The Problem w/trading Rondo

[EvilEmpire]

There are a few problems with trading Rondo, namely what team out there is so bad that acquiring Rondo does not push them out of the bottom of the lottery. Secondly, after tanking it next year we will be making a run at some of the top FA's, what top FA is going to what to come to a team with no one else to play with. Thirdly, replacing Rondo. he is one of the top 5 PG in the league, excelling in both O and D. If Rondo were in next years draft he goes top 3, in this year draft he goes #1 (the Cavs would have traded the pick).

There is no way to get equal value for Rondo, plus his contract is great. His value is already hurting due to him coming off an injury. I would rather wait until the end of next year to decide whether or not to trade Rondo and see how the chemistry on the team and coach plays out.

[Celtics4ever]

I love RR but I have read some players I would be intrigued if we could get them for him.   Whether the other teams would do is the big question.

[Ogaju]

There are a few problems with trading Rondo, namely what team out there is so bad that acquiring Rondo does not push them out of the bottom of the lottery. Secondly, after tanking it next year we will be making a run at some of the top FA's, what top FA is going to what to come to a team with no one else to play with. Thirdly, replacing Rondo. he is one of the top 5 PG in the league, excelling in both O and D. If Rondo were in next years draft he goes top 3, in this year draft he goes #1 (the Cavs would have traded the pick).

There is no way to get equal value for Rondo, plus his contract is great. His value is already hurting due to him coming off an injury. I would rather wait until the end of next year to decide whether or not to trade Rondo and see how the chemistry on the team and coach plays out.

TP nice post. You cannot trade Rondo I don't know why so many here want him traded. He now has a coach that will get the best out of him. It is frustrating when you are running a team without  a coach.

[LarBrd33]

There are a few problems with trading Rondo, namely what team out there is so bad that acquiring Rondo does not push them out of the bottom of the lottery. Secondly, after tanking it next year we will be making a run at some of the top FA's, what top FA is going to what to come to a team with no one else to play with. Thirdly, replacing Rondo. he is one of the top 5 PG in the league, excelling in both O and D. If Rondo were in next years draft he goes top 3, in this year draft he goes #1 (the Cavs would have traded the pick).

There is no way to get equal value for Rondo, plus his contract is great. His value is already hurting due to him coming off an injury. I would rather wait until the end of next year to decide whether or not to trade Rondo and see how the chemistry on the team and coach plays out.

"what team out there is so bad that acquiring Rondo does not push them out of the bottom of the lottery."  -  Whatever team that trades for Rondo is obviously looking to "win now".


"after tanking it next year we will be making a run at some of the top FA's, what top FA is going to what to come to a team with no one else to play with." ... We will not have cap space next offseason either unless we dump some of these bad contracts.


"Thirdly, replacing Rondo. he is one of the top 5 PG in the league, excelling in both O and D." ...  His defense has slipped noticeably.  He was a top 7 PG.  By next year he could slip out of the top 10.

"If Rondo were in next years draft he goes top 3, in this year draft he goes #1" ... If that were true, I'm certain Ainge would have traded Rondo for the #1 pick.

"plus his contract is great." ... Is it?  He might miss half of next season... then he'll be in a contract year probably looking to flee from Boston. We could lose him for nothing.  Having a disgruntled injured player locked up for 2 seasons on a lotto team isn't what I call a secure situation.  Good luck extending him.


"His value is already hurting due to him coming off an injury." ... It could be hurting worse if he stinks when he comes back.  At least right now there are teams interested.

[aingeforthree]

There are a few problems with trading Rondo, namely what team out there is so bad that acquiring Rondo does not push them out of the bottom of the lottery. Secondly, after tanking it next year we will be making a run at some of the top FA's, what top FA is going to what to come to a team with no one else to play with. Thirdly, replacing Rondo. he is one of the top 5 PG in the league, excelling in both O and D. If Rondo were in next years draft he goes top 3, in this year draft he goes #1 (the Cavs would have traded the pick).

There is no way to get equal value for Rondo, plus his contract is great. His value is already hurting due to him coming off an injury. I would rather wait until the end of next year to decide whether or not to trade Rondo and see how the chemistry on the team and coach plays out.

TP nice post. You cannot trade Rondo I don't know why so many here want him traded. He now has a coach that will get the best out of him. It is frustrating when you are running a team without  a coach.

If he lands you 5-6 great assets, heck yeah you can trade Rondo.  Ainge will only deal Rajon if he gets a kings ransom back in return.

[EvilEmpire]

There are a few problems with trading Rondo, namely what team out there is so bad that acquiring Rondo does not push them out of the bottom of the lottery. Secondly, after tanking it next year we will be making a run at some of the top FA's, what top FA is going to what to come to a team with no one else to play with. Thirdly, replacing Rondo. he is one of the top 5 PG in the league, excelling in both O and D. If Rondo were in next years draft he goes top 3, in this year draft he goes #1 (the Cavs would have traded the pick).

There is no way to get equal value for Rondo, plus his contract is great. His value is already hurting due to him coming off an injury. I would rather wait until the end of next year to decide whether or not to trade Rondo and see how the chemistry on the team and coach plays out.

"what team out there is so bad that acquiring Rondo does not push them out of the bottom of the lottery."
-  Whatever team that trades for Rondo is obviously looking to "win now".

"after tanking it next year we will be making a run at some of the top FA's, what top FA is going to what to come to a team with no one else to play with." ... We will not have cap space next offseason either unless we dump some of these bad contracts.

"Thirdly, replacing Rondo. he is one of the top 5 PG in the league, excelling in both O and D." ...  His defense has slipped noticeably.  He was a top 7 PG.  By next year he could slip out of the top 10.

"If Rondo were in next years draft he goes top 3, in this year draft he goes #1" ... If that were true, I'm certain Ainge would have traded Rondo for the #1 pick.

"plus his contract is great." ... Is it?  He might miss half of next season... then he'll be in a contract year probably looking to flee from Boston. We could lose him for nothing.  Having a disgruntled injured player locked up for 2 seasons on a lotto team isn't what I call a secure situation.  Good luck extending him.

"His value is already hurting due to him coming off an injury." ... It could be hurting worse if he stinks when he comes back.  At least right now there are teams interested.

"what team out there is so bad that acquiring Rondo does not push them out of the bottom of the lottery."
-  Whatever team that trades for Rondo is obviously looking to "win now".
Did you not read what I wrote. Its obvious that Rondo makes a team "win now" because he is that good of a player. Hence the assets coming back, like draft picks won't be worth as much.

"after tanking it next year we will be making a run at some of the top FA's, what top FA is going to what to come to a team with no one else to play with." ... We will not have cap space next offseason either unless we dump some of these bad contracts.
We only have 44.8n million in guaranteed contracts after the 2013-2014 year is up. With the Salary Cap now at 58.5 million we can go after any FA we want. If you had not noticed elite NBA players like playing with other elite players. No one is coming to Boston without Rondo being here.

"Thirdly, replacing Rondo. he is one of the top 5 PG in the league, excelling in both O and D." ...  His defense has slipped noticeably.  He was a top 7 PG.  By next year he could slip out of the top 10.

Wow, I would love to see this list. Just because another PG scores more does not make them a better PG. Next year Rondo moves to the second scoring option on this team hence he is going to be scoring in the 17 to 18 range. If Rondo would have finished the season this past year and continue with the averages for stats he would have been #1 in assists, rebounds, FG% (#17 in scoring but again #1 in FG%), and #6 in steals amongst all PG's.

"If Rondo were in next years draft he goes top 3, in this year draft he goes #1" ... If that were true, I'm certain Ainge would have traded Rondo for the #1 pick.

Rondo for the #1 pick this year, why? The weakest draft at the top in 15 years and your trading a top 20 player. With no franchise players in this year draft Bennett goes number 1. This was a terrible draft class. I'm glad you have nothing to do with player decisions on the Celtics.

"plus his contract is great." ... Is it?  He might miss half of next season... then he'll be in a contract year probably looking to flee from Boston. We could lose him for nothing.  Having a disgruntled injured player locked up for 2 seasons on a lotto team isn't what I call a secure situation.  Good luck extending him.

The only way he missing half the season next year is to tank the year. Rondo gets back by the end of December at the latest. He will stay as long as the Celtic rebuild quickly.

"His value is already hurting due to him coming off an injury." ... It could be hurting worse if he stinks when he comes back.  At least right now there are teams interested.
If Rondo wanted to leave this team and p--- off Ainge it would be easy enough to do it through the Media, forcing Ainges' hand and getting off this team but you have not heard anything negative from Rondo. Elite PG's don't get to FA often, so the interest will be there if Rondo leaves but I'm guessing with a high pick and a elite FA joining the Celtics next year Rondo stays.

[rondoallaturca]

"Thirdly, replacing Rondo. he is one of the top 5 PG in the league, excelling in both O and D." ...  His defense has slipped noticeably.  He was a top 7 PG.  By next year he could slip out of the top 10.

COULD

"If Rondo were in next years draft he goes top 3, in this year draft he goes #1" ... If that were true, I'm certain Ainge would have traded Rondo for the #1 pick.

He meant Rondo would've been #1 this year because I don't think anyone in this year's draft class has a ceiling that even approaches Rondo's. So no, Ainge wouldn't have traded Rondo for the #1 pick.

"plus his contract is great." ... Is it?  He might miss half of next season... then he'll be in a contract year probably looking to flee from Boston. We could lose him for nothing.  Having a disgruntled injured player locked up for 2 seasons on a lotto team isn't what I call a secure situation.  Good luck extending him.

MIGHT. COULD. 

And by the way, it's well-known that Rondo and the C's are looking at opening day as a realistic return date for Rondo. At the very latest, Rondo will be back by the calendar year's end.

"His value is already hurting due to him coming off an injury." ... It could be hurting worse if he stinks when he comes back.  At least right now there are teams interested.

IF

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Example #542 of Rondo trade supporters making false statements and a whole ton of very conditional assumptions to back their (weak) argument.

[NocturnalRebel]

While I agree with tha OP, there's really not a problem with trading Rondo. At least from Danny's side of tha game. If Danny can trade Perk, Paul, KG, release Doc from his contract, he can certainly trade Rondo. To me it's where does Danny feel Rondo fits into this rebuild. Or does he feel Rondo fits at all. Is Rondo really a piece to rebuild around or is Rondo a wrench into tha C's tanking plans if that's what Danny's plans are at all?

I myself would hate to see Rondo traded. He's my favorite PG in tha game. in my opinion, a rare talent and very intelligent. His talents and his ability to take over games and carry a team to a win makes him irreplaceable. Say what you will about Rondo but you can't replace a Rondo and I hope Danny was 152 about not looking to trade him. Rondo is too much talent to give away and I don't understand why a lot of people here have a love jones for trading him.

So while I agree Rondo's talents have a case, I think it's more about where or if he fits in tha C's rebuilding plans. I think he does and I don't see Danny trading him, at least not now.