trade idea:humphries, ab, protected 1st for perkins and reggie jackson

[action781]

Its not that the trade is unfair, it just doesn't seem to fit. Why would OKC trade away their backup PG when their starting PG is coming off surgery?  Why would a win-now team trade a win-now piece for a future draft pick... and why would the rebuilding team want part in that swap too?

[Fafnir]

Its not that the trade is unfair, it just doesn't seem to fit. Why would OKC trade away their backup PG when their starting PG is coming off surgery?  Why would a win-now team trade a win-now piece for a future draft pick... and why would the rebuilding team want part in that swap too?

Plus if OKC doesn't want to pay Jackson and he has trade value they'll wait till he's due an extension to move him, ala Bledsoe.

Too early for him to be shopped right now, not unless they're going for a big move and getting a bigger talent back.

[jyyzzoel]

This is the most ridiculous trade I've seen on celticsblog probably ever. Perk is no longer perk. Last season he had the worst per in the playoffs of any player ever. Reggie Jackson is a backup point guard.

A protected first? Avery who has value on his contract, and one of the biggest expiring contracts in the league... Not to mention perk has the worst contract in the whole league... Are you a laker fan? Wait, are you david Kahn? This is the worst suggested trade I have ever seen... By far.

[Fafnir]

jyzzoel your post isn't acceptable behavior on CBlog. See below for a more detailed explanation, but attacking another fan's "fanhood" and "worst ever" are the key violations.

You could express your opinion of the trade without being disrespectful to the OP. Many other posters have after all.

This is your warning, future violations will involve discipline.

The rules also incorporate these announcements, if it wasn't already clear:

Lately, there have been way to many posts along the following lines:

This is a dumb thread . . .

I wish I could give this thread negative Tommy Points . . .

Do you even watch the games?  I'm surprised a real fan would say that . . .

Worst trade idea ever . . .

This thread is a massive FAIL . . .

The above are examples, because I didn't want to signal anybody out individually.  However, statements like those above violate our rules, because they're inherently disrespectful and devolve debate.

I'm sure every single one of us has come across a thread before and thought "What the heck is this idiot talking about?"  It's fine to think that, but when choosing whether or not to post in the thread, please use discretion.  Basically, follow the "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" rule.

It's very possible to debate without belittling or mocking others.  There are going to be times when we all vigorously disagree with others.  That's completely fine, just please remember that when debating, things have to remain civil.

Basically, we don't want to have people leaving here with their feelings hurt.  Let's all remember that we're on the same side here.

[jyyzzoel]

jyzzoel your post isn't acceptable behavior on CBlog. See below for a more detailed explanation, but attacking another fan's "fanhood" and "worst ever" are the key violations.

You could express your opinion of the trade without being disrespectful to the OP. Many other posters have after all.

This is your warning, future violations will involve discipline.

The rules also incorporate these announcements, if it wasn't already clear:

Lately, there have been way to many posts along the following lines:

This is a dumb thread . . .

I wish I could give this thread negative Tommy Points . . .

Do you even watch the games?  I'm surprised a real fan would say that . . .

Worst trade idea ever . . .

This thread is a massive FAIL . . .

The above are examples, because I didn't want to signal anybody out individually.  However, statements like those above violate our rules, because they're inherently disrespectful and devolve debate.

I'm sure every single one of us has come across a thread before and thought "What the heck is this idiot talking about?"  It's fine to think that, but when choosing whether or not to post in the thread, please use discretion.  Basically, follow the "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" rule.

It's very possible to debate without belittling or mocking others.  There are going to be times when we all vigorously disagree with others.  That's completely fine, just please remember that when debating, things have to remain civil.

Basically, we don't want to have people leaving here with their feelings hurt.  Let's all remember that we're on the same side here.

No problem. Noted.

[Tr1boy]

Its going to take a little more to get jackson.  Okc is in driver seat with this deal imo. But some ppl here think the celts would be overpaying.

I just want to ask for those that think the celts is overpaying. Who can we get with hump, ab and protected 1st. Cousins? Aldridge?gordon? ... Id love to hear a realistic answer.

[Lucky17]

Its going to take a little more to get jackson.  Okc is in driver seat with this deal imo. But some ppl here think the celts would be overpaying.

I just want to ask for those that think the celts is overpaying. Who can we get with hump, ab and protected 1st. Cousins? Aldridge?gordon? ... Id love to hear a realistic answer.

Not sure. Maybe an expiring contract, a defensive specialist, and a protected (i.e., a non 2014) 1st rounder might get Eric Gordon, but I suspect NO would want a little more.

[Fafnir]

Its going to take a little more to get jackson.  Okc is in driver seat with this deal imo. But some ppl here think the celts would be overpaying.

I just want to ask for those that think the celts is overpaying. Who can we get with hump, ab and protected 1st. Cousins? Aldridge?gordon? ... Id love to hear a realistic answer.

Not sure. Maybe an expiring contract, a defensive specialist, and a protected (i.e., a non 2014) 1st rounder might get Eric Gordon, but I suspect NO would want a little more.

Maybe nothing, not every trade package makes sense to get dealt even as the individual pieces certainly have value.

Just because a lot of us don't think your package makes sense doesn't mean there is one that makes sense out there. It certainly doesn't obligate us to construct an alternate.

[LooseCannon]

I just want to ask for those that think the celts is overpaying. Who can we get with hump, ab and protected 1st. Cousins? Aldridge?gordon? ... Id love to hear a realistic answer.

I see no point in trading a protected first to get players who won't form part of the team's future core.  Sometimes, the correct option is to stand pat and not make a trade now, waiting for later and possibly ending up using that pick to draft a player.

I want to hoard those first round picks in the hopes of acquiring the sort of player where the Celtics might have to send out a package such as Sullinger, two or three first round picks, and matching salary.  If the right player becomes available, the team has a shot at being one of the top four teams in the East in 2014-2015.

[Tr1boy]

Its going to take a little more to get jackson.  Okc is in driver seat with this deal imo. But some ppl here think the celts would be overpaying.

I just want to ask for those that think the celts is overpaying. Who can we get with hump, ab and protected 1st. Cousins? Aldridge?gordon? ... Id love to hear a realistic answer.

Not sure. Maybe an expiring contract, a defensive specialist, and a protected (i.e., a non 2014) 1st rounder might get Eric Gordon, but I suspect NO would want a little more.

Alot more. Some CB fans here are not realistic imo. Expect so much its not real.

[LooseCannon]

I've banged the "let's help OKC to get Gortat or Asik by taking on Perk's horrible deal" drum for weeks.

It makes more sense to me to look for a deal that has the Celtics being the team to acquire Gortat or Asik rather than taking on Perk's salary so that OKC can get better.

[D.o.s.]

Its going to take a little more to get jackson.  Okc is in driver seat with this deal imo. But some ppl here think the celts would be overpaying.

I just want to ask for those that think the celts is overpaying. Who can we get with hump, ab and protected 1st. Cousins? Aldridge?gordon? ... Id love to hear a realistic answer.

The Celtics are overpaying because they're sending the pieces that are worth the most on the open market and taking back the refuse.

[Tr1boy]

Its going to take a little more to get jackson.  Okc is in driver seat with this deal imo. But some ppl here think the celts would be overpaying.

I just want to ask for those that think the celts is overpaying. Who can we get with hump, ab and protected 1st. Cousins? Aldridge?gordon? ... Id love to hear a realistic answer.

The Celtics are overpaying because they're sending the pieces that are worth the most on the open market and taking back the refuse.

But really what is hump, ab and late 1st going to get you back?? Dion waiters?? Bradley beal?? The answer is no. The best you can get back is a bad contract coupled with a decent 1st or prospect from a contending team. Usually these team dont have a decent mid 1st round pick anyways.

So thats why for me you overpay a little but hope jackson turns into something special. Like some have said okc would be in the driver seat in this deal. Bc they have little to no reason to give up on jackson
 Thats where the overpay comes in my proposal to entice

[D.o.s.]

Its going to take a little more to get jackson.  Okc is in driver seat with this deal imo. But some ppl here think the celts would be overpaying.

I just want to ask for those that think the celts is overpaying. Who can we get with hump, ab and protected 1st. Cousins? Aldridge?gordon? ... Id love to hear a realistic answer.

The Celtics are overpaying because they're sending the pieces that are worth the most on the open market and taking back the refuse.

But really what is hump, ab and late 1st going to get you back?? Dion waiters?? Bradley beal?? The answer is no. The best you can get back is a bad contract coupled with a decent 1st or prospect from a contending team. Usually these team dont have a decent mid 1st round pick anyways.

So thats why for me you overpay a little but hope jackson turns into something special. Like some have said okc would be in the driver seat in this deal. Bc they have little to no reason to give up on jackson
 Thats where the overpay comes in my proposal to entice

Clearly you're higher on Reggie Jackson than I am.

Also, I'm not sure where the "late 1st" came from. I don't think you qualified the protections at all.

Now, if you wanted to go with Bradley + Humphries for Jackson, Perk, and an OKC first rounder, that seems much more equitable. We're still getting them out of Perk's contract and replacing that albatross with an expiring and a prospect.

To your original proposal, though, I think that "overpaying a little" is a generous assessment.

[More Banners]

Its going to take a little more to get jackson.  Okc is in driver seat with this deal imo. But some ppl here think the celts would be overpaying.

I just want to ask for those that think the celts is overpaying. Who can we get with hump, ab and protected 1st. Cousins? Aldridge?gordon? ... Id love to hear a realistic answer.

The Celtics are overpaying because they're sending the pieces that are worth the most on the open market and taking back the refuse.

But really what is hump, ab and late 1st going to get you back?? Dion waiters?? Bradley beal?? The answer is no. The best you can get back is a bad contract coupled with a decent 1st or prospect from a contending team. Usually these team dont have a decent mid 1st round pick anyways.

So thats why for me you overpay a little but hope jackson turns into something special. Like some have said okc would be in the driver seat in this deal. Bc they have little to no reason to give up on jackson
 Thats where the overpay comes in my proposal to entice

I'd consider taking back Perk just to have through rebuilding to push the other guys.  He's one of those character guys that also fills a positional need and happens to be best buds with our only star.

He, Wallace, and Rondo could work well with Sully/Olynyk at the 4 and Bradley/Crawford/Brooks at the 2.  It would probably help them develop, too.

No need to give up a pick, though.  I'd look to offer Lee and Hump, or Bogans and Bass:  one expiring, one with a couple of years, all spare parts, and take back a fan fav.