams in the league.  It's going to be terrible to watch... but I'm 100% in support of Ainge.  I wouldn't want anyone else leading this team.  I'm a huge fan.  He knows what he's doing.

As we start this new season... the sad part is the realization that probably none of the guys on this squad will be here when Boston eventually makes the playoffs again.  Hard to get that excited when it's clear the entire team is composed of trade chips and sitting ducks.  Just gotta sit back and enjoy the journey.

He's got that 3-5 year plan that takes patience.  So, we just gotta sit back, develop the youth, and see who to keep when its time to make that run at #18.

It's the right way to do it though.  Regardless of the suffering we'll feel this year & next.

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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2013, 03:19:23 PM »

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For what it's worth, I was in NYC a couple weeks back and got nothing but understanding (and cautious) sympathy from the Nets and Knicks fans. There's a pretty universal sentiment that even though our outlook is looking pretty bleak, DA is not to be underestimated.
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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2013, 03:34:17 PM »

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He's got that 3-5 year plan that takes patience.

I don't think he's committed to a 3-5 year plan.  I think he's flexible.  If a disgruntled star in a bad situation becomes available mid-season as his team is in free-fall and shifting into tank mode, I think Ainge will shift gears and try to acquire that player, so long as the price isn't too high and his stat geeks tell him the player is worth it.

The one thing I feel confident about regarding Ainge's approach is that he will try to "win" any trade he makes and get more value coming back than he sends out.  People may disagree with how he values assets and he may make a puzzling sideways trade motivated more by being able to offer different configurations of assets in potential deals than by trying to increase value, but I think he's too patient to make the sort of panic trade for the sake of doing a deal that fanbases often clamor for when they hate how their team is going.
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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2013, 03:42:03 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2013, 05:11:30 PM »

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He's got that 3-5 year plan that takes patience.

I don't think he's committed to a 3-5 year plan.  I think he's flexible.  If a disgruntled star in a bad situation becomes available mid-season as his team is in free-fall and shifting into tank mode, I think Ainge will shift gears and try to acquire that player, so long as the price isn't too high and his stat geeks tell him the player is worth it.

The one thing I feel confident about regarding Ainge's approach is that he will try to "win" any trade he makes and get more value coming back than he sends out.  People may disagree with how he values assets and he may make a puzzling sideways trade motivated more by being able to offer different configurations of assets in potential deals than by trying to increase value, but I think he's too patient to make the sort of panic trade for the sake of doing a deal that fanbases often clamor for when they hate how their team is going.

Oh, definitely. He's more than flexible.  It's the new CBA that isn't.  That's why I think it will turn out to be 3-5 years just based on the CBA prohibiting him from getting anybody of worth.

The first shoe will drop come next years draft.  Hit on one or two youngsters there, & let the expiring contracts go along their marry way, and sign up a Vet when possible.

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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2013, 05:26:46 PM »

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He's got that 3-5 year plan that takes patience.

I don't think he's committed to a 3-5 year plan.  I think he's flexible.  If a disgruntled star in a bad situation becomes available mid-season as his team is in free-fall and shifting into tank mode, I think Ainge will shift gears and try to acquire that player, so long as the price isn't too high and his stat geeks tell him the player is worth it.

The one thing I feel confident about regarding Ainge's approach is that he will try to "win" any trade he makes and get more value coming back than he sends out.  People may disagree with how he values assets and he may make a puzzling sideways trade motivated more by being able to offer different configurations of assets in potential deals than by trying to increase value, but I think he's too patient to make the sort of panic trade for the sake of doing a deal that fanbases often clamor for when they hate how their team is going.

Oh, definitely. He's more than flexible.  It's the new CBA that isn't.  That's why I think it will turn out to be 3-5 years just based on the CBA prohibiting him from getting anybody of worth.

The first shoe will drop come next years draft.  Hit on one or two youngsters there, & let the expiring contracts go along their marry way, and sign up a Vet when possible.

I have a feeling that the new CBA will lead to some team in luxury tax hell willing to blow things up and deal an aging star player.  I don't know which player and which team, but that could happen in the middle of this season or could happen a couple of years down the line.  I think there are a few guys who Ainge likes enough that the Celtics 2014 pick will be in play as a potential trade asset before the season is over if they miraculously become available.
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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2013, 06:01:47 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2013, 06:05:29 PM »

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He's got that 3-5 year plan that takes patience.

I don't think he's committed to a 3-5 year plan.  I think he's flexible.  If a disgruntled star in a bad situation becomes available mid-season as his team is in free-fall and shifting into tank mode, I think Ainge will shift gears and try to acquire that player, so long as the price isn't too high and his stat geeks tell him the player is worth it.

The one thing I feel confident about regarding Ainge's approach is that he will try to "win" any trade he makes and get more value coming back than he sends out.  People may disagree with how he values assets and he may make a puzzling sideways trade motivated more by being able to offer different configurations of assets in potential deals than by trying to increase value, but I think he's too patient to make the sort of panic trade for the sake of doing a deal that fanbases often clamor for when they hate how their team is going.

Oh, definitely. He's more than flexible.  It's the new CBA that isn't.  That's why I think it will turn out to be 3-5 years just based on the CBA prohibiting him from getting anybody of worth.

The first shoe will drop come next years draft.  Hit on one or two youngsters there, & let the expiring contracts go along their marry way, and sign up a Vet when possible.

I have a feeling that the new CBA will lead to some team in luxury tax hell willing to blow things up and deal an aging star player.  I don't know which player and which team, but that could happen in the middle of this season or could happen a couple of years down the line.  I think there are a few guys who Ainge likes enough that the Celtics 2014 pick will be in play as a potential trade asset before the season is over if they miraculously become available.

I'm on board with that as well.  The picks in 14' are definitely in play, Ray Allen style.

If he hits on Olynyk, Pressey, & Faverani early (or just even 1 really), it's going to be a fun ride the next couple of years.  Lots of assets and weapons at Ainge's disposal going forward that he can ultimately pair with some talent that stays.