Rondo for Lin + Asik who says no

[connor]

I think this could work for everyone involved:

Boston in:
Horford, Lin and Schroeder

Atlanta in:
Rondo, Asik and Canaan

Houston in:
Teague, Wallace/Humprhies and 2015 LAC first

Boston gets a building block big in Horford, a quality starting PG in Lin and a guy they showed a ton of interest in pre-draft with Schroeder (who could be our future PG).

Atlanta gets and upgrade over Teague in Rondo (and some proper star power), a legitimate double double center in Asik and an early second round pick in Canaan to round out the back court.

Houston gets a young PG of the future with Teague, a slight upgrade over Lin but at a much lower cost. Ideally I'd like to see them bite on Wallace as their backup SF and a potential PF candidate, but I think they'd be more interested in Humprhies who would fill out their lineup nicely and be 12m off the books next year to bring in more talent. Plus a 2015 first for their trouble.

It's not my favorite potential Rondo deal, but I think its a solid return.

[jaketwice]

Lin and Asik for Rondo is a joke. Do you remember what Rondo did to Lin during "Linsanity"? Practically dragged the poor guy around by his ears. No way.

[ABOS (A bit of Sanity)]

I think this could work for everyone involved:

Boston in:
Horford, Lin and Schroeder

Atlanta in:
Rondo, Asik and Canaan

Houston in:
Teague, Wallace/Humprhies and 2015 LAC first

Boston gets a building block big in Horford, a quality starting PG in Lin and a guy they showed a ton of interest in pre-draft with Schroeder (who could be our future PG).

Atlanta gets and upgrade over Teague in Rondo (and some proper star power), a legitimate double double center in Asik and an early second round pick in Canaan to round out the back court.

Houston gets a young PG of the future with Teague, a slight upgrade over Lin but at a much lower cost. Ideally I'd like to see them bite on Wallace as their backup SF and a potential PF candidate, but I think they'd be more interested in Humprhies who would fill out their lineup nicely and be 12m off the books next year to bring in more talent. Plus a 2015 first for their trouble.

It's not my favorite potential Rondo deal, but I think its a solid return.

I think it works on paper but I think ATL moving Horford is a pipe dream. Combination of Horford and Milsap is a very talented front court.

[Celtics4ever]

I think Lin is vastly over rated.  Rondo has his haters but he is a better player than Lin.

[boscel33]

Don't want any part of Lin.  Lets get a third team involved such as Detroit and get Rondo to play with his pal.  I have no idea who sends what to where, just a thought.

[TeamGreen.dm]

Don't want any part of Lin.  Lets get a third team involved such as Detroit and get Rondo to play with his pal.  I have no idea who sends what to where, just a thought.

We much rather need the expiring contracts from the Pistons along woth Drummond rather than anything the Rockets can give up. Hell maybe even snatch Brandon Knight away from them

[eugen]

I think this could work for everyone involved:

Boston in:
Horford,

New Hawks told during the presemtation that Hordord can not be traded because he trying to bulti the Hawks around him

[Moranis]

First, I didn't say Boston should build around Lin or Asik, I said they were assets, which they are.  They are young players with 2 years left on their contracts.  They are easily movable at any time. 

Second, I don't know where this notion that Lin is terrible came from.  In his third year, he averaged 13.4 p, 6.1 a, 3 r per game with respectable outside shooting for a PG.  I mean he isn't Rondo, but he is far from terrible.   

Third, double double centers don't grow on trees.  They aren't easy to come by.  Asik is a double double center and while he isn't young, he did just finish his third year so he will only get better. 


This would be a pretty solid trade for Boston.  Two good solid young assets for a PG coming off of a torn ACL is a pretty solid trade.

No you never said that Asik or Lin were building blocks, but thats the level of talent that people are expecting back for Rondo.

Asik is an excellent player. He would fit in extremely well as a complementary piece on a contending roster.

Lin is a solid NBA PG, but is he worth 8m a year? I don't think so.

They are both tradeable assets and you could get nice pieces back for them, but you aren't getting superstar talent like Rondo for them so we shouldn't be giving him up in the first place.

We don't HAVE to trade Rondo, nor are we in a position to contend soon. So why would we give him up for players who are excellent complementary pieces but not building blocks?

Doesn't make sense to me. It's like buying the tires for your car before you get the engine. It's not going anywhere without both, but the engine is more important.

per 36 from last year

Jeff Green - 16.6 p, 5.1 r, 2.0 a, 1.1 b, .9 s
Jeremy Lin - 14.9 p, 3.4 r, 6.8 a, .4 b, 1.8 s

Lin is 1 million cheaper, 1 year less, younger, and with less experience.

Why do so many consider Jeff Green a great asset, but not Jeremy Lin?

  First of all, Jeff Green's numbers were skewed because he was coming back from heart surgery. His per36 scoring was 15 before the all star break, 19 after it. Also, Lin's a pretty poor defender, Green's pretty good on defense.

Jeff Green's per 36 last year were basically his career averages or slightly better everywhere except in rebounding.  Jeff Green was the exact same player of his entire career last year.  I will give you he is a better defender than Lin, but Lin has gotten better every year in that department.

[BballTim]

First, I didn't say Boston should build around Lin or Asik, I said they were assets, which they are.  They are young players with 2 years left on their contracts.  They are easily movable at any time. 

Second, I don't know where this notion that Lin is terrible came from.  In his third year, he averaged 13.4 p, 6.1 a, 3 r per game with respectable outside shooting for a PG.  I mean he isn't Rondo, but he is far from terrible.   

Third, double double centers don't grow on trees.  They aren't easy to come by.  Asik is a double double center and while he isn't young, he did just finish his third year so he will only get better. 


This would be a pretty solid trade for Boston.  Two good solid young assets for a PG coming off of a torn ACL is a pretty solid trade.

No you never said that Asik or Lin were building blocks, but thats the level of talent that people are expecting back for Rondo.

Asik is an excellent player. He would fit in extremely well as a complementary piece on a contending roster.

Lin is a solid NBA PG, but is he worth 8m a year? I don't think so.

They are both tradeable assets and you could get nice pieces back for them, but you aren't getting superstar talent like Rondo for them so we shouldn't be giving him up in the first place.

We don't HAVE to trade Rondo, nor are we in a position to contend soon. So why would we give him up for players who are excellent complementary pieces but not building blocks?

Doesn't make sense to me. It's like buying the tires for your car before you get the engine. It's not going anywhere without both, but the engine is more important.

per 36 from last year

Jeff Green - 16.6 p, 5.1 r, 2.0 a, 1.1 b, .9 s
Jeremy Lin - 14.9 p, 3.4 r, 6.8 a, .4 b, 1.8 s

Lin is 1 million cheaper, 1 year less, younger, and with less experience.

Why do so many consider Jeff Green a great asset, but not Jeremy Lin?

  First of all, Jeff Green's numbers were skewed because he was coming back from heart surgery. His per36 scoring was 15 before the all star break, 19 after it. Also, Lin's a pretty poor defender, Green's pretty good on defense.

Jeff Green's per 36 last year were basically his career averages or slightly better everywhere except in rebounding.  Jeff Green was the exact same player of his entire career last year.  I will give you he is a better defender than Lin, but Lin has gotten better every year in that department.

  Jeff Green's play was significantly different in the spring than it was earlier in the year. What exactly do you think "Jeff Green was the exact same player of his entire career last year" means? That you're expecting him to have huge variations in his game over the course of every year, or that he'll play at one level during the year but it will be well below what he was doing after the all-star break? If that's the case, to what do you attribute the expected regression in his game?
 

[angryguy77]

What has rondo done to deserve such an insult?

Can't believe how undervalued he is on this blog

[tyrone biggums]

What has rondo done to deserve such an insult?

Can't believe how undervalued he is on this blog

The reason why is even though he plays hard most of the time he is not a "dirt dog". The people in this city would rather have an 8 seed of scrappy youngsters than a team of Rondo KG Pierce etc...that's just how it is. That's why Rondo is very undervalued by Celtics fans.

[CelticsFan9]

Give Morey Executive of the Year if he pulls that off.

[Vox_Populi]

If this happened I'd call 911 telling the police that Houston had committed Grand Theft Rondo.

[TeamGreen.dm]

First, I didn't say Boston should build around Lin or Asik, I said they were assets, which they are.  They are young players with 2 years left on their contracts.  They are easily movable at any time. 

Second, I don't know where this notion that Lin is terrible came from.  In his third year, he averaged 13.4 p, 6.1 a, 3 r per game with respectable outside shooting for a PG.  I mean he isn't Rondo, but he is far from terrible.   

Third, double double centers don't grow on trees.  They aren't easy to come by.  Asik is a double double center and while he isn't young, he did just finish his third year so he will only get better. 


This would be a pretty solid trade for Boston.  Two good solid young assets for a PG coming off of a torn ACL is a pretty solid trade.

No you never said that Asik or Lin were building blocks, but thats the level of talent that people are expecting back for Rondo.

Asik is an excellent player. He would fit in extremely well as a complementary piece on a contending roster.

Lin is a solid NBA PG, but is he worth 8m a year? I don't think so.

They are both tradeable assets and you could get nice pieces back for them, but you aren't getting superstar talent like Rondo for them so we shouldn't be giving him up in the first place.

We don't HAVE to trade Rondo, nor are we in a position to contend soon. So why would we give him up for players who are excellent complementary pieces but not building blocks?

Doesn't make sense to me. It's like buying the tires for your car before you get the engine. It's not going anywhere without both, but the engine is more important.

per 36 from last year

Jeff Green - 16.6 p, 5.1 r, 2.0 a, 1.1 b, .9 s
Jeremy Lin - 14.9 p, 3.4 r, 6.8 a, .4 b, 1.8 s

Lin is 1 million cheaper, 1 year less, younger, and with less experience.

Why do so many consider Jeff Green a great asset, but not Jeremy Lin?

  First of all, Jeff Green's numbers were skewed because he was coming back from heart surgery. His per36 scoring was 15 before the all star break, 19 after it. Also, Lin's a pretty poor defender, Green's pretty good on defense.

Jeff Green's per 36 last year were basically his career averages or slightly better everywhere except in rebounding.  Jeff Green was the exact same player of his entire career last year.  I will give you he is a better defender than Lin, but Lin has gotten better every year in that department.

  Jeff Green's play was significantly different in the spring than it was earlier in the year. What exactly do you think "Jeff Green was the exact same player of his entire career last year" means? That you're expecting him to have huge variations in his game over the course of every year, or that he'll play at one level during the year but it will be well below what he was doing after the all-star break? If that's the case, to what do you attribute the expected regression in his game?
 

Trade or no trade we end up a mediocre middle of the pack team. That gets us no where in building process. Why not KEEP Rondo and try and add a piece to contribute to our future Celtic team. Wallace, Bass and Jordan Crawdord plus one of our picks for Rudy Gay. Then we become a viable playoff team and if somehow we still end up a bum squad with Gay, his contract expires. Its a true win win

[Q_FBE]

I worked out this beauty of a four way trade:

Boston gives up KG (Brk), Pierce(Brk), Terry(Brk), Bass (Hou), Rondo (Det)

Boston gets back Marshon Brooks (Brk), Evans (Brk), Asik (Hou), Villanueva (Det), Stuckey (Det), 3 1sts from NJ, 2014 1st from Detriot, 2016 and 2018 1st from Houston

Brooklyn gives up Humphies (Det), Wallace (Hou), Brooks (Bos), Evans (Bos), Bogans (Det)

Brooklyn gets KG (Bos), Pierce (Bos), Terry (Bos)

Detriot trades out Villanueva (Bos), Stuckey (Bos), Monroe (Hou).

Detriot picks up Rondo (Bos), Bogans (Brook), Humphries (NJ), Lin (Hou)

Houston unloads Asik (Bos), Lin (Det)
Houston receives Monroe (Det), Wallace (Brk), Bass (Bos)

More cap space in 2014 and more future 1st round draft picks for Boston.

I just don't believe that Danny Ainge will stand pat with his team post Brooklyn trade.