Prediction: Celtics will wait till trade deadline to make any major moves.

[revtodd64]

Does Rondo's trade value really "go up" once he plays?

Right now he's seen by many as an allstar point guard who is going to be 100% healthy when he gets back from his mild injury.  The fact that ya'll think his trade value "will go up" once he comes back just reiterates that idea.

Seems few are considering the possibility that Rondo comes back, struggles mightily, takes a while to recover from his injury, throws a fit about playing for a tanking team, fails to succeed without Pierce and KG, etc.   All of these possibilities would actually cause his trade value to plummet from where it currently stands. 

Very good points.  I do assume Rondo will come back and play well, but it is not a given.  I just don't think it is imperative to trade him too quickly for too little.  The Bynum fiasco also might make teams more cautious about Rondo until they see him play.

[dreamgreen]

Bass is undersized at PF, now he has to play Center?

[rondoallaturca]

Does Rondo's trade value really "go up" once he plays?

Right now he's seen by many as an allstar point guard who is going to be 100% healthy when he gets back from his mild injury.  The fact that ya'll think his trade value "will go up" once he comes back just reiterates that idea.

Seems few are considering the possibility that Rondo comes back, struggles mightily, takes a while to recover from his injury, throws a fit about playing for a tanking team, fails to succeed without Pierce and KG, etc.   All of these possibilities would actually cause his trade value to plummet from where it currently stands. 

It can be argued that even with his injury, his trade value is about as high as it's going to get.   Andrew Bynum seems to be a good example of this.  Despite his knee issue, he still was a key part in allowing the Lakers to land Dwight Howard.   At this point, I don't see Bynum as having anywhere near the trade value he did last offseason.

Rondo's trade value only "goes up", if he comes back 100% healthy.   Right now there's a 50% chance of that happening.  If he comes back less than 100% and struggles mightily... then there's a 0% chance of that happening and nobody will want him.

It's mighty unreasonable to call it a 50-50 of him coming back 100% or not when your proposed scenario of him not coming back 100% involves a lot of unlikely events happening. Sports medicine has gone a long way. The last time an ACL injury truly screwed a player, it was because he messed around during rehab and tore it AGAIN (Michael Redd...and his was a double tear with the ACL *and* MCL).

[LooseCannon]

Seems few are considering the possibility that Rondo comes back, struggles mightily, takes a while to recover from his injury, throws a fit about playing for a tanking team, fails to succeed without Pierce and KG, etc.   All of these possibilities would actually cause his trade value to plummet from where it currently stands. 

It's possible, but I think you are overestimating the probability that it happens.  You seem to think that it is almost certain that will be the case.

Rondo has great value as a player, but he is a flawed player, which means he doesn't fit well with some other flawed players.  I think Rondo would be a bad fit next to a 20-25ppg wing who shoots 30% or worse on threes, for example.  His trade value depends strongly on how other teams are configured.  He would be best off on a team that either already has players who fit his skills or who have the flexibility to build around him.  I'd argue that the Celtics, by drafting power forwards like Sullinger and Olynyk who have the potential to be three-point threats, are setting the team up to build around Rondo's strengths and cover for his weaknesses.

If Rondo comes back looking like a star player who can succeed with Pierce and Garnett, does his trade value go up?  I think that scenario is more likely than Rondo being exposed as a player who needs to be surrounded by All-Stars to succeed.

[LarBrd33]

Does Rondo's trade value really "go up" once he plays?

Right now he's seen by many as an allstar point guard who is going to be 100% healthy when he gets back from his mild injury.  The fact that ya'll think his trade value "will go up" once he comes back just reiterates that idea.

Seems few are considering the possibility that Rondo comes back, struggles mightily, takes a while to recover from his injury, throws a fit about playing for a tanking team, fails to succeed without Pierce and KG, etc.   All of these possibilities would actually cause his trade value to plummet from where it currently stands. 

It can be argued that even with his injury, his trade value is about as high as it's going to get.   Andrew Bynum seems to be a good example of this.  Despite his knee issue, he still was a key part in allowing the Lakers to land Dwight Howard.   At this point, I don't see Bynum as having anywhere near the trade value he did last offseason.

Rondo's trade value only "goes up", if he comes back 100% healthy.   Right now there's a 50% chance of that happening.  If he comes back less than 100% and struggles mightily... then there's a 0% chance of that happening and nobody will want him.

It's mighty unreasonable to call it a 50-50 of him coming back 100% or not when your proposed scenario of him not coming back 100% involves a lot of unlikely events happening. Sports medicine has gone a long way. The last time an ACL injury truly screwed a player, it was because he messed around during rehab and tore it AGAIN (Michael Redd...and his was a double tear with the ACL *and* MCL).

That's the last time an ACL injury screwed a player?  An article just came out that says D-Rose is still rehabbing from his injury. 

Rondo's return coincides with a drastic shakeup to the lineup.  Maybe it's less than 50% that Rondo comes back and looks as good as he did back in the day. 

I honestly don't think he'll be an all-star next year.  At least Holiday was traded West...

[bobbyv]

Does Rondo's trade value really "go up" once he plays?

Right now he's seen by many as an allstar point guard who is going to be 100% healthy when he gets back from his mild injury.  The fact that ya'll think his trade value "will go up" once he comes back just reiterates that idea.

Seems few are considering the possibility that Rondo comes back, struggles mightily, takes a while to recover from his injury, throws a fit about playing for a tanking team, fails to succeed without Pierce and KG, etc.   All of these possibilities would actually cause his trade value to plummet from where it currently stands. 

It can be argued that even with his injury, his trade value is about as high as it's going to get.   Andrew Bynum seems to be a good example of this.  Despite his knee issue, he still was a key part in allowing the Lakers to land Dwight Howard.   At this point, I don't see Bynum as having anywhere near the trade value he did last offseason.

Rondo's trade value only "goes up", if he comes back 100% healthy.   Right now there's a 50% chance of that happening.  If he comes back less than 100% and struggles mightily... then there's a 0% chance of that happening and nobody will want him.

It's mighty unreasonable to call it a 50-50 of him coming back 100% or not when your proposed scenario of him not coming back 100% involves a lot of unlikely events happening. Sports medicine has gone a long way. The last time an ACL injury truly screwed a player, it was because he messed around during rehab and tore it AGAIN (Michael Redd...and his was a double tear with the ACL *and* MCL).

That's the last time an ACL injury screwed a player?  An article just came out that says D-Rose is still rehabbing from his injury. 

Rondo's return coincides with a drastic shakeup to the lineup.  Maybe it's less than 50% that Rondo comes back and looks as good as he did back in the day. 

I honestly don't think he'll be an all-star next year.  At least Holiday was traded West...

I think he will be. I don't know if Wade gets voted in as a starter again. Even so, Rondo, Wade, Rose, Irving, DWill. Paul George will probably get in as a backup SF again behind Lebron.

[rondoallaturca]

Not only was Rose's ACL tear far more extreme than Rondo's, I'm not sure what your point is that Rose's ACL injury screwed him. Do you have a crystal ball that tells you that when Rose returns, he's going to be a shell of his former self?

Baron Davis tore his ACL in college and went on to have a fine NBA career. Jamal Crawford, too. Both of them are guards who relied on quickness and explosiveness. Both of them also tore their ACLs over a decade ago. Medicine and rehab has gone a long way in the past decade. More recently, Al Jefferson, David West, and Ricky Rubio are guys who tore their ACL but returned just fine, if not even better. Do I even need to mention Adrian Peterson?

Considering Rondo's work ethic and drive, I hardly doubt he messes around with his rehab. The chance he comes back as a worse player is much less than you think.

[LarBrd33]

Not only was Rose's ACL tear far more extreme than Rondo's, I'm not sure what your point is that Rose's ACL injury screwed him. Do you have a crystal ball that tells you that when Rose returns, he's going to be a shell of his former self?

Baron Davis tore his ACL in college and went on to have a fine NBA career. Jamal Crawford, too. Both of them are guards who relied on quickness and explosiveness. Both of them also tore their ACLs over a decade ago. Medicine and rehab has gone a long way in the past decade. More recently, Al Jefferson, David West, and Ricky Rubio are guys who tore their ACL but returned just fine, if not even better. Do I even need to mention Adrian Peterson?

Considering Rondo's work ethic and drive, I hardly doubt he messes around with his rehab. The chance he comes back as a worse player is much less than you think.

Awesome.  Then we should have no trouble trading Rondo this offseason if this is true.  Great news.  Love to hear it.  Pass it along.  Rondo will be fine, fellow GMs... feel free to make your best offer!

I hope Danny AInge quotes you when Detroit laughs off our attempt to pry Drummond on Monroe away from the Pistons.

[bobbyv]

Not only was Rose's ACL tear far more extreme than Rondo's, I'm not sure what your point is that Rose's ACL injury screwed him. Do you have a crystal ball that tells you that when Rose returns, he's going to be a shell of his former self?

Baron Davis tore his ACL in college and went on to have a fine NBA career. Jamal Crawford, too. Both of them are guards who relied on quickness and explosiveness. Both of them also tore their ACLs over a decade ago. Medicine and rehab has gone a long way in the past decade. More recently, Al Jefferson, David West, and Ricky Rubio are guys who tore their ACL but returned just fine, if not even better. Do I even need to mention Adrian Peterson?

Considering Rondo's work ethic and drive, I hardly doubt he messes around with his rehab. The chance he comes back as a worse player is much less than you think.

Awesome.  Then we should have no trouble trading Rondo this offseason if this is true.  Great news.  Love to hear it.  Pass it along.  Rondo will be fine, fellow GMs... feel free to make your best offer!

I hope Danny AInge quotes you when Detroit laughs off our attempt to pry Drummond on Monroe away from the Pistons.

Drummond? I wouldn't trade Rondo for Drummond if I were them. That's because Drummond is a valuable big with lots of potential, easier to get than a PG. Monroe I could see them giving up.

Once again, you have no proof Rondo has been actively shopped. We know of the CP3 trade for sure, and the time him and Ray almost got traded to Phoenix. I'm not sure where you're getting this Rondo is hard to trade from, but at least provide some facts before dismissing others opinions.

[LarBrd33]

It's going to be a fun month

[rondoallaturca]

Not only was Rose's ACL tear far more extreme than Rondo's, I'm not sure what your point is that Rose's ACL injury screwed him. Do you have a crystal ball that tells you that when Rose returns, he's going to be a shell of his former self?

Baron Davis tore his ACL in college and went on to have a fine NBA career. Jamal Crawford, too. Both of them are guards who relied on quickness and explosiveness. Both of them also tore their ACLs over a decade ago. Medicine and rehab has gone a long way in the past decade. More recently, Al Jefferson, David West, and Ricky Rubio are guys who tore their ACL but returned just fine, if not even better. Do I even need to mention Adrian Peterson?

Considering Rondo's work ethic and drive, I hardly doubt he messes around with his rehab. The chance he comes back as a worse player is much less than you think.

Awesome.  Then we should have no trouble trading Rondo this offseason if this is true.  Great news.  Love to hear it.  Pass it along.  Rondo will be fine, fellow GMs... feel free to make your best offer!

I hope Danny AInge quotes you when Detroit laughs off our attempt to pry Drummond on Monroe away from the Pistons.

Drummond? That's a stretch. But you're a fool if you think Detroit won't send back a package centered around Monroe for Rondo, ESPECIALLY after signing Smith. I know Detroit is stupid, but not that stupid.

[bballee]

White and Shavlik don't make it to season start, maybe not even camp.  Bass and/or Lee moved before season.  Wallace and Humphries at deadline. 

[vjcsmoke]

Sign Greg Oden for mid-level exception 2 years

Colossal waste of money.  Besides the Heat are frontrunners for Oden and I hope they get him cos I don't want his injured butt on our bench for the next 2 years eating up cap space for nothing.

I like the idea of waiting for the TDL.  That way you have a good idea what teams are gonna be really bad and then you can maximize value for Rondo and/or other pieces when you make the trade.

[Boris Badenov]

Not only was Rose's ACL tear far more extreme than Rondo's, I'm not sure what your point is that Rose's ACL injury screwed him. Do you have a crystal ball that tells you that when Rose returns, he's going to be a shell of his former self?

Baron Davis tore his ACL in college and went on to have a fine NBA career. Jamal Crawford, too. Both of them are guards who relied on quickness and explosiveness. Both of them also tore their ACLs over a decade ago. Medicine and rehab has gone a long way in the past decade. More recently, Al Jefferson, David West, and Ricky Rubio are guys who tore their ACL but returned just fine, if not even better. Do I even need to mention Adrian Peterson?

Considering Rondo's work ethic and drive, I hardly doubt he messes around with his rehab. The chance he comes back as a worse player is much less than you think.

Awesome.  Then we should have no trouble trading Rondo this offseason if this is true.  Great news.  Love to hear it.  Pass it along.  Rondo will be fine, fellow GMs... feel free to make your best offer!

I hope Danny AInge quotes you when Detroit laughs off our attempt to pry Drummond on Monroe away from the Pistons.

Drummond? That's a stretch. But you're a fool if you think Detroit won't send back a package centered around Monroe for Rondo, ESPECIALLY after signing Smith. I know Detroit is stupid, but not that stupid.

I wonder whether Detroit would be so keen on adding Rondo to a lineup that would be fairly atrocious from the line.

[dreamgreen]

I don't think it's a matter of when they make a move, but more importantly what kind of move. I think DA will make a move at anytime as long as it's a deal he thinks will make the team better for his plan.