David Lee on the block

[gpap]

Per CBS sports
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/22590565/report-warriors-are-shopping-david-lee-and-the-44m-hes-owed

I've always been a big David Lee fan.  Career average 15 pts/10 rbs per game.

Imagine if you could get both Smoove and Lee. That would be an awesome front court.

Not sure what Golden State is thinking, but I think 3 yrs/44 million remaining on his deal if perfectly fine for a good player.

I mean if someone is a good player, then what's he suppose to be making?

Pesos?

[Who]

No interest in David Lee.

As a final piece to put you over the top? Sure
As a key piece to a rebuilding effort? Nope.

[D.o.s.]

Fairly or not, he's become the poster boy for defensive liabilities.

I believe there is some data that shows that the Warriors rebound better with him on their bench, and they can certainly replicate his scoring elsewhere.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

No interest in David Lee.

As a final piece to put you over the top? Sure
As a key piece to a rebuilding effort? Nope.

Agree here. And I love David Lee.

He's 30, and while he's very productive, he is counter productive in what we are trying to do.

[gar]

We have a 6'-9" center in Sullinger. An sure GS would rather have Asik or a true 7 footer.

[gpap]

No interest in David Lee.

As a final piece to put you over the top? Sure
As a key piece to a rebuilding effort? Nope.

Not sure I know what you mean. The word rebuilding is getting thrown alot an awful here and I am not sure people even really knows what it means.

For me, rebuilding is the process of assembling together a new but equally effective team than the one you had before.

So, for me, a team of Rondo/Green/David Lee/Smith is every bit the team and even better than the one we had last year.

Rebuilding doesn't have to mean being awful nor does it have to mean "acquiring assets" for the "next big star" which could mean sometime between now and when I file for social security.

[gpap]

No interest in David Lee.

As a final piece to put you over the top? Sure
As a key piece to a rebuilding effort? Nope.

Agree here. And I love David Lee.

He's 30, and while he's very productive, he is counter productive in what we are trying to do.

Lol, and what exactly do you think we are trying to do?

We should just be in the business of winning.

[Who]

No interest in David Lee.

As a final piece to put you over the top? Sure
As a key piece to a rebuilding effort? Nope.

Not sure I know what you mean. The word rebuilding is getting thrown alot an awful here and I am not sure people even really knows what it means.

For me, rebuilding is the process of assembling together a new but equally effective team than the one you had before.

So, for me, a team of Rondo/Green/David Lee/Smith is every bit the team and even better than the one we had last year.

Rebuilding doesn't have to mean being awful nor does it have to mean "acquiring assets" for the "next big star" which could mean sometime between now and when I file for social security.

If you are a 50+ win team and looking for a piece to put you over the top, I say go for David Lee.

Anything less than that, I say no to David Lee.

[gpap]

No interest in David Lee.

As a final piece to put you over the top? Sure
As a key piece to a rebuilding effort? Nope.

Not sure I know what you mean. The word rebuilding is getting thrown alot an awful here and I am not sure people even really knows what it means.

For me, rebuilding is the process of assembling together a new but equally effective team than the one you had before.

So, for me, a team of Rondo/Green/David Lee/Smith is every bit the team and even better than the one we had last year.

Rebuilding doesn't have to mean being awful nor does it have to mean "acquiring assets" for the "next big star" which could mean sometime between now and when I file for social security.

If you are a 50+ win team and looking for a piece to put you over the top, I say go for David Lee.

Anything less than that, I say no to David Lee.

And what I am saying is the Celts could put a 50 team win on the court with Lee, if they play their cards right.

Deal Humph's expiring to Golden State along with picks for David Lee as Golden State wants salary cap relief.

If you get a 7.5 million trade exception from Brooklyn, then deal that along with filler to Atlanta for Josh Smith.

[D.o.s.]

No interest in David Lee.

As a final piece to put you over the top? Sure
As a key piece to a rebuilding effort? Nope.

Not sure I know what you mean. The word rebuilding is getting thrown alot an awful here and I am not sure people even really knows what it means.

For me, rebuilding is the process of assembling together a new but equally effective team than the one you had before.

So, for me, a team of Rondo/Green/David Lee/Smith is every bit the team and even better than the one we had last year.

Rebuilding doesn't have to mean being awful nor does it have to mean "acquiring assets" for the "next big star" which could mean sometime between now and when I file for social security.

If you are a 50+ win team and looking for a piece to put you over the top, I say go for David Lee.

Anything less than that, I say no to David Lee.

And what I am saying is the Celts could put a 50 team win on the court with Lee, if they play their cards right.

Deal Humph's expiring to Golden State along with picks for David Lee as Golden State wants salary cap relief.

If you get a 7.5 million trade exception from Brooklyn, then deal that along with filler to Atlanta for Josh Smith.

Possibly--if Rondo comes back 100% for training camp and Courtney Lee rediscovers how to shoot threes.

[Fafnir]

No interest in David Lee.

As a final piece to put you over the top? Sure
As a key piece to a rebuilding effort? Nope.

Lee seems like he's settled in as a somewhat more dynamic Troy Murphy.

[kozlodoev]

No interest in David Lee.

As a final piece to put you over the top? Sure
As a key piece to a rebuilding effort? Nope.

Lee seems like he's settled in as a somewhat more dynamic Troy Murphy.

David Lee is a rich man's Kelly Olynyk, really. He comes expensive, and is somewhat redundant for our roster.

[Who]

So, for me, a team of Rondo/Green/David Lee/Smith is every bit the team and even better than the one we had last year.

G - Rondo, (backup PG)
G - Bradley, Lee
F - J.Green, G.Wallace
F - Josh Smith, G.Wallace
C - David Lee, (defensive big)

I guess Sully would the main piece of the package going to GSW. With Bass and Bogans as cap makeweights. And a first round pick which I think would be necessary with Bass' non-expiring contract. Then Humphries + 1/2 firsts for Josh Smith in a sign and trade.

That would be a pretty interesting team. David Lee would be very vulnerable defensively at the five spot but the combined defensive strength one through four is very impressive. Maybe strong enough to live with Lee's defensive flaws??

The offense would be wide open with David Lee's high post play at the five spot. His long range shooting, high post passing and dribble drive threat would provide great floor spacing for everyone else. An even greater threat than KG has been these last few years. It would be very difficult to contain Rondo's playmaking.

Bring in a strong defensive big to play behind Lee. Someone good enough to play longer minutes where necessary. If they can't find a suitable trade, Kwame Brown looks the strongest cheap FA option.

A JJ Barea or Will Bynum as backup PG. Maybe split the MLE between W.Bynum and Kwame.


Is that a title contender? Does it have the upside to become a title contender down the road?

First reaction is no. Second reaction is that the team would be better than I had first given it credit for being. Still it is probably more of a strong regular season team (55 win team?) than a team built for playoff success.

I don't see a lot of upside to it.

** I guess whatever upside (internal development) is there will come from A.Bradley and J.Green.
** Neither Josh Smith or David Lee are / will be particularly attractive trade assets.
** They will have had to auction off one of their best prospects (Sully) and 3-4 first round picks to bring J.Smith + D.Lee here so that takes quite a few assets off the table.
** Boston would be too good a team to earn high draft picks themselves so large upgrades unlikely to come from there.
** Gerald Wallace and David Lee both already 30. Looks like G-Wallace has already started to have significant decline.
** Limited cap flexibility.
** Possibly just restarting where they are now 2-3 years down the road when G-Wallace's and D-Lee's contracts come off the books only now Rondo is 30 years old and there is an even shorter window to build a title contender around him.

If you are high enough on Avery and J.Green, maybe it is a worthwhile risk. I am not though. Still in a wait and see mode with Avery. Not a believer in Jeff.


I wouldn't do it. Those trades to acquire D.Lee + J.Smith.

If it happened though, I think I would really enjoy watching that group of players play together. Looks like a fun team to follow. 

[Yoki_IsTheName]

No interest in David Lee.

As a final piece to put you over the top? Sure
As a key piece to a rebuilding effort? Nope.

Agree here. And I love David Lee.

He's 30, and while he's very productive, he is counter productive in what we are trying to do.

Lol, and what exactly do you think we are trying to do?

We should just be in the business of winning.

True, but we won't win with David Lee because.

a.) Whatever assets we have, we have to give to get him.
b.) When we do get him, we will still have not enough talent to win, and no more assets to move around to add more talent.
c.) By the time we get David Lee some help, he'll be 33-34, on the downside of his career.

Believe me, I'm against this tank job as well but we are already here. If KG and Paul were still here, and they are as productive as they were last year and healthy, along with Rondo and Green, then we should aggressively go after David Lee (heck we give up the farm for him). Lee will solve pretty much all our rebounding issues. He's a legit second option on offense and excellent on the pick and roll. Not a good defender but with KG patrolling he'll be atleast decent. Unfortunately, we don't have those two guys.

Right now, in the state that we are in, we should pass. Add to that his massive $15 million contract, no. He would be great, but no.

[BballTim]

So, for me, a team of Rondo/Green/David Lee/Smith is every bit the team and even better than the one we had last year.

G - Rondo, (backup PG)
G - Bradley, Lee
F - J.Green, G.Wallace
F - Josh Smith, G.Wallace
C - David Lee, (defensive big)

I guess Sully would the main piece of the package going to GSW. With Bass and Bogans as cap makeweights. And a first round pick which I think would be necessary with Bass' non-expiring contract. Then Humphries + 1/2 firsts for Josh Smith in a sign and trade.

  If Sully comes back healthy and keeps playing like he did in January I'd be pretty hesitant to trade him for Lee. If you made the trade for Smith you'd still have a boatload of first rounders, maybe you could package a few of them with a combo of Bass/Lee/Wallace at some point over the next couple of years and have a pretty strong squad.