Who Do You Trade: Melo/Crawford/Brooks

[diconzo]

If Randolph is waived (I like him, but too many PF's), The C's will be a little under 800,000 into the luxury tax. Why waste a rebuilding year in the luxury tax and risk being a repeater later on? So the three most expendable players that would get us under the cap are Fab Melo, Jordan Crawford, and Marshon Brooks.

My vote is to trade Crawford, Brooks is a little younger and has a (slight) chance to still ditch the 'chucker' label and be a productive SG.

[hwangjini_1]

the simple answer is you trade any or all of them if they bring back a good return, just as you would with any other player.

now, what might the celtics be able to fetch for any or all of these three players? probably not much more than a bucket of balls. as far as draft choices, why would anyone trade a first rounder for any of them right now?

best to include them in a larger trade - say, humphries et al - or simply cut crawford or brooks. melo is guaranteed this year, so give him a chance on court to show he belongs.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Bass and Crawford are the priorities.

[slamtheking]

the simple answer is you trade any or all of them if they bring back a good return, just as you would with any other player.

this is the correct answer.

I don't see any of them (singly or combined) bringing back a better player from another team.  At best, they're trade filler right now or possibly end up being like other players Danny has traded to Sac in the past with cash to cover the salary for a top-55 protected second rounder so that the roster spot is freed up.  I'd hope Danny might be able to lessen the protection to top-40 or so -- something we might be able to actually get down the line.

[diconzo]

the simple answer is you trade any or all of them if they bring back a good return, just as you would with any other player.

now, what might the celtics be able to fetch for any or all of these three players? probably not much more than a bucket of balls. as far as draft choices, why would anyone trade a first rounder for any of them right now?

best to include them in a larger trade - say, humphries et al - or simply cut crawford or brooks. melo is guaranteed this year, so give him a chance on court to show he belongs.

I agree I want to see Melo actually play in the NBA before I count him out, but won't it be too late to combine Humphries/Crawford because they cannot be combined with other players for a period of time, which would make us start the season as luxury tax offenders.

However, as BudweiserCeltic said,

Bass and Crawford are the priorities.

Combining Bass & Crawford may be our best bet. I hadn't considered it before. TP

[kozlodoev]

the simple answer is you trade any or all of them if they bring back a good return, just as you would with any other player.

While this is technically a truism, the threshold for "good return" on these three is not particularly high.

[Moranis]

all 3. 

[YoungOne87]

all 3.

this.

[LooseCannon]

If the Celtics are looking to dump salary, it probably makes more sense to try and get rid of the bigger salary in Courtney Lee rather than Crawford or Brooks. 

[rondoallaturca]

If the Celtics are looking to dump salary, it probably makes more sense to try and get rid of the bigger salary in Courtney Lee rather than Crawford or Brooks.

At the same time, Lee has more value and the C's are also trying to cut down the amount of players on the roster, too. I'd much rather part with Melo and Crawford and barely crawl under the luxury tax rather than selling short on a player just to get a couple more million under.

[AB_Celtic]

Who I'd like to see gone: Humphries, Wallace, Bass, Melo, Crawford, Bogans. Hopefully returning expirings and picks (first or second round, don't really care).

Leaving us with...

Rondo/Pressey
Bradley/Lee/Brooks
Green/ ? ? ?
Olynyk/Randolph
Sullinger/Iverson/Faverani

Youth, flexibility, and tankability.

[Tr1boy]

The lineup i envision

PG: Rondo/Brooks/Pressey
SG: AB/Brooks/Bogans
SF: Green/Wallace/Bogans
PF: Olynyk/Bass/Wallace
C: Sullinger/Humphries/Faverani

Goodbye Melo, Crawford, Lee. And likely bye to Humphries/Wallace and Bogans.

[hwangjini_1]

Who I'd like to see gone: Humphries, Wallace, Bass, Melo, Crawford, Bogans. Hopefully returning expirings and picks (first or second round, don't really care).

Leaving us with...

Rondo/Pressey
Bradley/Lee/Brooks
Green/ ? ? ?
Olynyk/Randolph
Sullinger/Iverson/Faverani

Youth, flexibility, and tankability.

true, but you can keep the flexibility and perhaps greatly enhance the tank-ocity by keeping melo. 

[mmmmm]

the simple answer is you trade any or all of them if they bring back a good return, just as you would with any other player.

now, what might the celtics be able to fetch for any or all of these three players? probably not much more than a bucket of balls. as far as draft choices, why would anyone trade a first rounder for any of them right now?

best to include them in a larger trade - say, humphries et al - or simply cut crawford or brooks. melo is guaranteed this year, so give him a chance on court to show he belongs.

I agree I want to see Melo actually play in the NBA before I count him out, but won't it be too late to combine Humphries/Crawford because they cannot be combined with other players for a period of time, which would make us start the season as luxury tax offenders.

However, as BudweiserCeltic said,

Bass and Crawford are the priorities.

Combining Bass & Crawford may be our best bet. I hadn't considered it before. TP

Doesn't really matter at the start of the season.   What matters is how much you payout for the course of the whole season.   As long as you dump enough salary commitments by the trade deadline, you can get under the luxury tax threshold for the season.

Also, just because Hump/Brooks/Wallace can't be combined with other salary for matching until Sept. 12, doesn't mean they can't be traded and that they can't be traded as part of a larger deal.   You can trade them at any time until them so long as their individual salary is enough to match an incoming player's salary per CBA rules.  You can still send and receive other pieces in the larger deal and the other team is allowed to treat them as one big deal or separate deals as well, whatever makes the final result fit CBA rules.

[danglertx]

I know nothing technically has to be done until the start of the season, but I feel like we should have had deals in place to move a couple of these guys.  Is there a deadline I don't know about as to why we'd be waiting to move some guys other than Sept 12th?