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Re: Houston vs Indiana live in Manila...the Rockets are so loaded
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2013, 02:58:18 PM »

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Also Tony Battie played more minutes than Gortat that year, which I didn't remember.

Re: Houston vs Indiana live in Manila...the Rockets are so loaded
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2013, 03:07:33 PM »

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Re: Houston vs Indiana live in Manila...the Rockets are so loaded
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2013, 03:09:47 PM »

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Parsons+?+Asik>Turkoglu+Lewis+Gortat

That's how I'd look at it. Turkoglu and Lewis and Nelson for that matter owe Dwight Howard a lot of money for making them look competent.

No way.  You're drastically underrating how good Lewis and Turk were in their prime.

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Re: Houston vs Indiana live in Manila...the Rockets are so loaded
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2013, 03:21:18 PM »

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I disagree with you IP. You're underselling Rashard Lewis and Turk.

Asik is a good player, but he plays the same position as Howard. No way can he impact that game as much as Rashard Lewis did because of that. Not to mention for all the laughter his contract got he was a [dang] good player in 08-09. His adjusted +/- was better than Pau Gasols. That's still slightly worse than Asik's this year, but Asik/Howard don't have the same sort of offensive synergy that Lewis/Howard did.

That I'm not arguing at all, and I guess it is what tips the FC in the Magic's favor. I was saying Asik playing the role of Gortat.

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I also think you wildly overrate Parsons, Turk was better than him too. Not as efficient scoring wise, but a much more dangerous threat with the ball. I think Parsons gets too much love for his play on the court because he's paid nearly nothing.

Well, here they are side by side:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=parsoch01&y1=2013&p2=turkohe01&y2=2009

Turk's a better passer, that's inarguable, but I think you're underrating Parson's skillset here, especially his ability to score efficiently without disrupting the offense or taking touches away from more gifted scorers.

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Re: Houston vs Indiana live in Manila...the Rockets are so loaded
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2013, 03:34:03 PM »

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Being a low usage efficient scorer is handy, but that doesn't mean you are as valuable as a playmaker whose efficiency is pretty close and handles more responsibility and possessions.