Rondo for Lin + Asik who says no

[Celtics4ever]

Drummond + Knight or Parsons + Asik would be compelling reasons to move him and I am a devout RR supporter.

[Moranis]

Drummond + Knight or Parsons + Asik would be compelling reasons to move him and I am a devout RR supporter.

Detroit would never do that.  Detroit won't even move Monroe for him.  Houston may do Parsons and Asik, but they really like Parsons and do for good reason.

[indeedproceed]

Drummond + Knight or Parsons + Asik would be compelling reasons to move him and I am a devout RR supporter.

Detroit would never do that.  Detroit won't even move Monroe for him.  Houston may do Parsons and Asik, but they really like Parsons and do for good reason.

Rondo for Parsons+Asik would be a great trade in my mind. Doesn't matter what your supporting cast is with Parsons, he's a starting caliber SF being paid a pittance. It would be relatively the same thing with Stephenson.

[Celtics Insider]

I'd seriously take Drummond alone for Rondo. I think he's a sure-thing.

I also really like Lin.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I'd seriously take Drummond alone for Rondo. I think he's a sure-thing.

I also really like Lin.

I think there's only two of us here. 

[chambers]

Hell no.
Would rather a youngster with upside. Some have said Drummond. I'm on that train too. If we really to have to trade Rondo, make it for a potentially game changing young talent who hasn't proven himself just yet.

[manl_lui]

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[CelticsFanNC]

  NO

Danny Ainge is a lot of things.  DUMB isn't one of them.

  If he trades Rondo he is going to demand and get a whole lot in return. 

[Moranis]

First, I didn't say Boston should build around Lin or Asik, I said they were assets, which they are.  They are young players with 2 years left on their contracts.  They are easily movable at any time. 

Second, I don't know where this notion that Lin is terrible came from.  In his third year, he averaged 13.4 p, 6.1 a, 3 r per game with respectable outside shooting for a PG.  I mean he isn't Rondo, but he is far from terrible.   

Third, double double centers don't grow on trees.  They aren't easy to come by.  Asik is a double double center and while he isn't young, he did just finish his third year so he will only get better. 


This would be a pretty solid trade for Boston.  Two good solid young assets for a PG coming off of a torn ACL is a pretty solid trade.

No you never said that Asik or Lin were building blocks, but thats the level of talent that people are expecting back for Rondo.

Asik is an excellent player. He would fit in extremely well as a complementary piece on a contending roster.

Lin is a solid NBA PG, but is he worth 8m a year? I don't think so.

They are both tradeable assets and you could get nice pieces back for them, but you aren't getting superstar talent like Rondo for them so we shouldn't be giving him up in the first place.

We don't HAVE to trade Rondo, nor are we in a position to contend soon. So why would we give him up for players who are excellent complementary pieces but not building blocks?

Doesn't make sense to me. It's like buying the tires for your car before you get the engine. It's not going anywhere without both, but the engine is more important.

per 36 from last year

Jeff Green - 16.6 p, 5.1 r, 2.0 a, 1.1 b, .9 s
Jeremy Lin - 14.9 p, 3.4 r, 6.8 a, .4 b, 1.8 s

Lin is 1 million cheaper, 1 year less, younger, and with less experience.

Why do so many consider Jeff Green a great asset, but not Jeremy Lin? 

[ABOS (A bit of Sanity)]

A rondo for Drummand trade would be our best bet. Not straight up tho. I think a Rondo and bad contract. Ex. Bass, lee, Wallace(ideally) for Drummand and exp. contract of Villanueva is what we would be looking at. Possibly draft pick compensation as well.

Asik and Lin are not assets to this roster as assembled. Decent players but there contracts jump up to 15mil per after this upcoming year severely hampering any cap flexibility we are trying to work for

[ssspence]

Drummond + Knight or Parsons + Asik would be compelling reasons to move him and I am a devout RR supporter.

Detroit would never do that.  Detroit won't even move Monroe for him.  Houston may do Parsons and Asik, but they really like Parsons and do for good reason.

Detroit would likely prefer to keep Monroe over Drummond.

[ssspence]

Drummond + Knight or Parsons + Asik would be compelling reasons to move him and I am a devout RR supporter.

Detroit would never do that.  Detroit won't even move Monroe for him.  Houston may do Parsons and Asik, but they really like Parsons and do for good reason.

Rondo for Parsons+Asik would be a great trade in my mind. Doesn't matter what your supporting cast is with Parsons, he's a starting caliber SF being paid a pittance. It would be relatively the same thing with Stephenson.

agreed. I'd far prefer this to Asik and Lin. But I think I'd look to flip Asik for prospects or picks if possible.

[guava_wrench]

First, I didn't say Boston should build around Lin or Asik, I said they were assets, which they are.  They are young players with 2 years left on their contracts.  They are easily movable at any time. 

Second, I don't know where this notion that Lin is terrible came from.  In his third year, he averaged 13.4 p, 6.1 a, 3 r per game with respectable outside shooting for a PG.  I mean he isn't Rondo, but he is far from terrible.   

Third, double double centers don't grow on trees.  They aren't easy to come by.  Asik is a double double center and while he isn't young, he did just finish his third year so he will only get better. 


This would be a pretty solid trade for Boston.  Two good solid young assets for a PG coming off of a torn ACL is a pretty solid trade.

Neither player is terrible but both are overpaid or have a weird contract at least. That means they aren't very valuable assets. If they were valuable assets, Houston would have found a taker already for Asik.

I think Asik is a good player, but we lose big time making the trade as just a 2 for 1.

Lin is nothing special.

[BballTim]

First, I didn't say Boston should build around Lin or Asik, I said they were assets, which they are.  They are young players with 2 years left on their contracts.  They are easily movable at any time. 

Second, I don't know where this notion that Lin is terrible came from.  In his third year, he averaged 13.4 p, 6.1 a, 3 r per game with respectable outside shooting for a PG.  I mean he isn't Rondo, but he is far from terrible.   

Third, double double centers don't grow on trees.  They aren't easy to come by.  Asik is a double double center and while he isn't young, he did just finish his third year so he will only get better. 


This would be a pretty solid trade for Boston.  Two good solid young assets for a PG coming off of a torn ACL is a pretty solid trade.

No you never said that Asik or Lin were building blocks, but thats the level of talent that people are expecting back for Rondo.

Asik is an excellent player. He would fit in extremely well as a complementary piece on a contending roster.

Lin is a solid NBA PG, but is he worth 8m a year? I don't think so.

They are both tradeable assets and you could get nice pieces back for them, but you aren't getting superstar talent like Rondo for them so we shouldn't be giving him up in the first place.

We don't HAVE to trade Rondo, nor are we in a position to contend soon. So why would we give him up for players who are excellent complementary pieces but not building blocks?

Doesn't make sense to me. It's like buying the tires for your car before you get the engine. It's not going anywhere without both, but the engine is more important.

per 36 from last year

Jeff Green - 16.6 p, 5.1 r, 2.0 a, 1.1 b, .9 s
Jeremy Lin - 14.9 p, 3.4 r, 6.8 a, .4 b, 1.8 s

Lin is 1 million cheaper, 1 year less, younger, and with less experience.

Why do so many consider Jeff Green a great asset, but not Jeremy Lin?

  First of all, Jeff Green's numbers were skewed because he was coming back from heart surgery. His per36 scoring was 15 before the all star break, 19 after it. Also, Lin's a pretty poor defender, Green's pretty good on defense.

[guava_wrench]

Lin is 1 million cheaper, 1 year less, younger, and with less experience.

Why do so many consider Jeff Green a great asset, but not Jeremy Lin?

Next season, Lin will have one of the worst contracts in the league.

I do not feel that Green is a "great asset". He is getting close to proving he is at least worth his contract. Since I do not think he is quite there yet, I do not see Green being a player that can bring in much value in a trade. Why add more such players?

One thing looking good with Green is that he played quite well as the season progressed and he looked to be fitter. He shot at percentages substantially better than Lin, and over the season, shot better than Lin from everywhere. Not that any of this matters to me, since I don't think either player is a particularly valuable trade chip at this point.

Plus, there's defense