2013 CB Draft: How's my CB Draft Team look?

[riah32]

How is this team not getting any respect:

Roster looks like this:

Pg:Jennings Collison
Sg:Joe Johnson/Caldwell-Pope
Sf:Deng/Bennett/Thompson
PF:Melo/Tristian Thompson/Bennett
C:Bynum/ZAZA/Mullens

I don't think it would be easy but I would try to move, in a package or separately, Bynum, Jennings and the rookies. I buy Thompson as a back up to Melo and when JJ or Deng or Melo needs a rest he is the PF and the other 2 play the wings. I can see that and TT doesn't need to be a scorer. Just get those rebounds on both ends, which he can do.

Jennings is just a fit I do not like. Chalmers, Hill, Jack, Collison, or even Foye platooning with someone like Eric Bledsoe or CJ Watson, for me is a better working team and makes the offense flow better with an efficient three point shooter out at the PG spot that doesn't need the ball in his hands.

Bynum, well, convince the CB world he will be healthy and he's excellent. If they believe otherwise, and I think they do, you are in trouble.

And people, like me, just won't put you in high regard with rookies in a bad draft class playing a major role in your rotation.

Bynum and Pope to a team and Jennings and Bennett to another and see what you can get and you might be surprised just how much better this team is received. Of course, that is easier said than done.

Jennings did all right playing with the biggest ball hog ever monte ellis

[KGs Knee]

Thanks Rondoallaturca & Who,  TP to you both.

Honestly, I've mostly been "winging" it.  I mean, I make a list each night, but it's odd doing it that way (to me at least).

These last couple weeks were just the worst possible timing for the draft.  But it's been interesting, and a definite learning experience.

[Roy H.]

I'm surprised you call Boston a below-average offense after just praising the Nuggets team starting Lilliard, Lee, Chandler, Varejao, and Monroe.  IP's team has a considerably better offense in the starting lineup without Gallinari.  When you include Gallo in the starting lineup, this Boston team is equal or better on offense at every single position 1-5 (if you twist the frontcourt matchups) than Yoki's Nuggets.

First, I'm not sure what my "praise" of Yoki's team has to do with my critique of IP's team, especially when my praise was that Yoki's team was a solid squad that lacked top-end talent and spacing in the front court.

Second, considerably better?

Irving (22.5 points, 39.1% 3PT%, .553 eFG%, 5.9 assists) vs. Lillard (19.0 points, 36.8% 3PT%, .546 TS%, 6.5 assists)
Stephenson (8.8 points, 33.0% 3PT%, .530 TS%) vs. Lee (7.8 points, 37.2% 3PT%,.545 TS%)
Brewer (12.1 points, 29.6% 3PT%, .506 TS%) vs. Chandler (13.0 points, 41.3% 3PT%, .556 TS%)
Gasol (13.7 points, 46.6% FG%, .512 TS%, 7.6% ORB%) vs. Varejao (14.1 points, 47.8% FG%, .529 TS%, 16.9% ORB%)
Splitter (10.3 points, 56.0 FG%, .609 TS%, 8.8% ORB%) vs. Monroe (16.0 points,48.6% FG%, .527 TS%, 9.9% ORB%)

Yoki's starters outscore IP's, and they outshoot them.  Lillard averages more assists than Irving, and Yoki's bigs kill IP's in offensive rebounding.  Heck, Anderson Varejao even shot a higher percentage than Gasol on shots from 10' to 23'.

I'd say that those teams are fairly close offensively, with Yoki probably fairing better due to his better shooting and rebounding.  IP's squad certainly isn't "considerably better" on offense, particularly when you exclude Gallinari.

[Lucky17]

Milwaukee Bucks

PG: Mike Conley / Jerryd Bayless
SG: JJ Redick / Alonzo Gee
SF: Paul George / Trevor Ariza
PF: Ryan Anderson / Reggie Evans
 C: Emeka Okafor / Tyler Zeller / Greg Smith

Haven't yet decided how I plan on allotting minutes.  I do know George is going to see a decent amount of time at the 4, in order to force other teams to match up.  Not sure yet who will be the center when George plays at the 4.  Probably Okafor, but it really could be any one of my bigs.  Maybe I'll just put Anderson there and have all 5 guys stand behind the 3 point line.

Really surprised I was able to get Zeller in the 11th round.  He was a starter as a rookie last year and put up decent offensive numbers for a bad Cleveland team, and will likely end up starting again (since Cleveland signed that useless bum and terrible human being known as Andrew Bynum).

Open to any thoughts, suggestions, or whatever.

While I suspect it was in jest, I think Anderson seems the best option at the 5 when George slides to PF (although perhaps by default). Zeller, maybe, if you're looking to go uptempo.

I like the combination in the starting backcourt. Both can move and shoot the ball well.

The bench ensemble seems to be missing something, but I can't quite put my finger on it, which nags at me. Perhaps one more sniper? Not sure.

It's a good roster. Should make the playoffs.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I have Denver and Cleveland as two of my top teams in the East. Not THE top two teams, at least I haven't made that determination yet

When did Denver move to the east?

Shhhhhh.... Denver is aleeady top 2. Lets keep it that way.

[AB_Celtic]

Regular season rotation
   PG: Ty Lawson (33) / Steve Blake (15)
   SG: Tony Allen (20) / Jamal Crawford (28)
   SF: Caron Butler (25) / Gerald Wallace (15) / [Allen (8.)]
   PF: Al Horford (18) / Carl Landry (25) / [Wallace (5)]
   C: Kevin Garnett (25) / [Horford (15)] / Timofey Mozgov (8.)
* - Gerald Wallace will start in place of Caron Butler to guard elite SFs and more mobile PFs (LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Carmelo Anthony, Josh Smith, etc.)

Back-to-Back rotation (Garnett resting)
   PG: Ty Lawson (33) / Steve Blake (15)
   SG: Tony Allen (20) / Jamal Crawford (28)
   SF: Caron Butler (30) / Gerald Wallace (10) / [Allen (8.)]
   PF: Carl Landry (33) / [Wallace (15)]
   C: Al Horford (36) / Timofey Mozgov (12) /// Kevin Garnett (0)

Playoff rotation
   PG: Ty Lawson (36) / Steve Blake (12)
   SG: Tony Allen (15) / Jamal Crawford (33)
   SF: Caron Butler (25) / [Allen (15)] / Gerald Wallace (8.)
   PF: Al Horford (20) / Carl Landry (28)
   C: Kevin Garnett (33) / [Horford (15)]

A lot of info here, but the jist is we're a very flexible team, and we have a plan that our players fit into perfectly.

[Lucky17]

I'm not sure I buy Tony Allen playing up to half of his (playoff) minutes at the SF, when he barely played there for Memphis last season.

http://www.82games.com/1213/12MEM7.HTM

Carl Landry at 33 mpg when KG rests? That also seems awful steep. Wondering how the yoyo PT for him might affect his production.

If you have picks remaining, I think another combo forward would do wonders for your rotation.

[rondoallaturca]

I think LA challenges Cleveland for versatility 

Jose Calderon | Jose Juan Barea
Wesley Matthews | Carlos Delfino | Jeremy Lamb
Quincy Pondexter | Luc Mbah a Moute
Dirk Nowitzki | Ed Davis | Kelly Olynyk
Marc Gasol | Jermaine O'Neal

Matthews, Delfino, and Davis can cover two positions, Pondexter can cover three, and Mbah a Moute can cover a whopping four. Of those five, three of them are very skilled defenders, with one of them arguably being the best defensive specialist in the league.

And on an unrelated note, how about Jeremy Lamb and Kelly Olynyk as third-stringers? Elite team in the now + promising future talent?! That's some ballin' San Antonio Spurs thinking right there.

[KGs Knee]

Ya, your squad is good, AB.

Well put together.  Which scores very high with me.  It's one of the main things I look for, fit.

[Roy H.]

Regular season rotation
   PG: Ty Lawson (33) / Steve Blake (15)
   SG: Tony Allen (20) / Jamal Crawford (28)
   SF: Caron Butler (25) / Gerald Wallace (15) / [Allen (8.)]
   PF: Al Horford (18) / Carl Landry (25) / [Wallace (5)]
   C: Kevin Garnett (25) / [Horford (15)] / Timofey Mozgov (8.)
* - Gerald Wallace will start in place of Caron Butler to guard elite SFs and more mobile PFs (LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Carmelo Anthony, Josh Smith, etc.)

Back-to-Back rotation (Garnett resting)
   PG: Ty Lawson (33) / Steve Blake (15)
   SG: Tony Allen (20) / Jamal Crawford (28)
   SF: Caron Butler (30) / Gerald Wallace (10) / [Allen (8.)]
   PF: Carl Landry (33) / [Wallace (15)]
   C: Al Horford (36) / Timofey Mozgov (12) /// Kevin Garnett (0)

Playoff rotation
   PG: Ty Lawson (36) / Steve Blake (12)
   SG: Tony Allen (15) / Jamal Crawford (33)
   SF: Caron Butler (25) / [Allen (15)] / Gerald Wallace (8.)
   PF: Al Horford (20) / Carl Landry (28)
   C: Kevin Garnett (33) / [Horford (15)]

A lot of info here, but the jist is we're a very flexible team, and we have a plan that our players fit into perfectly.

A piece of advice (to everybody):  don't give specifics on the minutes your guys will play.  Stuff like that is impossible to predict.  Your coach will play the best guys the most minutes, period.

[AB_Celtic]

I'm not sure I buy Tony Allen playing up to half of his (playoff) minutes at the SF, when he barely played there for Memphis last season.

http://www.82games.com/1213/12MEM7.HTM

Carl Landry at 33 mpg when KG rests? That also seems awful steep. Wondering how the yoyo PT for him might affect his production.

If you have picks remaining, I think another combo forward would do wonders for your rotation.

We already have an effective (defensive) combo forward in Wallace. If people don't believe in TA at the 3 (I personally do; if he can embarrass Durant then he can guard pretty much anyone there), then Wallace can play s'more.

Landry goes from 25 mins when KG plays to 33 when he doesn't. Not a huge difference, especially considering he'll only be doing it for back-to-backs, and not every other game. Furthermore, if you look at his game log (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3217/carl-landry) there are some nights he plays around 10 minutes and some nights he plays upwards of 30 minutes, and he's still effective.

For instance, on Feb 20, he played 14 minutes and was 5-6 with 6 rebounds. Two games later, on Feb 24, he played 33 minutes and was 8-9 with 9 rebounds. So we aren't worried about that.

A piece of advice (to everybody):  don't give specifics on the minutes your guys will play.  Stuff like that is impossible to predict.  Your coach will play the best guys the most minutes, period.

But Roy, that's part of the fun.

[Roy H.]

But Roy, that's part of the fun.

Yeah, but winning is even more fun.

But no, why I give that advice is that if you give your fellow jackals anything to pick apart they'll be happy to oblige.

[rondoallaturca]

But Roy, that's part of the fun.

Yeah, but winning is even more fun.

But no, why I give that advice is that if you give your fellow jackals anything to pick apart they'll be happy to oblige.

As Lucky17 has already demonstrated. Lol

[Lucky17]

But Roy, that's part of the fun.

Yeah, but winning is even more fun.

But no, why I give that advice is that if you give your fellow jackals anything to pick apart they'll be happy to oblige.

As Lucky17 has already demonstrated. Lol

Guilty as charged. A fine rebuttal though. Did you see my latest PM?

[Who]

I think TA will be fine at the three.

In fact, I think TA is the Cavs' best option at SF + that Cleveland's most effective lineup on the season will be have J.Crawford at SG alongside TA at SF (alongside KG, Horford and Ty Lawson) with both Caron Butler and Gerald Wallace watching from the bench.