With the current roster, is the Celts a playoff team??

[CoachBo]

A playoff team?

No.

[LooseCannon]

guys lets not forget how horrible our defense was when KG wasn't on the floor

as of today our starting center is who? Olynyk? thats a big downgrade defensively from KG. we are going to get eaten up inside

On the other hand, the Celtics defense may not be as bad as when KG was on the bench last season if the team isn't trotting out Chris Wilcox and Brandon Bass as centers.

If the Celtics go small and Bass/Humphries end up eating a lot of minutes at center, then it's a problem.  If they find another solution at center (Jason Collins or Greg Stiemsma backed up by Colton Iverson, with a touch of Fab Melo and only occasional smallball?), then maybe the defense has a shot of being above average.

[LatterDayCelticsfan]

I'd love for us to make the playoffs for the sole reason of assassinating the Knick out of the playoffs

[BballTim]

I'd love for us to make the playoffs for the sole reason of assassinating the Knick out of the playoffs

  The ultimate would be to make the playoffs and beat the Nets, with the added bonus of making it to the 2nd round would make it likely we'd be having as much or more playoff success as Doc.

[vjcsmoke]

No it's not.  And I rather it stay that way so we get into the lottery.  I do think I want to trade Humphries expiring for some more trade assets at the deadline though.

IMO lineup

Starting - Sully - Olynyk - Green - AB - Rondo
Bench - Humprhies - Bass - Wallace - Brooks- Lee - Pressey
Extras - Randolph - Crawford - ?

So can this team make the playoffs?? As unreasonable it sounds, i feel Olynyk is the xfactor.  If he starts or not and at worse gives the team 12-14 points a game on a consistent basis, i feel we have a shot to nail 7-8 spot.

I think our defense will be excellent. We have the pieces to be a very good team defending team, with Bradley, Rondo, Green and Sully and Olynyk will be better than expected.

The bench looks pretty solid. Better than last years version. Plus i predict Pressey will make the team and finally give us that 2nd pg we haven't had in a very long time.

But again , unless we can get consistent production from a third player, this will be a very long season.

[TripleOT]

Wallace is garbage offensively, making only 30% of his non-layups last season.  Maybe Rondo can get him in position to score, but 71% of his hoops were assisted last year, and over 90% of his long jumpers. Not a good thing for a $10 million player. 

Humphries is a bum too, just a banger with a long history of putting up middling numbers on losing teams. he's the perfect guy if you're trying to lose games -  let him get a bunch of double-doubles early int he season, and trade his $12m expiring deal at the deadline.

Brooks might be useful as a young scoring SG, something the team needs.  he will benefit from Rondo, since only 40% of his buckets were assisted last year.   Hopefully Rondo's table-setting skills will help him be a more efficient scorer. (Rondo's SG usually is assisted 70%+ of the time).

Unless some changes are made, this is a 35 win team at best.     

   

[Tr1boy]

No it's not.  And I rather it stay that way so we get into the lottery.  I do think I want to trade Humphries expiring for some more trade assets at the deadline though.

IMO lineup

Starting - Sully - Olynyk - Green - AB - Rondo
Bench - Humprhies - Bass - Wallace - Brooks- Lee - Pressey
Extras - Randolph - Crawford - ?

So can this team make the playoffs?? As unreasonable it sounds, i feel Olynyk is the xfactor.  If he starts or not and at worse gives the team 12-14 points a game on a consistent basis, i feel we have a shot to nail 7-8 spot.

I think our defense will be excellent. We have the pieces to be a very good team defending team, with Bradley, Rondo, Green and Sully and Olynyk will be better than expected.

The bench looks pretty solid. Better than last years version. Plus i predict Pressey will make the team and finally give us that 2nd pg we haven't had in a very long time.

But again , unless we can get consistent production from a third player, this will be a very long season.

waiting for the lottery for what?

Do you want to already replace Green with Wiggins? Randle with Sullinger??

Whose to say they will be better. Wiggins right now has no consistent jump shot and there is no guarantee he is the next big thing.  Remember they said Shabazz Muhammad was going to go top three this year if we cameout. How did that turn out?

[Neurotic Guy]

 A late Rondo arrival along with an extended adjustment period as a team will lead to many early losses.  I think they'll improve and eventually be in a lot of highly contested games -- many of which they'll lose due to inexperience, lack of upper echelon talent, and poor FT shooting from their otherwise great PG. 

I can't predict because I have no idea, but I do hope that this becomes a team that works hard, realizes growth as a team throughout the year, but does not quite get good enough to surpass 30 wins.

[bfrombleacher]

Potential 1st round match up if Celts make playoffs...

BOS v BKN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9kDT44DBXs

[Tr1boy]

A late Rondo arrival along with an extended adjustment period as a team will lead to many early losses.  I think they'll improve and eventually be in a lot of highly contested games -- many of which they'll lose due to inexperience, lack of upper echelon talent, and poor FT shooting from their otherwise great PG. 

I can't predict because I have no idea, but I do hope that this becomes a team that works hard, realizes growth as a team throughout the year, but does not quite get good enough to surpass 30 wins.

it's your opinion. But i disagree with poor FT. Sully , Oly, Green are over 70 percent ft shooters. Rondo and AB about 65 percent.  Humphries, Bass, Wallace, Lee are also all pretty good FT shooters.

[Who]

Nope, probably not.

I don't think they are that far off though.

[Tr1boy]

Nope, probably not.

I don't think they are that far off though.

you have the locks

Brooklyn
Miami
Indy
Chi
Knicks

but then what??

I'm not saying Celtics are better but have just as good as chance as Detroit (no pg), Atl (no go to scorer), Wash (?), 76rs (no), Bucks (didn't get better), Charlotte (no), raptors (no pg).

So unless there are a team or two deemed locks outside of the 5 listed above, its anybodys game.

I think ppl are discounting the job Wallace and Humphries did for Brooklyn last year. Trust me it was not all Deron Williams and Brook Lopez. Outside of Joe Johnson, guys like Wallace and Humphries did a very good job to help that brooklyn get the 4th seed

[Who]

Nope, probably not.

I don't think they are that far off though.

you have the locks

Brooklyn
Miami
Indy
Chi
Knicks

but then what??

I'm not saying Celtics are better but have just as good as chance as Detroit (no pg), Atl (no go to scorer), Wash (?), 76rs (no), Bucks (didn't get better), Charlotte (no), raptors (no pg).

So unless there are a team or two deemed locks outside of the 5 listed above, its anybodys game.

I think ppl are discounting the job Wallace and Humphries did for Brooklyn last year. Trust me it was not all Deron Williams and Brook Lopez. Outside of Joe Johnson, guys like Wallace and Humphries did a very good job to help that brooklyn get the 4th seed

I have those five as locks too.

Then I have Washington and Toronto ahead of the trailing pack.

With Milwaukee, Cleveland and Boston in the next tier fighting for that 8th seed. Looks like Milwaukee might pull away from this group but have to wait and see how they fill out their bench first.

Oh and Atlanta, I forgot Atlanta, they added Millsap since I last thought about these rankings. Not sure where the rest of their roster is but they still have cap space and positions to fill so they could climb here. They are probably in that MIL-CLE-BOS tier at least and have a good chance (after they fill out the rest of their roster) at surpassing that group and winning that 8th seed.

Then there is Detroit and Charlotte.

Below them at the bottom of the East - Philly and Orlando.

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Right now, I'd say Boston is most likely to finish somewhere around 10th in the East.

[bfrombleacher]

Nope, probably not.

I don't think they are that far off though.

you have the locks

Brooklyn
Miami
Indy
Chi
Knicks

but then what??

I'm not saying Celtics are better but have just as good as chance as Detroit (no pg), Atl (no go to scorer), Wash (?), 76rs (no), Bucks (didn't get better), Charlotte (no), raptors (no pg).

So unless there are a team or two deemed locks outside of the 5 listed above, its anybodys game.

I think ppl are discounting the job Wallace and Humphries did for Brooklyn last year. Trust me it was not all Deron Williams and Brook Lopez. Outside of Joe Johnson, guys like Wallace and Humphries did a very good job to help that brooklyn get the 4th seed

I have those five as locks too.

Then I have Washington and Toronto ahead of the trailing pack.

With Milwaukee, Cleveland and Boston in the next tier fighting for that 8th seed. Looks like Milwaukee might pull away from this group but have to wait and see how they fill out their bench first.

Oh and Atlanta, I forgot Atlanta, they added Millsap since I last thought about these rankings. Not sure where the rest of their roster is but they still have cap space and positions to fill so they could climb here. They are probably in that MIL-CLE-BOS tier at least and have a good chance (after they fill out the rest of their roster) at surpassing that group and winning that 8th seed.

Then there is Detroit and Charlotte.

Below them at the bottom of the East - Philly and Orlando.

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Right now, I'd say Boston is most likely to finish somewhere around 10th in the East.

That's the thing. It's such a crapfest in the East one or two things going wrong could mean playoffs for the C's.

And expecting one or two things to go wrong is being optimistic.

[Who]

Nope, probably not.

I don't think they are that far off though.

you have the locks

Brooklyn
Miami
Indy
Chi
Knicks

but then what??

I'm not saying Celtics are better but have just as good as chance as Detroit (no pg), Atl (no go to scorer), Wash (?), 76rs (no), Bucks (didn't get better), Charlotte (no), raptors (no pg).

So unless there are a team or two deemed locks outside of the 5 listed above, its anybodys game.

I think ppl are discounting the job Wallace and Humphries did for Brooklyn last year. Trust me it was not all Deron Williams and Brook Lopez. Outside of Joe Johnson, guys like Wallace and Humphries did a very good job to help that brooklyn get the 4th seed

I have those five as locks too.

Then I have Washington and Toronto ahead of the trailing pack.

With Milwaukee, Cleveland and Boston in the next tier fighting for that 8th seed. Looks like Milwaukee might pull away from this group but have to wait and see how they fill out their bench first.

Oh and Atlanta, I forgot Atlanta, they added Millsap since I last thought about these rankings. Not sure where the rest of their roster is but they still have cap space and positions to fill so they could climb here. They are probably in that MIL-CLE-BOS tier at least and have a good chance (after they fill out the rest of their roster) at surpassing that group and winning that 8th seed.

Then there is Detroit and Charlotte.

Below them at the bottom of the East - Philly and Orlando.

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Right now, I'd say Boston is most likely to finish somewhere around 10th in the East.

That's the thing. It's such a crapfest in the East one or two things going wrong could mean playoffs for the C's.

And expecting one or two things to go wrong is being optimistic.

Yeah, they need to blow up the roster more if they are are hoping for a top 5 draft pick. As it stands now, I think they are most likely to end up with an 8-12th pick.

It doesn't look like Danny wants to do that though. So why not upgrade the roster a little bit and let the team put up a stronger fight for one of those final playoff spots. Please Danny, do one (blow it up more) or the other (fight for 8th seed). Don't just stand still.