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J Crawford: Season Opening Starting PG?
« on: August 18, 2013, 11:52:13 PM »

Offline Rick Robeys Return

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For all the speculation  - and the stated desire - to trade Jordan Crawford NOW, and for a box of rocks at that, isn't it possible that he ends up being our opening night starter at PG, or at least someone who gets some serious run there for the first twenty games?

Rondo may well be out for the first month of the season, or for some undefined period of time. With the current roster, this leaves Pressey as the only legitimate PG, i.e. a rookie, and undrafted FA summer league signing.  Starting immediately is asking a lot from Pressey, perhaps to his detriment.

Admittedly, Coach Stevens could go with Avery Bradley at the point, but I sincerely hope that  - especially at the start of the season - AB is allowed to return to his natural position, after a somewhat disastrous, and certainly disruptive, run at PG last season. This is in the long term interest of both AB and the team.

Given this, and a likely desire to showcase JCraw for a prospective trade, isn't it just as likely that he begins the seasons as our starting PG, than that he gets traded before training camp? 
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Re: J Crawford: Season Opening Starting PG?
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2013, 12:03:34 AM »

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For all the speculation  - and the stated desire - to trade Jordan Crawford NOW for a box of rocks, isn't it possible that he ends up being our opening night starter at PG, or at least someone who gets some serious run there for the first twenty games?

Rondo may well be out for the first month of the season, or for some undefined period time. With the current roster, this leaves Pressey as the only legitimate PG, i.e. a rookie, and undrafted FA summer league signing.  This is asking a lot from Pressey.

Admittedly, Coach Stevens could go with Avery Bradley at the point, but I sincerely hope that  - especially at the start of the season - AB is allowed to return to his natural position, after a somewhat disastrous, and certainly disruptive, run at PG last season. This is in the long term interest of both AB and the team.

Given this, and a likely desire to showcase JCraw for a prospective trade, isn't it just as likely that he begins the seasons as our starting PG, than that he gets traded before training camp?

oh god i hope not.

Re: J Crawford: Season Opening Starting PG?
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2013, 12:43:28 AM »

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There are few guys on the roster I would not start ahead of him at PG.
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Re: J Crawford: Season Opening Starting PG?
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2013, 12:58:05 AM »

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For all the speculation  - and the stated desire - to trade Jordan Crawford NOW for a box of rocks, isn't it possible that he ends up being our opening night starter at PG, or at least someone who gets some serious run there for the first twenty games?

Rondo may well be out for the first month of the season, or for some undefined period time. With the current roster, this leaves Pressey as the only legitimate PG, i.e. a rookie, and undrafted FA summer league signing.  This is asking a lot from Pressey.

Admittedly, Coach Stevens could go with Avery Bradley at the point, but I sincerely hope that  - especially at the start of the season - AB is allowed to return to his natural position, after a somewhat disastrous, and certainly disruptive, run at PG last season. This is in the long term interest of both AB and the team.

Given this, and a likely desire to showcase JCraw for a prospective trade, isn't it just as likely that he begins the seasons as our starting PG, than that he gets traded before training camp?

oh god i hope not.
why not? are we title contenders this season? is olynyk and gerald wallace going to win us a championship?

Re: J Crawford: Season Opening Starting PG?
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2013, 01:13:36 AM »

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For all the speculation  - and the stated desire - to trade Jordan Crawford NOW for a box of rocks, isn't it possible that he ends up being our opening night starter at PG, or at least someone who gets some serious run there for the first twenty games?

Rondo may well be out for the first month of the season, or for some undefined period time. With the current roster, this leaves Pressey as the only legitimate PG, i.e. a rookie, and undrafted FA summer league signing.  This is asking a lot from Pressey.

Admittedly, Coach Stevens could go with Avery Bradley at the point, but I sincerely hope that  - especially at the start of the season - AB is allowed to return to his natural position, after a somewhat disastrous, and certainly disruptive, run at PG last season. This is in the long term interest of both AB and the team.

Given this, and a likely desire to showcase JCraw for a prospective trade, isn't it just as likely that he begins the seasons as our starting PG, than that he gets traded before training camp?

oh god i hope not.
why not? are we title contenders this season? is olynyk and gerald wallace going to win us a championship?

i never said that, are you serious? Lol. i just dont want jordan crawford to play point guard.

Re: J Crawford: Season Opening Starting PG?
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2013, 01:32:05 AM »

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If Crawford is your starting PG, you are giving up b4 starting. This is a move the tank crowd would love!

NO.

If push comes to shove AB and Lee would be way ahead on anyone's chart as the PG... then I'd rather go with Pressey, who I'm not even sure can play in the NBA! Now if all 3 of them couldn't go, I'd go with Brookes because I think he has more potential but it wouldn't be a clear cut choice between the two.

I like Craw but this is too far... backup PG is a stretch! If you said starting 2 then it wouldn't be as far out there, even then he'd still be behind AB, Lee, Brookes and Bogans on my list.

Safe to say that we would add someone from the DL before we have to start Craw at PG!
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If it means Avery Bradley gets his 30+ mpg without having to play the point, I'd be willing to experiment with it.
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Somebody`s gotta tun the point, I suppose he is gonna have to. Maybe him and Pressey split the minutes 24-24, till Rondo returns?
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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2013, 08:09:45 AM »

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Actually an intriguing idea.  I really don't like Crawford but if he embraced a facilitator role it would go a long way toward neutralizing his poor shot selection.  If it doesn't work, then the loss is minimal since I don't see him as an answer at SG.  Come to think of it his circus shots make a lot more sense as a last second forced than as a best-shot-available.  I really have to question his court sense overall, however.

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I think Nolan Smith winds up with a non-guaranteed contract and takes some of those minutes while Rondo is out.  Whether he makes it to the end of the season, or is released when Rondo comes back, depends upon the Celtics making another move that reduces salary before the January deadline for his contract to become fully guaranteed.  (It also, of course, depends on his performance).

But without Smith, Crawford is the third-best point guard on this roster (heck, he may be better than Smith anyway).  It doesn't mean he's particularly good at it, but someone's got to play if Rondo isn't going to be available for an extended stretch.

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I think Nolan Smith winds up with a non-guaranteed contract and takes some of those minutes while Rondo is out.  Whether he makes it to the end of the season, or is released when Rondo comes back, depends upon the Celtics making another move that reduces salary before the January deadline for his contract to become fully guaranteed.  (It also, of course, depends on his performance).

But without Smith, Crawford is the third-best point guard on this roster (heck, he may be better than Smith anyway).  It doesn't mean he's particularly good at it, but someone's got to play if Rondo isn't going to be available for an extended stretch.

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That would be a very effective tanking strategy.
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I think AB would start alongside Lee, but then split time at sg; however, he is clearly the first option off the bench and should get at least 20-24 minutes / game at pg. Pressey may develop into a nice player, but relying on an undrafted rookie for major minutes right out of the gate could be rough for us and him. Crawford is the 2nd best passer on this team [next to Rondo] and he has decent ball-control. If put in the position where he is asked to be a pass-first guy, he may very well excel.

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As a reminder, Jcraw did play the point for the Wizards, filling in for John Wall when he was hurt. And he does have a couple triple doubles (ten+ assist) to his credit...

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As a reminder, Jcraw did play the point for the Wizards, filling in for John Wall when he was hurt. And he does have a couple triple doubles (ten+ assist) to his credit...

And eventually they were so tired of him that they were willing to give him away for nothing....
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