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Re: Forget the "Bradley experiment", Pressey should be running this team
« Reply #30 on: October 24, 2013, 04:41:16 PM »

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True.....So far the only time the Celtics can put back to back series of plays on both ends of the court is with Pressey at the point . 

Pressey and KO understand how to play offense , and are learning defense .

AB does good when he is  NOT the primary ball handler,  he is sneaky and makes good plays in other way for the team.

Rather have had Barbosa back and dump Crawford.

These college kids are used to having a point guard initiate the offense set.......AB does not look confident doing that role at all.    He has a score first process .

As much as last years squad could play without Rondo,  this years rookie  squad  needs a serious floor general out there All THE TIME.

I is still painfully obvious when our 7 ft. kO or Hombre exit the game , the bottom falls out.

There needs to be  TRUE center presence on the court  ALL the time........we are not the blanks blank. Heat

Fire Brooks and Crawford AsAP ........just get rid of them.    Period.

Re: Forget the "Bradley experiment", Pressey should be running this team
« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2013, 10:26:07 AM »

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Pressey is good as a backup. He has to get more consistent as a shooter first to be able to start
Pressey may be a good backup, but Bradley is a horrible starter.

Bradley is not a PG.  He's a SG in a PG's body.  We need to accept this and move on.  I think Stevens is still tinkering with his lineup just to see what works and what doesn't.

Re: Forget the "Bradley experiment", Pressey should be running this team
« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2013, 11:56:21 AM »

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True.....So far the only time the Celtics can put back to back series of plays on both ends of the court is with Pressey at the point . 

Pressey and KO understand how to play offense , and are learning defense .

AB does good when he is  NOT the primary ball handler,  he is sneaky and makes good plays in other way for the team.

Rather have had Barbosa back and dump Crawford.

These college kids are used to having a point guard initiate the offense set.......AB does not look confident doing that role at all.    He has a score first process .

As much as last years squad could play without Rondo,  this years rookie  squad  needs a serious floor general out there All THE TIME.

I is still painfully obvious when our 7 ft. kO or Hombre exit the game , the bottom falls out.

There needs to be  TRUE center presence on the court  ALL the time........we are not the blanks blank. Heat

Fire Brooks and Crawford AsAP ........just get rid of them.    Period.

I'd much rather have the tandem of Crawford and Brookes than Barbosa. The problem is that Crawford's only looking to pass if he sees an open man between him and the basket, and Brookes has seemed incredibly nervous on the floor.

It's possible those problems are correctable.
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Re: Forget the "Bradley experiment", Pressey should be running this team
« Reply #33 on: October 25, 2013, 12:28:37 PM »

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I'd much rather have the tandem of Crawford and Brookes than Barbosa. The problem is that Crawford's only looking to pass if he sees an open man between him and the basket, and Brookes has seemed incredibly nervous on the floor.

It's possible those problems are correctable.

How many players have you seen correct this problem?
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Re: Forget the "Bradley experiment", Pressey should be running this team
« Reply #34 on: October 26, 2013, 04:45:53 AM »

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I'd much rather have the tandem of Crawford and Brookes than Barbosa. The problem is that Crawford's only looking to pass if he sees an open man between him and the basket, and Brookes has seemed incredibly nervous on the floor.

It's possible those problems are correctable.

How many players have you seen correct this problem?

That's not a fair characterization of Crawford.  His career assist percentage is 21, which is excellent for an off-guard.  His biggest problem is shot selection because he seems in love with flash and degree of difficulty.  It overshadows just how good a playmaker he really is.

Re: Forget the "Bradley experiment", Pressey should be running this team
« Reply #35 on: October 26, 2013, 04:48:38 AM »

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I'd much rather have the tandem of Crawford and Brookes than Barbosa. The problem is that Crawford's only looking to pass if he sees an open man between him and the basket, and Brookes has seemed incredibly nervous on the floor.

It's possible those problems are correctable.

How many players have you seen correct this problem?

That's not a fair characterization of Crawford.  His career assist percentage is 21, which is excellent for an off-guard.  His biggest problem is shot selection because he seems in love with flash and degree of difficulty.  It overshadows just how good a playmaker he really is.

Would you accept the question: How many chuckers stop being chuckers?
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Re: Forget the "Bradley experiment", Pressey should be running this team
« Reply #36 on: October 26, 2013, 05:33:53 AM »

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I'd much rather have the tandem of Crawford and Brookes than Barbosa. The problem is that Crawford's only looking to pass if he sees an open man between him and the basket, and Brookes has seemed incredibly nervous on the floor.

It's possible those problems are correctable.

How many players have you seen correct this problem?

That's not a fair characterization of Crawford.  His career assist percentage is 21, which is excellent for an off-guard.  His biggest problem is shot selection because he seems in love with flash and degree of difficulty.  It overshadows just how good a playmaker he really is.

Would you accept the question: How many chuckers stop being chuckers?

But your question to D.o.s was whether he can correct the problem of being mostly a black hole.  My response was that he only looks like a black hole because he takes too many tough shots when he's actually a very willing and talented passer. 

In the preseason anyway, it seemed like he was taking fewer long-2s, which is the staple shot of chuckers but he was still overdoing the degree of difficulty on threes by shooting them about 3 feet beyond the line. 

As to your question, I think it's possible because he wasn't a full-blown chucker anyway. 

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« Reply #37 on: October 26, 2013, 10:59:03 AM »

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I don't think Crawford takes this game seriously enough.

If I were in charge I would dump Crawford and Lee. JC,in my opinion, takes way too many shots and Lee, for some reason, just doesn't look like he gets where Stevens is going and I don't really care for his shot selection either.

Pressey and Faverani must both make this roster or something is seriously wrong. I like Vitor starting at center, the only drawback being the officials, because he's a rookie, killing him with a ton of penalties.
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Re: Forget the "Bradley experiment", Pressey should be running this team
« Reply #38 on: October 26, 2013, 10:25:24 PM »

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I'd much rather have the tandem of Crawford and Brookes than Barbosa. The problem is that Crawford's only looking to pass if he sees an open man between him and the basket, and Brookes has seemed incredibly nervous on the floor.

It's possible those problems are correctable.

How many players have you seen correct this problem?
How many players have we seen meet that description and yet have no problem making it in the league?  Would Carmelo be the best scorer in the game if he corrected that "problem?"

"Chucking" itself isn't a problem, the problem is missing shots.  Chuckers who make a good percentage of their shots are also known as amazing players.  Those who don't, can't find a team.  Just because poor shot selection isn't commonly improved, that doesn't mean it automatically can't end in success.
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Re: Forget the "Bradley experiment", Pressey should be running this team
« Reply #39 on: October 26, 2013, 10:39:47 PM »

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I'd much rather have the tandem of Crawford and Brookes than Barbosa. The problem is that Crawford's only looking to pass if he sees an open man between him and the basket, and Brookes has seemed incredibly nervous on the floor.

It's possible those problems are correctable.

How many players have you seen correct this problem?
How many players have we seen meet that description and yet have no problem making it in the league?  Would Carmelo be the best scorer in the game if he corrected that "problem?"

"Chucking" itself isn't a problem, the problem is missing shots.  Chuckers who make a good percentage of their shots are also known as amazing players.  Those who don't, can't find a team.  Just because poor shot selection isn't commonly improved, that doesn't mean it automatically can't end in success.

If they made a good percentage of their shots, they'd be shooters, not chuckers.
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Re: Forget the "Bradley experiment", Pressey should be running this team
« Reply #40 on: October 26, 2013, 11:15:05 PM »

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Pressey is good as a backup. He has to get more consistent as a shooter first to be able to start
Pressey may be a good backup, but Bradley is a horrible starter.

Good point, the experiment at the point has run its course.  I also think starting Bass and Sully should be banned from the league.

I don't think Bradley is a horrible starter, I think he is a great starter...just not when he is handling the ball. I want to see Pressey starting as PG until Rondo comes back and Bradley goes back to his old self, defending and cutting...I do not want to see Bradley play point...ever!
So Rondo should guard SGs full time?! Nah, this isn't going to work.

Bradley can be a great change of tempo player to have on the bench. But unless your starting PG is a 6'4 or taller, he has no business starting.

edit: Sorry, this came not entirely coherent -- the basic premise is that he isn't that good when put off the ball on defense, so it's hard to justify playing him.

Yeah, Bradley isn't that good playing off the ball defense.  He wasn't top the in the entire league last year in fewest opponent points allowed, and the previous season he did not at all have one of the best defensive ratings in the entire NBA.  He didn't just make the all-defensive second team either.

The guy just dicks at defending opposing SG's... ::)

Re: Forget the "Bradley experiment", Pressey should be running this team
« Reply #41 on: October 27, 2013, 12:40:48 AM »

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« Reply #42 on: October 27, 2013, 12:49:42 AM »

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Re: Forget the "Bradley experiment", BASS should be running this team

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I've always been a glass half full kind of guy.

Maybe Bass's career 0.000001 assists per game is just untapped potential. Let's DO IT.

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« Reply #43 on: October 27, 2013, 12:55:08 AM »

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I've always been a glass half full kind of guy.

Maybe Bass's career 0.000001 assists per game is just untapped potential. Let's DO IT.


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