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Offline Tr1boy

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I'm not stating every prospect who has a dad as a basketball coach will be a better player. But its good to know all three of these promosing rookies have the skills plus a father as a basketball coach. You get "inside" information, tips, analysis of other players and yourself, how to improve your mechanics, approach , mental support etc.  It really can accelerate your mental development to the game

I also noticed some of these kids have tremendous pressure to play well to prove to their fathers or gain approvals from them. And whose to know thats the case with our young three. But they all do have somethings in common such as good bbiq, playing a complete game on both ends of the court and playing with a high motor. Coincidence?



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I am finding out that there is definitely something to this.

For instance, I am an amateur basketball coach and have been teaching my nine year old fundamentals and thinking the game since he was able to walk.  This clearly shows on the court when he plays same age and older kids.

Certainly not saying my son will ever be a pro (or play college) or anything else.  But clearly, kids that are coached regularly gain a distinct advantage over other kids.  Talent still trumps all of course.

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I am finding out that there is definitely something to this.

For instance, I am an amateur basketball coach and have been teaching my nine year old fundamentals and thinking the game since he was able to walk.  This clearly shows on the court when he plays same age and older kids.

Certainly not saying my son will ever be a pro (or play college) or anything else.  But clearly, kids that are coached regularly gain a distinct advantage over other kids.  Talent still trumps all of course.

great points. Especially the last sentence.

I don't even think Jordan had a very high bbiq, but his talent was out of this world. Teams knew prob what he was going to do on the court but they still couldn't stop him.

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It definitely helps. Fundamentals, skills, work ethic....

These three will only get better because they have the background that teaches them how to put in the work.

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I don't even think Jordan had a very high bbiq, but his talent was out of this world. Teams knew prob what he was going to do on the court but they still couldn't stop him.
Maybe.

It is possible that Jordan was so good, that he could have a more narrow understanding of the game compared to someone like Scalabrine. Scalabrine needs to understand everything to find a role on the floor. Jordan can dictate what his role is.

There is also the fact that everyone needs to bring enough to the table to contribute. Those who lack in athleticism needs to have a lot of something else to be a contributor.

Sadly, Austin Rivers is a coach's son, and his BBIQ seems suspect. It is possible that players that seem clueless may in fact have high BBIQs. It could be that their instincts and trust in their talent cause them to ignore what they know intellectually to be the smarter play.

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Reminds me of Kirk Hinrich. I always liked his game and while not the most talented player, he usually plays smart and hard with good fundamentals.

I mean, he can do a little bit of everything and i think that's always a product of being around the game from a very young age in a good way. You try to better yourself in all aspects of basketbal because you work out in very focused way instead of just playing.

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Pressey's dad played in the NBA in the Bird Era too.  That helps a lot.

I have seen plenty of coaches sons that could not play a lick.   It generally helps but a lot depends on how good a player or coach their dad was or is folks.  Just because Dad is a coach means nothing if Dad doesn't know his butt from a hole in the ground.   I think it helps if they are higher than a high school coach because that is where coaching becomes a full time profession.  There are some good high school coaches but grade schools are full of a lot or horrible coaches.

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I am finding out that there is definitely something to this.

For instance, I am an amateur basketball coach and have been teaching my nine year old fundamentals and thinking the game since he was able to walk.  This clearly shows on the court when he plays same age and older kids.

Certainly not saying my son will ever be a pro (or play college) or anything else.  But clearly, kids that are coached regularly gain a distinct advantage over other kids.  Talent still trumps all of course.

great points. Especially the last sentence.

I don't even think Jordan had a very high bbiq, but his talent was out of this world. Teams knew prob what he was going to do on the court but they still couldn't stop him.

Makes sense that athletic talent and size (though I don't know what happened with Pressey!) would be passed down to coaches' sons too.

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from wiki - phil's dad ,,,,

Paul Matthew Pressey (born December 24, 1958 in Richmond, Virginia) is an American former professional basketball player. Pressey is widely, though unofficially, credited[by whom?] with being the originator of the point forward position, combining the attributes of a point guard and forward. While playing small forward for the Milwaukee Bucks in the 1980s, Pressey took on many of the ball handling duties, even leading the team in assists for five straight years. He participated in the 1986 NBA Slam Dunk Contest, finishing in 6th place out of 8.

Pressey, along with John Johnson, served as a model for later players taking on the point forward role.

In 1992–93 he came out of retirement while an assistant coach with the Golden State Warriors to help the team deal with many injuries to other players. He played 18 games before getting injured too.

His daughter[1] attended the University of California, Berkeley and was a member of the Golden Bear volleyball squad that was a semifinalist at the women's 2007 NCAA Final Four. His sons Matt (Paul Jr.)[2] and Phil[3] played basketball for Missouri.[4]

In 2010, Pressey became an assistant coach for the Cleveland Cavaliers.[5] He served in that role until 2013.[6]

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Pressey's dad was Doc's assistant in the Al Jefferson's era, for what that's worth, 2004-2006 IIRC.
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So we know we r not going to have a team full of melo, 1st year ab.

None of these guys have looked lost so far and know how to play. No doubt they still need seasoning and to build their bodies but at least full mode tanking is out of the question. This is going to be a good year of efforts and stealing some wins

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you think fab melos dad coached basketball?

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Paul Matthew Pressey (born December 24, 1958 in Richmond, Virginia) is an American former professional basketball player. Pressey is widely, though unofficially, credited[by whom?] with being the originator of the point forward position, combining the attributes of a point guard and forward. While playing small forward for the Milwaukee Bucks in the 1980s, Pressey took on many of the ball handling duties, even leading the team in assists for five straight years. He participated in the 1986 NBA Slam Dunk Contest, finishing in 6th place out of 8.

Larry was a point forward too.

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Paul Matthew Pressey (born December 24, 1958 in Richmond, Virginia) is an American former professional basketball player. Pressey is widely, though unofficially, credited[by whom?] with being the originator of the point forward position, combining the attributes of a point guard and forward. While playing small forward for the Milwaukee Bucks in the 1980s, Pressey took on many of the ball handling duties, even leading the team in assists for five straight years. He participated in the 1986 NBA Slam Dunk Contest, finishing in 6th place out of 8.

Larry was a point forward too.
Did Bird regularly bring the ball up the court, like Pippen, or did he just initiate the offense when already in the half court?

I think of point forward as a guy who will dribble with the ball to start the offense, not just a forward who is a genius passer.

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you think fab melos dad coached basketball?

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