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Re: Expect G. Wallace to start to increase trade value
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2013, 12:54:12 PM »

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Better trading Bass who had a decent year and not a horrible contract.

Why not do the same selling with Humphries that you plan for Wallace? Give him the minutes early in the year he was getting in 11-12 an let Sully ease his way back while KO gets some grabage minutes and learns from the vets.

1. Who's gonna bit at taking Hump after this past season and
2. What would we really get back? I find it hard to beleive we get a real cap releif if someone takes on an expirin contract (even at 12 mil)
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Re: Expect G. Wallace to start to increase trade value
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2013, 01:04:46 PM »

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We need to find out who the teams are who need to get to the salary floor and perhaps spend a draft pick to dump salary and get back a second pick. Apparently teams can sell draft picks right up to the draft spot. Isn't that how we acquired Rondo in the 1st place by paying a some cash to Phoenix for the right to draft Rondo in Phoenix's spot.
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Re: Expect G. Wallace to start to increase trade value
« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2013, 01:04:48 PM »

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2. What would we really get back? I find it hard to beleive we get a real cap releif if someone takes on an expirin contract (even at 12 mil)

Here's one scenario.  The Pistons actually end up in contention for a playoff spot.  Charlie "Cancerman" Villanueva is either sucking worse than usual or injured and out for the season.  In an attempt to bolster their big man depth, Detroit trade the expiring contract of Villanueva for the expiring contract of Humphries.  Detroit improves their team.  Boston saves a bit of money and perhaps increases its ability to make a deadline deal to acquire a useful player for the future from a team that has decided to tank and have a fire sale without dipping into the luxury tax.
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Re: Expect G. Wallace to start to increase trade value
« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2013, 01:08:05 PM »

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Don't think so. Wallace was one of the worst starters in the league last year. Starting him will likely just reinforce that. If you want to help his value, I think you make him Green's backup and play him 15-20mpg against the other's team 2nd unit. If he looks like the Wallace of old in limited time, a playoff team might see him as a potential final piece and overpay (or at least be willing...)

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« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2013, 01:09:50 PM »

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I think Humphries or Sullinger should start ahead of Bass at center. They are both superior undersized centers than Bass due to their superior rebounding.

Olynyk will likely be a better option than Bass at center also.
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« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2013, 01:23:45 PM »

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would the numbers work if we traded Wallace to Houston for Asik?

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« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2013, 01:25:08 PM »

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would the numbers work if we traded Wallace to Houston for Asik?
I think so, if they don't it'd be really close.

Houston would never do that trade though.

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« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2013, 01:28:00 PM »

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this just makes it so hard to figure out who's starting where

lots of assume jeff should still start, but who's to say that happens? and then what if jeff starts at the 4?
what do u then do with Sully, Bass, Kelly?

I think the current guard spots make sense, esp if you have Pressey. But to have Sully and Kelly come off the bench would be weird...and then what happens to Brandon?


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« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2013, 01:29:28 PM »

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I think we'll love him as a Celtic

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I love wallace's husle,it is contagious.add that to bradley,lee,sully and now kelly.hell thats an all hustle five.pretty exciting to watch in my opinion

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« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2013, 01:40:07 PM »

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would the numbers work if we traded Wallace to Houston for Asik?
I think so, if they don't it'd be really close.

Houston would never do that trade though.

They would if you threw in Sullinger and a sufficient number of draft picks.
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« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2013, 02:00:07 PM »

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would the numbers work if we traded Wallace to Houston for Asik?
I think so, if they don't it'd be really close.

Houston would never do that trade though.

They would if you threw in Sullinger and a sufficient number of draft picks.
I don't think they would.

They're building to win now with Howard/Harden. Asset collection time is over. If Asik is traded now it needs to be a win now move.

Re: Expect G. Wallace to start to increase trade value
« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2013, 02:10:18 PM »

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would the numbers work if we traded Wallace to Houston for Asik?
I think so, if they don't it'd be really close.

Houston would never do that trade though.

They would if you threw in Sullinger and a sufficient number of draft picks.
I don't think they would.

They're building to win now with Howard/Harden. Asset collection time is over. If Asik is traded now it needs to be a win now move.

Now that they have their stars, they don't want to be a team like the Knicks with little ability to improve their team. 

Also, adding Sullinger plus enough draft picks so that they can potentially use them to move Jeremy Lin's contract for a better player would fit the "win now" scenario.  Of course, the Celtics would be massively overpaying if they gave up those assets just to dump Wallace's contract.
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« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2013, 02:19:44 PM »

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would the numbers work if we traded Wallace to Houston for Asik?
I think so, if they don't it'd be really close.

Houston would never do that trade though.

They would if you threw in Sullinger and a sufficient number of draft picks.
I don't think they would.

They're building to win now with Howard/Harden. Asset collection time is over. If Asik is traded now it needs to be a win now move.

Now that they have their stars, they don't want to be a team like the Knicks with little ability to improve their team. 

Also, adding Sullinger plus enough draft picks so that they can potentially use them to move Jeremy Lin's contract for a better player would fit the "win now" scenario.  Of course, the Celtics would be massively overpaying if they gave up those assets just to dump Wallace's contract.

Houston would bite if you tied Rondo to that Wallace contract, I bet.


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Re: Expect G. Wallace to start to increase trade value
« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2013, 02:26:15 PM »

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Start of the Season:

PG: A. Bradley (Rondo won't be back yet)
SG: C. Lee (Stevens will get the most out of his hustle and rebuild his confidence)
SF:  J. Green
PF:  The Klynyk (Sullinger won't be back yet)
C:  ?  (No idea...my thought is Humphries right now

I see this as a possible Opening Day lineup:

PG: Pressey
SG: Bradley
SF: Green
PF: Sully if back from back,if not then KO
C: Humphries.

Pressey is already light years ahead of AB as a point, albeit a turnover -prone one.

Also both Pressey's and AB's D will be impressive to watch in tandem.

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« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2013, 02:30:29 PM »

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would the numbers work if we traded Wallace to Houston for Asik?
I think so, if they don't it'd be really close.

Houston would never do that trade though.

They would if you threw in Sullinger and a sufficient number of draft picks.
I don't think they would.

They're building to win now with Howard/Harden. Asset collection time is over. If Asik is traded now it needs to be a win now move.

Now that they have their stars, they don't want to be a team like the Knicks with little ability to improve their team. 

Also, adding Sullinger plus enough draft picks so that they can potentially use them to move Jeremy Lin's contract for a better player would fit the "win now" scenario.  Of course, the Celtics would be massively overpaying if they gave up those assets just to dump Wallace's contract.

Houston would bite if you tied Rondo to that Wallace contract, I bet.
Yeah that'd be about it.

Asik is an asset himself and probably a more coveted one than Sullinger and future picks.