Sullinger and Olynyk duo

[clover]

With humphries likely not brought back and bass coming off the bench for nezt season, will sully and olynyk get a chance to start next season?

What do ppl think

I think Wyc is right and there'll be at least some fireworks before next season. I'm hoping for Embiid or a trade for a real center (Aik, Sanders), and then I want KO rounding into form to start at the 4 by midseason, at least. Sully or Bass or Hump (in a S&T?) is likely gone next season, and I hope he or they bring something good back in return. I'm also counting on a new wing player in the draft (whether first or second pick), and I don't rule out Rondo going, either--though I think he'll stay if they land Embiid or a good veteran center.

[Tr1boy]

With humphries likely not brought back and bass coming off the bench for nezt season, will sully and olynyk get a chance to start next season?

What do ppl think

I think Wyc is right and there'll be at least some fireworks before next season. I'm hoping for Embiid or a trade for a real center (Aik, Sanders), and then I want KO rounding into form to start at the 4 by midseason, at least. Sully or Bass or Hump (in a S&T?) is likely gone next season, and I hope he or they bring something good back in return. I'm also counting on a new wing player in the draft (whether first or second pick), and I don't rule out Rondo going, either--though I think he'll stay if they land Embiid or a good veteran center.

If your prediction comes true, it will be interesting who the org chooses going fwd to start at pf. Sully or KO

[LooseCannon]

With humphries likely not brought back and bass coming off the bench for nezt season, will sully and olynyk get a chance to start next season?

They will both get a chance to compete for starting jobs.  They won't be guaranteed starting jobs.

[Surferdad]

Olynyk is coming around lately but I'm still not sold. Too many turnovers and bad decisions with the ball. This could be corrected in his 2nd season, maybe.

Sully is the only guy I really want to keep.

[Tr1boy]

Olynyk is coming around lately but I'm still not sold. Too many turnovers and bad decisions with the ball. This could be corrected in his 2nd season, maybe.

Sully is the only guy I really want to keep.

You know Olynyk had 1 tunrover tonight right? He doesn't really turn over the ball much and especially for a rookie.

Sullinger had zero turnovers.

These two guys are good with taking care of the ball. Excellent hands and have high iq's.

I know they did good tonight but i'm still not sold when they play vs length.

I would love the Celts to consider Cauley Stein with our second first. With humprhies not likely resigned next year a main trio of Sullinger, KO, WCS would be nice. With Bass as the utility guy off the bench

Usually i would start KO and Sully but vs team with length, i'd sit whoever is the coldest and put WCS to battle above the rim

[fitzhickey]

WCS is not a good rebounder, and is very inconsistent. Not my preference.

[Tr1boy]

WCS is not a good rebounder, and is very inconsistent. Not my preference.

Well as a third guy. Sullinger and Olynyk would start. But they have their limitations vs major length. WCS is also a sparksplug

Sullinger and Olynyk remind me of Anthony Mason and Charles Oakley duo. When Ewing sat some game due to injury, these undersized guys would still be able to outplay you utilizing their iq. Both Mason and Oakley were good passers also

[fitzhickey]

WCS is not a good rebounder, and is very inconsistent. Not my preference.

Well as a third guy. Sullinger and Olynyk would start. But they have their limitations vs major length. WCS is also a sparksplug

Sullinger and Olynyk remind me of Anthony Mason and Charles Oakley duo. When Ewing sat some game due to injury, these undersized guys would still be able to outplay you utilizing their iq. Both Mason and Oakley were good passers also

I, personally, would rather a wing (as I've said many times before) because I think we'll be drafting 5-7 ish range. And I'm thinking Danny takes Vonleh, who I would be very happy with. If Vonleh packs on more muscle then he could play center, due to his immense 7'4" wingspan.

Drafting two bigs would just make no sense to me. 

[Surferdad]

Olynyk is coming around lately but I'm still not sold. Too many turnovers and bad decisions with the ball. This could be corrected in his 2nd season, maybe.

Sully is the only guy I really want to keep.

You know Olynyk had 1 tunrover tonight right? He doesn't really turn over the ball much and especially for a rookie.

Sullinger had zero turnovers.

These two guys are good with taking care of the ball. Excellent hands and have high iq's...

Disagree about KO regarding turnovers. He doesn't handle the ball enough to have a lot of turnovers. Watching the games, I see him make many mistakes with the ball ESPECIALLY down low. He just doesn't seem to know what to do and his inexperience hurts him and so often gets stripped. He is much better with the ball outside and in the high post. This is is likely because he used to be a point guard.

As I said, these deficiencies may be corrected by the time next season rolls around. I'm just not sure I would wait if there is a chance to package him in a bigger deal.

[Tr1boy]

Olynyk is coming around lately but I'm still not sold. Too many turnovers and bad decisions with the ball. This could be corrected in his 2nd season, maybe.

Sully is the only guy I really want to keep.

You know Olynyk had 1 tunrover tonight right? He doesn't really turn over the ball much and especially for a rookie.

Sullinger had zero turnovers.

These two guys are good with taking care of the ball. Excellent hands and have high iq's...

Disagree about KO regarding turnovers. He doesn't handle the ball enough to have a lot of turnovers. Watching the games, I see him make many mistakes with the ball ESPECIALLY down low. He just doesn't seem to know what to do and his inexperience hurts him and so often gets stripped. He is much better with the ball outside and in the high post. This is is likely because he used to be a point guard.

As I said, these deficiencies may be corrected by the time next season rolls around. I'm just not sure I would wait if there is a chance to package him in a bigger deal.

He is not an inside player. Not yet in the NBA anyways.  He may never
I think he has to bulk up significantly to able to bulldoze his way into the basket which will hurt his quickness and agility.

He can do alot of other things though. A 7ft player able to drive right or left is a nice weapon to have. A guy that can shoot the three and make great passes.  He also tries to get tip ins, offensive rebounds. Lately he is getting one or two a game. His defensive impact has been excellent. He covers alot of ground quickly and can help defend in no time.

He is a future starter or a will be part of a main 3 frontcourt trio.

[clover]

Olynyk is coming around lately but I'm still not sold. Too many turnovers and bad decisions with the ball. This could be corrected in his 2nd season, maybe.

Sully is the only guy I really want to keep.

You know Olynyk had 1 tunrover tonight right? He doesn't really turn over the ball much and especially for a rookie.

Sullinger had zero turnovers.

These two guys are good with taking care of the ball. Excellent hands and have high iq's...

Disagree about KO regarding turnovers. He doesn't handle the ball enough to have a lot of turnovers. Watching the games, I see him make many mistakes with the ball ESPECIALLY down low. He just doesn't seem to know what to do and his inexperience hurts him and so often gets stripped. He is much better with the ball outside and in the high post. This is is likely because he used to be a point guard.

As I said, these deficiencies may be corrected by the time next season rolls around. I'm just not sure I would wait if there is a chance to package him in a bigger deal.

He is not an inside player. Not yet in the NBA anyways.  He may never
I think he has to bulk up significantly to able to bulldoze his way into the basket which will hurt his quickness and agility.

He can do alot of other things though. A 7ft player able to drive right or left is a nice weapon to have. A guy that can shoot the three and make great passes.  He also tries to get tip ins, offensive rebounds. Lately he is getting one or two a game. His defensive impact has been excellent. He covers alot of ground quickly and can help defend in no time.

He is a future starter or a will be part of a main 3 frontcourt trio.

Agreed, KO's potential inside, ability to move outside, and length give him much more defensive potential than most people seem to realize. Already, he's done pretty well defensively as a fast-learning rookie.

[hwangjini_1]

Olynyk is coming around lately but I'm still not sold. Too many turnovers and bad decisions with the ball. This could be corrected in his 2nd season, maybe.

Sully is the only guy I really want to keep.

just to add to this discussion on turnovers, here are the per 36 for the celtics forwards this season:
olly = 2.7 turnovers per 36 minutes
sully =  2.1
hump = 1.7
bass = 1.7

what i think we all should keep in mind is that bass and hump dont pass as much as part of their game. olly's game involves passing from the high post and sully passes alot from the low post. that may contribute to the higher turn over rates.

the stats for assists, not "passes" (couldnt find this) are:

olly = 2.9 assists per 36 minutes
sully =  2.1
hump = 1.8
bass = 1.4

olly has the best assist/to ration, bass the poorest. no surprises there and that matches the "eye test."

[kozlodoev]

olly has the best assist/to ration, bass the poorest. no surprises there and that matches the "eye test."

And the differences between the four are pretty much immaterial.

[hwangjini_1]

olly has the best assist/to ration, bass the poorest. no surprises there and that matches the "eye test."

And the differences between the four are pretty much immaterial.

good call kz. not a tremendous amount of differences among the group in terms of the a/to ratio.