Chris Forsberg reports on TE gained in Nets trade

[Galeto]

Not expecting too much from the trade exception because most of them expire without being used.  If a team is looking to trade a player without taking anybody else back, you're not set up for a great haul.

It's not the right time to have a trade exception.  If the Celtics were a contending team, maybe they could use it to acquire a veteran role player they otherwise wouldn't have able to get.  The type of players available for trade exceptions don't seem appropriate for a rebuilding team.

[Lucky17]

Not expecting too much from the trade exception because most of them expire without being used.  If a team is looking to trade a player without taking anybody else back, you're not set up for a great haul.

It's not the right time to have a trade exception.  If the Celtics were a contending team, maybe they could use it to acquire a veteran role player they otherwise wouldn't have able to get.  The type of players available for trade exceptions don't seem appropriate for a rebuilding team.

In July 2007, Sam Presti used a $9 million trade exception to gain two future 1st round picks from a Phoenix team desperate to slash payroll (Suns got rid of Kurt Thomas).

One of those picks turned into Serge Ibaka.

You're right though: if Ainge doesn't use the TE, it does the team no good.

[ManUp]

My face after seeing the amount of the TE.

[action781]

Not expecting too much from the trade exception because most of them expire without being used.  If a team is looking to trade a player without taking anybody else back, you're not set up for a great haul.

It's not the right time to have a trade exception.  If the Celtics were a contending team, maybe they could use it to acquire a veteran role player they otherwise wouldn't have able to get.  The type of players available for trade exceptions don't seem appropriate for a rebuilding team.

In July 2007, Sam Presti used a $9 million trade exception to gain two future 1st round picks from a Phoenix team desperate to slash payroll (Suns got rid of Kurt Thomas).

One of those picks turned into Serge Ibaka.

You're right though: if Ainge doesn't use the TE, it does the team no good.

Yeah.  What teams are candidates looking to slash payroll next either at the trade deadline or in the offseason?

Teams predicted to be above the luxury tax threshold:
Brooklyn - Don't see anything happening there.
Miami - Don't see anything there.
Lakers - I see them desperate to shed some money to get under that tax threshold, but I'd imagine they'll probably deal with another team with a TPE rather than Boston.
Orlando -  Aaron Afflalo?  Al Harrington?  Jameer Nelson?  Glen Davis?  One player himself wouldn't get them under the threshold and they'd need to make another deal.
Chicago - I can't see them making a move.
NYK - I don't see them making a move.

Other teams possibly looking to dump players or contracts:

Toronto -  Steve Novak?
Phoenix -  Channing Frye?
Minnesota -  JJ Barea?

[Galeto]

Not expecting too much from the trade exception because most of them expire without being used.  If a team is looking to trade a player without taking anybody else back, you're not set up for a great haul.

It's not the right time to have a trade exception.  If the Celtics were a contending team, maybe they could use it to acquire a veteran role player they otherwise wouldn't have able to get.  The type of players available for trade exceptions don't seem appropriate for a rebuilding team.

In July 2007, Sam Presti used a $9 million trade exception to gain two future 1st round picks from a Phoenix team desperate to slash payroll (Suns got rid of Kurt Thomas).

One of those picks turned into Serge Ibaka.

You're right though: if Ainge doesn't use the TE, it does the team no good.

This is a good point.  Hopefully a good team wanting to create more salary cap room before next year's free agency will offer up a first round pick. 

[LatterDayCelticsfan]

Something could develop between now and the trade deadline.

[saltlover]

Not expecting too much from the trade exception because most of them expire without being used.  If a team is looking to trade a player without taking anybody else back, you're not set up for a great haul.

It's not the right time to have a trade exception.  If the Celtics were a contending team, maybe they could use it to acquire a veteran role player they otherwise wouldn't have able to get.  The type of players available for trade exceptions don't seem appropriate for a rebuilding team.

In July 2007, Sam Presti used a $9 million trade exception to gain two future 1st round picks from a Phoenix team desperate to slash payroll (Suns got rid of Kurt Thomas).

One of those picks turned into Serge Ibaka.

You're right though: if Ainge doesn't use the TE, it does the team no good.

Yeah.  What teams are candidates looking to slash payroll next either at the trade deadline or in the offseason?

Teams predicted to be above the luxury tax threshold:
Brooklyn - Don't see anything happening there.
Miami - Don't see anything there.
Lakers - I see them desperate to shed some money to get under that tax threshold, but I'd imagine they'll probably deal with another team with a TPE rather than Boston.
Orlando -  Aaron Afflalo?  Al Harrington?  Jameer Nelson?  Glen Davis?  One player himself wouldn't get them under the threshold and they'd need to make another deal.
Chicago - I can't see them making a move.
NYK - I don't see them making a move.

Other teams possibly looking to dump players or contracts:

Toronto -  Steve Novak?
Phoenix -  Channing Frye?
Minnesota -  JJ Barea?

Suppose Houston wants to play in the free agent pool again.  The trade exception will take one of Asik or Lin.  If Danny signs someone else to a non-guarantees 2014 deal, like White or Shav this year, Bogans and that player can completely absorb the other.  Golden state paid heavily to create room for Iggy this year.

Right now we're too near the hard cap to use most or all of the exception this season, anyway.  If it gets used, I expect it will be next July 10 or 11.

[nickagneta]

Not expecting too much from the trade exception because most of them expire without being used.  If a team is looking to trade a player without taking anybody else back, you're not set up for a great haul.

It's not the right time to have a trade exception.  If the Celtics were a contending team, maybe they could use it to acquire a veteran role player they otherwise wouldn't have able to get.  The type of players available for trade exceptions don't seem appropriate for a rebuilding team.

In July 2007, Sam Presti used a $9 million trade exception to gain two future 1st round picks from a Phoenix team desperate to slash payroll (Suns got rid of Kurt Thomas).

One of those picks turned into Serge Ibaka.

You're right though: if Ainge doesn't use the TE, it does the team no good.

Yeah.  What teams are candidates looking to slash payroll next either at the trade deadline or in the offseason?

Teams predicted to be above the luxury tax threshold:
Brooklyn - Don't see anything happening there.
Miami - Don't see anything there.
Lakers - I see them desperate to shed some money to get under that tax threshold, but I'd imagine they'll probably deal with another team with a TPE rather than Boston.
Orlando -  Aaron Afflalo?  Al Harrington?  Jameer Nelson?  Glen Davis?  One player himself wouldn't get them under the threshold and they'd need to make another deal.
Chicago - I can't see them making a move.
NYK - I don't see them making a move.

Other teams possibly looking to dump players or contracts:

Toronto -  Steve Novak?
Phoenix -  Channing Frye?
Minnesota -  JJ Barea?

Suppose Houston wants to play in the free agent pool again.  The trade exception will take one of Asik or Lin.  If Danny signs someone else to a non-guarantees 2014 deal, like White or Shav this year, Bogans and that player can completely absorb the other.  Golden state paid heavily to create room for Iggy this year.

Right now we're too near the hard cap to use most or all of the exception this season, anyway.  If it gets used, I expect it will be next July 10 or 11.

That's the way I see things also, saltover. The TE for the 2013-14 season is virtually useless as all it does is allow the team to absorb salary and for this season, they won't be able to. But once the 2014-15 season starts and we shed some salary(Bogans, Humphries, Brooks, Melo, possibly others if Danny makes trades for a team's expiring contract), then that TE could be used to trade for a player another team wants to get rid of or sign and trade a player to Boston. But the window to use it will be very small, like somewhere between 2 weeks and a day or so.

[Cman]

I'll reserve judgement on this until it turns into a player. The TE has to be realized by this time next year, so not much room for maneuvering there (especially given that we're confined to a hard cap this season, and are already closer than the full value of the TE from it).

I disagree. I think we can judge now that DA did well to get the TE. It is good to have the flexibility of a TE, whether it gets used or not.

[Roy H.]

I'll reserve judgement on this until it turns into a player. The TE has to be realized by this time next year, so not much room for maneuvering there (especially given that we're confined to a hard cap this season, and are already closer than the full value of the TE from it).

I disagree. I think we can judge now that DA did well to get the TE. It is good to have the flexibility of a TE, whether it gets used or not.

True.  They're independent things.  Danny acquired a nice trade asset with the TE.  Part two will be determining if he uses it well.

All this excitement reminds me of the 2005 S&T of Antoine Walker to Miami.  We received a TE of a bit over $5 million, which was slightly over the MLE (if I'm recalling this correctly).  A lot of diehards were excited because that TPE would allow us to sign-and-trade for more than the MLE, giving us a competitive advantage.  Instead, we didn't sign any impact players that off-season, splitting the MLE on lesser players (love you, Scal) and not using the bulk of the TE.

[The One]

Not expecting too much from the trade exception because most of them expire without being used.  If a team is looking to trade a player without taking anybody else back, you're not set up for a great haul.

It's not the right time to have a trade exception.  If the Celtics were a contending team, maybe they could use it to acquire a veteran role player they otherwise wouldn't have able to get.  The type of players available for trade exceptions don't seem appropriate for a rebuilding team.

In July 2007, Sam Presti used a $9 million trade exception to gain two future 1st round picks from a Phoenix team desperate to slash payroll (Suns got rid of Kurt Thomas).

One of those picks turned into Serge Ibaka.

You're right though: if Ainge doesn't use the TE, it does the team no good.

Was that the best use of TPE in the past?

Is there an example of how another team used their TPE to get a very good player?

[nickagneta]

Not expecting too much from the trade exception because most of them expire without being used.  If a team is looking to trade a player without taking anybody else back, you're not set up for a great haul.

It's not the right time to have a trade exception.  If the Celtics were a contending team, maybe they could use it to acquire a veteran role player they otherwise wouldn't have able to get.  The type of players available for trade exceptions don't seem appropriate for a rebuilding team.

In July 2007, Sam Presti used a $9 million trade exception to gain two future 1st round picks from a Phoenix team desperate to slash payroll (Suns got rid of Kurt Thomas).

One of those picks turned into Serge Ibaka.

You're right though: if Ainge doesn't use the TE, it does the team no good.

Was that the best use of TPE in the past?

Is there an example of how another team used their TPE to get a very good player?

Utah and Al Jefferson.

[Moranis]

Not expecting too much from the trade exception because most of them expire without being used.  If a team is looking to trade a player without taking anybody else back, you're not set up for a great haul.

It's not the right time to have a trade exception.  If the Celtics were a contending team, maybe they could use it to acquire a veteran role player they otherwise wouldn't have able to get.  The type of players available for trade exceptions don't seem appropriate for a rebuilding team.

In July 2007, Sam Presti used a $9 million trade exception to gain two future 1st round picks from a Phoenix team desperate to slash payroll (Suns got rid of Kurt Thomas).

One of those picks turned into Serge Ibaka.

You're right though: if Ainge doesn't use the TE, it does the team no good.

Was that the best use of TPE in the past?

Is there an example of how another team used their TPE to get a very good player?

Utah and Al Jefferson.

Lakers and Nash (though that can be debated on how good it was).

[WeMadeIt17]

Can Danny turn around and use that this off-season?

[nickagneta]

Can Danny turn around and use that this off-season?

Not without some other deals going down first that moves salary. Someone can correct me if I am wrong but being over the soft luxury threshold while doing a sign and trade that brings in a player(Bogans) gives the Celtics a hard cap this year of $75+ million. They are just below the luxury tax line of $71.75 million right now. That mean's, at most, the Celtics can add a little less than $4 million in salary still this year. With the TE at $10.3 million, it doesn't look likely, without some other trades that significantly reduce the C's salary, to use the TE until between the end of  the 2013-14 season and until July 11, 2014, the very beginning of the 2014-15 season.