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Who would you like to see starting this season?

Jared Sullinger
Kelly Olynyk
Both
Neither

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Re: Poll: Sully vs Olynyk Starting?
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2013, 10:41:03 AM »

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Both will start. Eventually anyways. Sully started last year and can take care of business under the basket and olynyk on the perimeter. But strangely i see olynyk as our post guy offensively with sully out on top of the key passing, setting picks, crashing the boards. On defense other way around. If you count jeff green helping out on the inside and rondo rebounding ability, we should be fine

Re: Poll: Sully vs Olynyk Starting?
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2013, 10:56:08 AM »

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I'll be happy w/:
- Sully/Olynyk
- Sully/Faveroni
- Olynyk/Colton
- Hump/Melo

Seriously, I don't care that much. I want to see the everyone get a shot to show what they've got and have a chance to develop. The right combination will be found by Brad Stevens and company, and I imagine the starting lineup will change more than a few times depending on how things shake out.

We know who Bass and Hump are already. Everyone else, is who I'm excited about seeing. I actually don't mind Bass and Hump because they've both got something to add in what they do. Hump is a strong rebounder but not that dynamic. Bass is a solid jump shooter and defender, but not a huge rebounder.

All in all, I think it comes down to Rondo, Avery, Green, Sully/Olynyk & one of the bigs to determine how well we do.

Re: Poll: Sully vs Olynyk Starting?
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2013, 10:56:13 AM »

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To me it would seem that only one of these two can start, as neither offer the rim protection required to be a Center. So who would you like to see starting at PF on day 1? Who has the better style of play and long term potential from what you have seen?

To me i think Olynyk will have a better offensive game, but needs a solid Center to grab rebounds and cover up his defense. Sully we have seen can rebound, play defense and get his hands dirty, but his height may cause him trouble from being a go-to player down on the block.

Also yes, jumping the gun here on Olynyk, but im just curious to see the first thought comparisons.

Depth chart

C - Bass, Faverani, Randolph, Iverson
PF - Sullivan, Olynyk, Bass, Green
SF - Green, Olynyk, Mitchell?
SG - Bradley, Lee, Crawford
PG - Rondo, Pressy?, Johnson-Odom?

Re: Sully vs Olynyk Starting?
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2013, 11:06:58 AM »

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I understand where you're coming from, but in the past this organization has made getting Duncan its goal, and then getting Oden/Durant its goal.

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Re: Poll: Sully vs Olynyk Starting?
« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2013, 11:08:20 AM »

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To me it would seem that only one of these two can start, as neither offer the rim protection required to be a Center. So who would you like to see starting at PF on day 1? Who has the better style of play and long term potential from what you have seen?

To me i think Olynyk will have a better offensive game, but needs a solid Center to grab rebounds and cover up his defense. Sully we have seen can rebound, play defense and get his hands dirty, but his height may cause him trouble from being a go-to player down on the block.

Also yes, jumping the gun here on Olynyk, but im just curious to see the first thought comparisons.

Depth chart

C - Bass, Faverani, Randolph, Iverson
PF - Sullivan, Olynyk, Bass, Green
SF - Green, Olynyk, Mitchell?
SG - Bradley, Lee, Crawford
PG - Rondo, Pressy?, Johnson-Odom?
Um, there's no player called "Sullivan" on the roster, Faverani is not making it out of training camp, Johnson-Odom is not a point guard, and Olynyk is not a small forward. Oh, and no, Bass isn't starting at center.
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Re: Poll: Sully vs Olynyk Starting?
« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2013, 11:15:44 AM »

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No shot-blocking? Minny waived the Steamer three days ago, just throwing that out there.

Re: Poll: Sully vs Olynyk Starting?
« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2013, 11:22:46 AM »

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Both can start and/or get some decent minutes, Sully at C in this case adjusting the positioning according with the opponent, but we should search for another Center while getting rid of Humphries ASAP.
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Re: Poll: Sully vs Olynyk Starting?
« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2013, 11:39:35 AM »

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To me it would seem that only one of these two can start, as neither offer the rim protection required to be a Center. So who would you like to see starting at PF on day 1? Who has the better style of play and long term potential from what you have seen?

To me i think Olynyk will have a better offensive game, but needs a solid Center to grab rebounds and cover up his defense. Sully we have seen can rebound, play defense and get his hands dirty, but his height may cause him trouble from being a go-to player down on the block.

Also yes, jumping the gun here on Olynyk, but im just curious to see the first thought comparisons.

Depth chart

C - Bass, Faverani, Randolph, Iverson
PF - Sullivan, Olynyk, Bass, Green
SF - Green, Olynyk, Mitchell?
SG - Bradley, Lee, Crawford
PG - Rondo, Pressy?, Johnson-Odom?
Um, there's no player called "Sullivan" on the roster, Faverani is not making it out of training camp, Johnson-Odom is not a point guard, and Olynyk is not a small forward. Oh, and no, Bass isn't starting at center.

Sullinger could change his name to Sullivan....but they'd still call him Sully ???
Better is asking Bass to switch to O'toole or "Mc" something.

I agree about Faverani. Never seeing the parquet as a player on the Celtics. If he were to do that I would finally buy the tanking conspiracy. Why not just let Colton get extended minutes? That fits the tank and rebuild scenarios just fine.

Re: Poll: Sully vs Olynyk Starting?
« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2013, 11:53:14 AM »

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No shot-blocking? Minny waived the Steamer three days ago, just throwing that out there.

They also may be willing to give away Chris Johnson.
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Re: Poll: Sully vs Olynyk Starting?
« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2013, 12:05:33 PM »

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I'd start Sully & let Olynyk play the part Sully did last year.  6th or 7th man off the bench.  I'd obviously try the Sullinger/Olynyk combination on the floor together depending on matchups.  6-8 minutes per half with the Sullinger/Olynyk combo, one at PF and the other at C.

Rondo/Barbosa(yes, I'd bring him back)/Pressey
Bradley/Lee/Crawford
Green/Wallace
Sullinger/Olynyk/Bass
Humphries/Faverani/Iverson  (Melo to the D-league)

That's 15 on the roster.  I rotate Melo, Iverson, & Pressey in and out of the D-league (IR to the D-league, etc.)

This is as of right now.  I think a lot could shake down with Bass, Humphries, & Faverani (not making the roster).  Still wide open with what Danny could do here if the right package is there.  Wallace could be moved as well, depending on what's out there.


Re: Poll: Sully vs Olynyk Starting?
« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2013, 12:05:54 PM »

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No shot-blocking? Minny waived the Steamer three days ago, just throwing that out there.

They also may be willing to give away Chris Johnson.

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Re: Poll: Sully vs Olynyk Starting?
« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2013, 12:16:20 PM »

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You don't need to be a shot blocker to be a rim defender.  I mean KG's best in Boston was just 1.3 blocks a game and he was under 1 a number of years.  Even the title team had Perkins at 1.5 and Garnett at 1.3 and only Pierce was even at 0.5 a game.  Sure a great shot blocker is nice, but it is far from required.  Heck look no further than Chicago.  Noah is just over 2 a game and Gibson is pretty solid off the bench, but they aren't exactly swatting shots away like crazy people and their defense is off the chain. 

With all of that said, Sullinger and Olynyk have to start given where this team is.  They need to develop and the team needs to figure out what they have in them.  Hopefully they develop and they become the 4/5 for years and years.  Melo also needs to play 10-15 minutes a game to further his development.

Assuming full health this is what I would do with the current team

PG - Rondo 34, Bradley 14
SG - Bradley 20, Brooks 20, Crawford 8
SF - Green 35, Wallace 13
PF - Sullinger 20, Bass 20, Wallace 8
C - Olynyk 20, Melo 15, Bass 8, Iverson 5
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Rotation - D. Daniels, Mitchell, G. Wallace, Melo, Noah
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Re: Poll: Sully vs Olynyk Starting?
« Reply #27 on: July 10, 2013, 12:24:17 PM »

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Sully will start, at least at the start of the season. It will take time for KO to get up to speed, I imagine. And probably better for him to do that against the 2nd string guys in the league.
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Re: Poll: Sully vs Olynyk Starting?
« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2013, 12:25:36 PM »

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Sully will start, at least at the start of the season. It will take time for KO to get up to speed, I imagine. And probably better for him to do that against the 2nd string guys in the league.
Off of a back surgery, I'm not even sure he'll be ready the start of the season.
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Re: Poll: Sully vs Olynyk Starting?
« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2013, 12:34:26 PM »

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Sully will start, at least at the start of the season. It will take time for KO to get up to speed, I imagine. And probably better for him to do that against the 2nd string guys in the league.
Off of a back surgery, I'm not even sure he'll be ready the start of the season.

Ah, right. Good point. I guess it depends on how far along he is....
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