IDEA: Pacers/Celtics

[TeamGreen.dm]

Mahinmi and Granger for Wallace, Bass and a 2nd rounder

It gives them the relief of not having to hurt Granger by starting George over him while healthy. Plus i think Ian Mahinmi is one of the more under rated big men in this league. Wallace provides them a wing player to play behind and further push PG. Bass provides a perfect 2nd punch when West sits.

Now obviously Granger is NOT our future but his contract does expire. Now i do think he could be the perfect Celtic type player, but would need to take a much smaller contract if resigned 6-8 mill

[rondoallaturca]

Granger would be starting alongside George, converting Stephenson into a sixth man role. Granger wouldn't be coming off the bench.

Furhtermore, Indiana has their frontcourt locked up for the longterm and they're hard-pressed to retain George if they trade away Granger's expiring contract for a guy who's on the books for 3 more years at about $10M each year.

Absolutely no way Indiana does this trade.

[Monkhouse]

Mahinmi and Granger for Wallace, Bass and a 2nd rounder

It gives them the relief of not having to hurt Granger by starting George over him while healthy. Plus i think Ian Mahinmi is one of the more under rated big men in this league. Wallace provides them a wing player to play behind and further push PG. Bass provides a perfect 2nd punch when West sits.

Now obviously Granger is NOT our future but his contract does expire. Now i do think he could be the perfect Celtic type player, but would need to take a much smaller contract if resigned 6-8 mill

Your avatar says it all...

I swear Celtic fans are the biggest homers.

I'd take Granger over Wallace anyday even if Granger couldn't even play..

[clover]

Larry wasn't born yesterday.

[TeamGreen.dm]

Granger would be starting alongside George, converting Stephenson into a sixth man role. Granger wouldn't be coming off the bench.

Furhtermore, Indiana has their frontcourt locked up for the longterm and they're hard-pressed to retain George if they trade away Granger's expiring contract for a guy who's on the books for 3 more years at about $10M each year.

Absolutely no way Indiana does this trade.

Mahinmi and Granger for Wallace, Bass and a 2nd rounder

It gives them the relief of not having to hurt Granger by starting George over him while healthy. Plus i think Ian Mahinmi is one of the more under rated big men in this league. Wallace provides them a wing player to play behind and further push PG. Bass provides a perfect 2nd punch when West sits.

Now obviously Granger is NOT our future but his contract does expire. Now i do think he could be the perfect Celtic type player, but would need to take a much smaller contract if resigned 6-8 mill

Your avatar says it all...

I swear Celtic fans are the biggest homers.

I'd take Granger over Wallace anyday even if Granger couldn't even play..

I believe after the last two years they got a glance of their team looks like with and without Granger. Team seemed a tad better WithOut. Wallace won't take shots away from George, Granger will. He runs the ISO as much as George, their game is almost identical except Georges advanced Reb ability. Along with the acquisition of Bass, another grind it out player the Pacers would love especially after losing PsychoT.

And yes as a Celtic fan i don't wanna see a tanked season, we already have pieces in place for our future we just need one or two players to push is through to the top. Granger could very well be part of that, with a lesser contract ofc

[rondoallaturca]

You completely missed the point that Indiana needs Granger to retain George. Once again, absolutely no way Indiana makes this trade. The only thing they trade Granger for is an expiring contract, and our only one is Humphries. Granger fills a much bigger need for them than Humphries does.

[gpap]

Mahinmi and Granger for Wallace, Bass and a 2nd rounder

It gives them the relief of not having to hurt Granger by starting George over him while healthy. Plus i think Ian Mahinmi is one of the more under rated big men in this league. Wallace provides them a wing player to play behind and further push PG. Bass provides a perfect 2nd punch when West sits.

Now obviously Granger is NOT our future but his contract does expire. Now i do think he could be the perfect Celtic type player, but would need to take a much smaller contract if resigned 6-8 mill

Your avatar says it all...

I swear Celtic fans are the biggest homers.

I'd take Granger over Wallace anyday even if Granger couldn't even play..

Why not give Gerald Wallace a chance? How does that sound?

[gpap]

I personally wouldn't make this trade.

Danny Granger hasn't been able to stay healthy at all the last couple years.

I'd rather see what Gerald can do.

All things equal, I'd take Wallace over Granger any day of the week.

NOW what I WOULD do is I would see if the Pacers would take Brandon Bass for a sign/trade of Tyler Hansborough.

[LooseCannon]

The Pacers aren't trading Mahinmi unless they have a better backup center lined up.

[ABOS (A bit of Sanity)]

This trade happens In the far away place called Celtic land where we trade one of the worst contracts in the league and a over paid serviceable big  for an expiring contract of an all star and a serviceable big on a much better contract.

Danny to Larry "na dnt worry about it it's all good ill toss you a second too"

[Celtics4ever]

INDY hangs up the phone on this one.

[ABOS (A bit of Sanity)]

I personally wouldn't make this trade.

Danny Granger hasn't been able to stay healthy at all the last couple years.

I'd rather see what Gerald can do.

All things equal, I'd take Wallace over Granger any day of the week.

NOW what I WOULD do is I would see if the Pacers would take Brandon Bass for a sign/trade of Tyler Hansborough.

Very confused why you wouldn't make this trade. Even if Granger never played a mintue for the Cs your shedding an aweful contract. This team is going no where with Wallace on it (even though I've been a long time Wallace fan) as for the rest of the deal bass may be a slightly better overall player but he makes 3 mill more for the same years and plays the same roll Sully and KO will play on this team. Indiana would never do it but from a Celts point of view I dnt see how you wouldn't love that deal. As for Physco T we just drafted our white PF for the future so no thanx.

[TeamGreen.dm]

Thanks everyone for the input. Honestly I'm an advocate of this team we have right now canaactually be formidable in the East. But mediocrity is worst than anything else in the NBA. I think Wallace can go back to 18ppg but its his contract that makes it not worth it

[gpap]

I personally wouldn't make this trade.

Danny Granger hasn't been able to stay healthy at all the last couple years.

I'd rather see what Gerald can do.

All things equal, I'd take Wallace over Granger any day of the week.

NOW what I WOULD do is I would see if the Pacers would take Brandon Bass for a sign/trade of Tyler Hansborough.

Very confused why you wouldn't make this trade. Even if Granger never played a mintue for the Cs your shedding an aweful contract. This team is going no where with Wallace on it (even though I've been a long time Wallace fan) as for the rest of the deal bass may be a slightly better overall player but he makes 3 mill more for the same years and plays the same roll Sully and KO will play on this team. Indiana would never do it but from a Celts point of view I dnt see how you wouldn't love that deal. As for Physco T we just drafted our white PF for the future so no thanx.

You are thinking in terms of just dumping salary. I am thinking in terms of the quality of players.

I am not a Danny Granger fan. Never have been and never will be. Personally, I prefer players to you know, actually play

As for G-Wallace, I think he REALLY just needs Celtics fans to give him a chance. Before he got to that rinky-dinky Brooklyn operation, he was an exceptional player with Charlotte and Portland. Tough defensive player.

Now regarding your statement about having already drafted "our white PF for the future," I am really not sure what that means.

Usually, NBA teams have more than one power forward so if there's a limit on how many forwards a team can have, I am not aware of it. I like Hansborough because (like Wallace) is a tough defensive player who gets under the opposition's skin.

Others are looking at the Celtics from a standpoint of
"let's just see how we can gut this roster and save money" where I am judging it from the quality of the players we have.

[ABOS (A bit of Sanity)]

I personally wouldn't make this trade.

Danny Granger hasn't been able to stay healthy at all the last couple years.

I'd rather see what Gerald can do.

All things equal, I'd take Wallace over Granger any day of the week.

NOW what I WOULD do is I would see if the Pacers would take Brandon Bass for a sign/trade of Tyler Hansborough.

Very confused why you wouldn't make this trade. Even if Granger never played a mintue for the Cs your shedding an aweful contract. This team is going no where with Wallace on it (even though I've been a long time Wallace fan) as for the rest of the deal bass may be a slightly better overall player but he makes 3 mill more for the same years and plays the same roll Sully and KO will play on this team. Indiana would never do it but from a Celts point of view I dnt see how you wouldn't love that deal. As for Physco T we just drafted our white PF for the future so no thanx.

You are thinking in terms of just dumping salary. I am thinking in terms of the quality of players.

I am not a Danny Granger fan. Never have been and never will be. Personally, I prefer players to you know, actually play

As for G-Wallace, I think he REALLY just needs Celtics fans to give him a chance. Before he got to that rinky-dinky Brooklyn operation, he was an exceptional player with Charlotte and Portland. Tough defensive player.

Now regarding your statement about having already drafted "our white PF for the future," I am really not sure what that means.

Usually, NBA teams have more than one power forward so if there's a limit on how many forwards a team can have, I am not aware of it. I like Hansborough because (like Wallace) is a tough defensive player who gets under the opposition's skin.

Others are looking at the Celtics from a standpoint of
"let's just see how we can gut this roster and save money" where I am judging it from the quality of the players we have.

First while I do believe that Wallace will do better for this Celtics team. I think it is unfair to
Say that since he was good on Charlotte three years ago that he will be able to regain that form at his current age (32). While a very talented player he relied heavily on his athletisim which allowed him to cause havoc on the defensive end and in transitions. Guy was a force on a fantasy team. But as his athletisim wains so does his game. He's grossly overpaid and just don't see the fit on a rebuilding team. Obviously if you want the celts to be semi competive this year than he will help. However what is his long term value to this team since he is signed for three more years?

Obviously there is no limits on PF but they hve spent there last two 1st round picks on PF. Mintues at PF should be used to develop those two.

And I'm not sure it's fair too just dismiss the idea of shedding cap. Especially in the case of Wallace who's on such a bad deal.

All in all tho it's a moot point since INdiana would no make this trade