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Re: Shabazz Muhammad dismissed from NBA Rookie Transistion Program
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2013, 03:59:44 PM »

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Wait a second. Shouldn't the punishment for doing something like this be having to attend *more* "Rookie Transition" sessions?

It's like dismissing someone from driver's ed because they fail the parallel parking test.

He has to come back next year.  At which point he'll no longer be a rookie and will have a few million more dollars to throw around.  By the time he gets through,  he might be better served by a Retirement Transition program.

Re: Shabazz Muhammad dismissed from NBA Rookie Transistion Program
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2013, 04:00:11 PM »

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Wait a second. Shouldn't the punishment for doing something like this be having to attend *more* "Rookie Transition" sessions?

It's like dismissing someone from driver's ed because they fail the parallel parking test.

He has to attend again with the 2014 class

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Zillgitt noted that Muhammad will be required to return to the rookie symposium next season—as a sophomore—with the Class of 2014 draftees and other players who have yet to attend the program.

Re: Shabazz Muhammad dismissed from NBA Rookie Transistion Program
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2013, 04:06:10 PM »

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Wait a second. Shouldn't the punishment for doing something like this be having to attend *more* "Rookie Transition" sessions?

It's like dismissing someone from driver's ed because they fail the parallel parking test.

He has to attend again with the 2014 class

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Zillgitt noted that Muhammad will be required to return to the rookie symposium next season—as a sophomore—with the Class of 2014 draftees and other players who have yet to attend the program.

What the point, or more precisely, what is the real punishment here?

It's not as if he isn't going to be allowed play until he completes this program.  This "punishment" has no teeth.

Re: Shabazz Muhammad dismissed from NBA Rookie Transistion Program
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2013, 04:09:23 PM »

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The rule is no guests - male or female - without prior approval. Not a rule that's too hard to understand. The fact that he broke it within hours says a lot about his respect for rules.

I definitely see this kid having a Michael Beasley-esque path.
Speaking of Beasley, wasn't he involved in the Darrel Arthur/Mario Chalmers pot smoking fire alarm issue at his rookie transition camp? If Shabazz follows along Beasley's path, that is a very bad sign.

Re: Shabazz Muhammad dismissed from NBA Rookie Transistion Program
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2013, 04:09:47 PM »

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Wait a second. Shouldn't the punishment for doing something like this be having to attend *more* "Rookie Transition" sessions?

It's like dismissing someone from driver's ed because they fail the parallel parking test.

He has to attend again with the 2014 class

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Zillgitt noted that Muhammad will be required to return to the rookie symposium next season—as a sophomore—with the Class of 2014 draftees and other players who have yet to attend the program.

Okay, got it. It's more like sending someone home from driver's ed and making him come back in a year - but letting him drive in the meantime.

Re: Shabazz Muhammad dismissed from NBA Rookie Transistion Program
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2013, 04:13:06 PM »

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Wait a second. Shouldn't the punishment for doing something like this be having to attend *more* "Rookie Transition" sessions?

It's like dismissing someone from driver's ed because they fail the parallel parking test.

He has to attend again with the 2014 class

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Zillgitt noted that Muhammad will be required to return to the rookie symposium next season—as a sophomore—with the Class of 2014 draftees and other players who have yet to attend the program.

What the point, or more precisely, what is the real punishment here?

It's not as if he isn't going to be allowed play until he completes this program.  This "punishment" has no teeth.

Ever sat through a boring, tedious mandatory seminar for work?  Being forced to do it over is its own punishment.

...that reminds me, I have to sign up for a 4-hour course to make sure I didn't forget over the summer that sexual harassment is bad, m'kay :(

Re: Shabazz Muhammad dismissed from NBA Rookie Transistion Program
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2013, 04:15:08 PM »

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Wait a second. Shouldn't the punishment for doing something like this be having to attend *more* "Rookie Transition" sessions?

It's like dismissing someone from driver's ed because they fail the parallel parking test.

He has to attend again with the 2014 class

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Zillgitt noted that Muhammad will be required to return to the rookie symposium next season—as a sophomore—with the Class of 2014 draftees and other players who have yet to attend the program.

Okay, got it. It's more like sending someone home from driver's ed and making him come back in a year - but letting him drive in the meantime.
My guess is a fine will be forthcoming either from the league or the team. While $20-25 large isn't much for someone that just signed a multi-million dollar contract, it will hurt some.

Re: Shabazz Muhammad dismissed from NBA Rookie Transistion Program
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2013, 04:16:03 PM »

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What a lousy rule. He is an adult who is about to be a multi millionaire. What's wrong with bringing a lady back to his place.  It's unAmerican....

Re: Shabazz Muhammad dismissed from NBA Rookie Transistion Program
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2013, 04:26:55 PM »

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What a lousy rule. He is an adult who is about to be a multi millionaire. What's wrong with bringing a lady back to his place.  It's unAmerican....

I bet part of the class is about gold digging woman who wait out side games or hotels for players to bring them back to the rooms, just to fool them into getting married then to just divorce a year later (or after the big contract) and loose half their money.

So part of the No guest allowed is to show restraint. Could just also be for safety sake for the guest so if some thing happens they don't blame the NBA.

Bottom line is, they are there on the NBA's dollar, and if thats what the NBA wants, they should follow and not fool around.

Thats what the regular season is for! :P

Re: Shabazz Muhammad dismissed from NBA Rookie Transistion Program
« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2013, 04:35:37 PM »

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Wait a second. Shouldn't the punishment for doing something like this be having to attend *more* "Rookie Transition" sessions?

It's like dismissing someone from driver's ed because they fail the parallel parking test.

He has to attend again with the 2014 class

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Zillgitt noted that Muhammad will be required to return to the rookie symposium next season—as a sophomore—with the Class of 2014 draftees and other players who have yet to attend the program.

Okay, got it. It's more like sending someone home from driver's ed and making him come back in a year - but letting him drive in the meantime.
My guess is a fine will be forthcoming either from the league or the team. While $20-25 large isn't much for someone that just signed a multi-million dollar contract, it will hurt some.

Suppose you offered every rookie the choice to attend, or to just pay the $25k up front and avoid the thing entirely (or even push it back a year). How many would pony up?

I'm being a bit facetious of course, but either the educational value matters or it doesn't. This sends an odd message.

Re: Shabazz Muhammad dismissed from NBA Rookie Transistion Program
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2013, 04:43:09 PM »

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Wait a second. Shouldn't the punishment for doing something like this be having to attend *more* "Rookie Transition" sessions?

It's like dismissing someone from driver's ed because they fail the parallel parking test.

He has to attend again with the 2014 class

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Zillgitt noted that Muhammad will be required to return to the rookie symposium next season—as a sophomore—with the Class of 2014 draftees and other players who have yet to attend the program.

Okay, got it. It's more like sending someone home from driver's ed and making him come back in a year - but letting him drive in the meantime.
My guess is a fine will be forthcoming either from the league or the team. While $20-25 large isn't much for someone that just signed a multi-million dollar contract, it will hurt some.

Suppose you offered every rookie the choice to attend, or to just pay the $25k up front and avoid the thing entirely (or even push it back a year). How many would pony up?

I'm being a bit facetious of course, but either the educational value matters or it doesn't. This sends an odd message.

I kind of agree here.  What's the point of having this symposium, and having rules, if breaking the rules has very  little consequence?  Isn't this just teaching these guys, "don't worry, if you break the rules, you'll just pay a small fine, and be done with it"?

Why even bother, it juts seems like a charade, to me. If the NBA truly cared about these kids, they'd have more strict guidelines, and consequences, that needed to be followed, tying them in to one's ability to play in games.  Simply deferring attendance to a future season, is pointless, IMHO.

Re: Shabazz Muhammad dismissed from NBA Rookie Transistion Program
« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2013, 04:43:12 PM »

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I think the message is "follow the rules or expect financial repercussions". I find that to be a good message to send.

There are certain responsibilities to being an NBA player, one being follow the rules during orientation weekend. The consequences are if you don't follow those rules, expect fines and expect to be brought back to do the orientation again. And I imagine if Shabazz does something against the rules at the next orientation, then possibly higher fines and suspensions would be levied.

If you knew you had a job at Google making big bucks and a stipulation was to go to a 4 day seminar without guests and to just do the seminar, my guess is just about everyone follows those rules or else. With guaranteed contracts in the NBA, the or else will not be losing the job but the league can make life very difficult on Shabazz if he doesn't comply next year.

Re: Shabazz Muhammad dismissed from NBA Rookie Transistion Program
« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2013, 04:45:13 PM »

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Wait a second. Shouldn't the punishment for doing something like this be having to attend *more* "Rookie Transition" sessions?

It's like dismissing someone from driver's ed because they fail the parallel parking test.

He has to attend again with the 2014 class

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Zillgitt noted that Muhammad will be required to return to the rookie symposium next season—as a sophomore—with the Class of 2014 draftees and other players who have yet to attend the program.

Okay, got it. It's more like sending someone home from driver's ed and making him come back in a year - but letting him drive in the meantime.
My guess is a fine will be forthcoming either from the league or the team. While $20-25 large isn't much for someone that just signed a multi-million dollar contract, it will hurt some.

Suppose you offered every rookie the choice to attend, or to just pay the $25k up front and avoid the thing entirely (or even push it back a year). How many would pony up?

I'm being a bit facetious of course, but either the educational value matters or it doesn't. This sends an odd message.

The class probably doesn't matter that much to the rookies, but it's more of the "shame" factor of getting kicked out for not following rules and it being publicized. It also raises a flag for the team, especially since he he already has a reputation.

Re: Shabazz Muhammad dismissed from NBA Rookie Transistion Program
« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2013, 05:01:13 PM »

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I'm probably in the minority here, but I'm of the opinion the NBA needs stricter punishments for failure to comply with the rules.  Mainly, if you can't make it through the 4 days without screwing up, you don't get to play in the real NBA.

Basically, screw up, and spend the year in the D-League.  These kunckleheads just tick me off.

Re: Shabazz Muhammad dismissed from NBA Rookie Transistion Program
« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2013, 05:03:52 PM »

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I'm probably in the minority here, but I'm of the opinion the NBA needs stricter punishments for failure to comply with the rules.  Mainly, if you can't make it through the 4 days without screwing up, you don't get to play in the real NBA.

Basically, screw up, and spend the year in the D-League.  These kunckleheads just tick me off.
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