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Re: Celts complete Nets trade; D.J. White also sent to NJ
« Reply #30 on: July 12, 2013, 08:49:18 PM »

Offline EDWARDO

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Potentially:

A. Pierce for Humphries and Kris Joseph
B. KG for Wallace
C. Terry for Bogans
D. DJ White for Brooks


Let make some comparison

A. Pierce for Humphries and Kris Joseph...inappropriate not well for Cs team, PPp was the captain and very good scorer
B. KG for Wallace...not good for Cs team, because KG is much better defensive player
C. Terry for Bogans...50-50
D. DJ White for Brooks 50-50 but does not change anything

So, the game winner is Prokorov


assume this is a joke, right?

Re: Celts complete Nets trade; D.J. White also sent to NJ
« Reply #31 on: July 12, 2013, 08:50:49 PM »

Offline eugen

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Potentially:

A. Pierce for Humphries and Kris Joseph
B. KG for Wallace
C. Terry for Bogans
D. DJ White for Brooks


Let make some comparison

A. Pierce for Humphries and Kris Joseph...inappropriate not well for Cs team
B. KG for Wallace...not good for Cs team, because KG is much better defensive player
C. Terry for Bogans...50-50
D. DJ White for Brooks 50-50 but does not change anything

So, the game winner is Prokorov


  Did you not know that we got some draft picks in the trade?

Draft picks are anonymous unpredictable choices. One Lebron or Koby is coming out 1 time in 10 years.
« Last Edit: July 12, 2013, 09:00:16 PM by eugen »

Re: Celts complete Nets trade; D.J. White also sent to NJ
« Reply #32 on: July 12, 2013, 09:05:00 PM »

Offline greenhead85

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the trade was for draft picks

Plus for the salaries to work and moving on for the rebuilding process.

Re: Celts complete Nets trade; D.J. White also sent to NJ
« Reply #33 on: July 12, 2013, 11:41:08 PM »

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Potentially:

A. Pierce for Humphries and Kris Joseph
B. KG for Wallace
C. Terry for Bogans
D. DJ White for Brooks


Let make some comparison

A. Pierce for Humphries and Kris Joseph...inappropriate not well for Cs team
B. KG for Wallace...not good for Cs team, because KG is much better defensive player
C. Terry for Bogans...50-50
D. DJ White for Brooks 50-50 but does not change anything

So, the game winner is Prokorov


  Did you not know that we got some draft picks in the trade?

Draft picks are anonymous unpredictable choices. One Lebron or Koby is coming out 1 time in 10 years.

So, based on your logic, draft picks aren't worth anything (?!?!?).  You can't be serious.
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Re: Celts complete Nets trade; D.J. White also sent to NJ
« Reply #34 on: July 12, 2013, 11:45:18 PM »

Offline eugen

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Potentially:

A. Pierce for Humphries and Kris Joseph
B. KG for Wallace
C. Terry for Bogans
D. DJ White for Brooks


Let make some comparison

A. Pierce for Humphries and Kris Joseph...inappropriate not well for Cs team
B. KG for Wallace...not good for Cs team, because KG is much better defensive player
C. Terry for Bogans...50-50
D. DJ White for Brooks 50-50 but does not change anything

So, the game winner is Prokorov


  Did you not know that we got some draft picks in the trade?

Draft picks are anonymous unpredictable choices. One Lebron or Koby is coming out 1 time in 10 years.

So, based on your logic, draft picks aren't worth anything (?!?!?).  You can't be serious.

Draft picks are lottery...do you know what is a lottery?
« Last Edit: July 13, 2013, 12:04:08 AM by eugen »

Re: Celts complete Nets trade; D.J. White also sent to NJ
« Reply #35 on: July 12, 2013, 11:45:31 PM »

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Potentially:

A. Pierce for Humphries and Kris Joseph
B. KG for Wallace
C. Terry for Bogans
D. DJ White for Brooks


Let make some comparison

A. Pierce for Humphries and Kris Joseph...inappropriate not well for Cs team
B. KG for Wallace...not good for Cs team, because KG is much better defensive player
C. Terry for Bogans...50-50
D. DJ White for Brooks 50-50 but does not change anything

So, the game winner is Prokorov


  Did you not know that we got some draft picks in the trade?

Draft picks are anonymous unpredictable choices. One Lebron or Koby is coming out 1 time in 10 years.

But good young players come out every single year.  You can win a title with a group of 7 really good players instead of 3 max guys and a bunch of minimum salary guys.

Re: Celts complete Nets trade; D.J. White also sent to NJ
« Reply #36 on: July 12, 2013, 11:50:49 PM »

Offline eugen

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Potentially:

A. Pierce for Humphries and Kris Joseph
B. KG for Wallace
C. Terry for Bogans
D. DJ White for Brooks


Let make some comparison

A. Pierce for Humphries and Kris Joseph...inappropriate not well for Cs team
B. KG for Wallace...not good for Cs team, because KG is much better defensive player
C. Terry for Bogans...50-50
D. DJ White for Brooks 50-50 but does not change anything

So, the game winner is Prokorov


  Did you not know that we got some draft picks in the trade?

Draft picks are anonymous unpredictable choices. One Lebron or Koby is coming out 1 time in 10 years.

But good young players come out every single year.  You can win a title with a group of 7 really good players instead of 3 max guys and a bunch of minimum salary guys.

Well mentioned by you dude ..."good players". But to win a title you need "great players" and at least to have 2 or of them. But recenlty no great players are coming around during pick choices.
« Last Edit: July 12, 2013, 11:58:05 PM by eugen »

Re: Celts complete Nets trade; D.J. White also sent to NJ
« Reply #37 on: July 13, 2013, 04:47:40 AM »

Offline LooseCannon

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I don't get the reported size of the trade exception. It should be bigger.

Pierce, Garnett, Terry, and White combine for just over $34 mil ($34.4 mil if Terry's trade kicker of 7.5% increases his salary for trade purposes).

The players coming back, minus Bogan's undetermined contract, add up to $24.1 mil.

[Edit: I think I see why it might be that small, if the salaries aren't being aggregated together on each side.]
Why wouldn't the C's do it as one big deal? All splitting the deals up does is diminish the trade exception.

I am not sure I trust this nets blog that seems to be the only source to have the exact number. I think it'll end up being closer to 5 MM.

I think a 5 MM trade exception plus three first is pretty fair for Kg Pierce and Terry.

You can only pick up a trade exception in a deal in which salaries are not aggregated.  The trick is to be able to split out a non-aggregated trade with the widest gap in salary between the players being traded for each other.  The largest trade exception is when you can massage the numbers so that a player is effectively being traded for nothing.
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Re: Celts complete Nets trade; D.J. White also sent to NJ
« Reply #38 on: July 13, 2013, 06:16:48 AM »

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Well mentioned by you dude ..."good players". But to win a title you need "great players" and at least to have 2 or of them. But recenlty no great players are coming around during pick choices.

I'm sorry but now you're just trolling.  The 2014 NBA draft coming up is expected to be the deepest and most star studded in years.  We could have generational players coming out of the top 5.  Ever heard of Wiggins, Randle, or Parker?

Read and educate yourself:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nba/news/20130712/nba-draft-2014-andrew-wiggins-julius-randle-marcus-smart/

Re: Celts complete Nets trade; D.J. White also sent to NJ
« Reply #39 on: July 13, 2013, 10:02:25 AM »

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Potentially:

A. Pierce for Humphries and Kris Joseph
B. KG for Wallace
C. Terry for Bogans
D. DJ White for Brooks


Let make some comparison

A. Pierce for Humphries and Kris Joseph...inappropriate not well for Cs team
B. KG for Wallace...not good for Cs team, because KG is much better defensive player
C. Terry for Bogans...50-50
D. DJ White for Brooks 50-50 but does not change anything

So, the game winner is Prokorov


  Did you not know that we got some draft picks in the trade?

Draft picks are anonymous unpredictable choices. One Lebron or Koby is coming out 1 time in 10 years.

But good young players come out every single year.  You can win a title with a group of 7 really good players instead of 3 max guys and a bunch of minimum salary guys.

Well mentioned by you dude ..."good players". But to win a title you need "great players" and at least to have 2 or of them. But recenlty no great players are coming around during pick choices.

So how do the celtics win a championship if ey can't draft anyone ?
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

quoting 'Greg B' on RealGM after 2017 trade deadline.
Read that last line again. One more time.

Re: Celts complete Nets trade; D.J. White also sent to NJ
« Reply #40 on: July 13, 2013, 11:15:11 AM »

Offline eugen

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Potentially:

A. Pierce for Humphries and Kris Joseph
B. KG for Wallace
C. Terry for Bogans
D. DJ White for Brooks


Let make some comparison

A. Pierce for Humphries and Kris Joseph...inappropriate not well for Cs team
B. KG for Wallace...not good for Cs team, because KG is much better defensive player
C. Terry for Bogans...50-50
D. DJ White for Brooks 50-50 but does not change anything

So, the game winner is Prokorov


  Did you not know that we got some draft picks in the trade?

Draft picks are anonymous unpredictable choices. One Lebron or Koby is coming out 1 time in 10 years.

But good young players come out every single year.  You can win a title with a group of 7 really good players instead of 3 max guys and a bunch of minimum salary guys.

Well mentioned by you dude ..."good players". But to win a title you need "great players" and at least to have 2 or of them. But recenlty no great players are coming around during pick choices.

So how do the celtics win a championship if ey can't draft anyone ?

In 2007 they did not based the championship team using draft players but geting via trade stars like KG and Ray and geting usefull experienced players like Casell, PJ Brown etc.
« Last Edit: July 13, 2013, 11:24:39 AM by eugen »

Re: Celts complete Nets trade; D.J. White also sent to NJ
« Reply #41 on: July 13, 2013, 10:27:24 PM »

Offline LGC88

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Potentially:

A. Pierce for Humphries and Kris Joseph
B. KG for Wallace
C. Terry for Bogans
D. DJ White for Brooks


Let make some comparison

A. Pierce for Humphries and Kris Joseph...inappropriate not well for Cs team
B. KG for Wallace...not good for Cs team, because KG is much better defensive player
C. Terry for Bogans...50-50
D. DJ White for Brooks 50-50 but does not change anything

So, the game winner is Prokorov


  Did you not know that we got some draft picks in the trade?

Draft picks are anonymous unpredictable choices. One Lebron or Koby is coming out 1 time in 10 years.

But good young players come out every single year.  You can win a title with a group of 7 really good players instead of 3 max guys and a bunch of minimum salary guys.

Well mentioned by you dude ..."good players". But to win a title you need "great players" and at least to have 2 or of them. But recenlty no great players are coming around during pick choices.

So how do the celtics win a championship if ey can't draft anyone ?

In 2007 they did not based the championship team using draft players but geting via trade stars like KG and Ray and geting usefull experienced players like Casell, PJ Brown etc.

You are right! But guess how we acquire KG? By giving 1st round picks...

Re: Celts complete Nets trade; D.J. White also sent to NJ
« Reply #42 on: July 13, 2013, 10:30:38 PM »

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Potentially:

A. Pierce for Humphries and Kris Joseph
B. KG for Wallace
C. Terry for Bogans
D. DJ White for Brooks


Let make some comparison

A. Pierce for Humphries and Kris Joseph...inappropriate not well for Cs team
B. KG for Wallace...not good for Cs team, because KG is much better defensive player
C. Terry for Bogans...50-50
D. DJ White for Brooks 50-50 but does not change anything

So, the game winner is Prokorov


  Did you not know that we got some draft picks in the trade?

Draft picks are anonymous unpredictable choices. One Lebron or Koby is coming out 1 time in 10 years.

  Sure, they're unpredictable, but that doesn't somehow mean that you ignore them when you consider which team got the better deal in a trade.