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Offline LooseCannon

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At last reporting, it looks like Garnett, Pierce and Terry for Wallace, Humphries, Keith Bogans, Kris Joseph, Marshon Brooks, first-round picks in 2014, 2016, and 2018 (the latter two unprotected) and the right to swap picks in 2017.

Let's call that package A.

Now, here is package B.  Both teams suddenly realize that the Nets also possess the expiring contract of the SF equivalent of Kris Humphries in terms of value and relevance to the Celtics' long-term plans.  Let's call him Kris Humphries, Jr. or KHJ.

The Nets offer this alternative package, which we will call package B.

Garnett and Pierce for Kris Humphries, Kris Humphries Jr, Kris Joseph, Marshon Brooks, and first round picks in 2013, 2015, and 2017 with normal lottery protections.  There are no pick-swapping rights involved.  Assume the deal would be made before the draft and the Nets would select a player dictated by the Celtics.

So, effectively, the Celtics keep Jason Terry, get an expiring contract of a player who won't be a Celtic beyond this season instead of Wallace and Bogans, and down-grade the quality of their first-round picks by getting a 2013 instead of 2014 pick and protected 2015/2017 picks instead of unprotected 2016/2018 picks.

Do you prefer package A or package B and is your decision close?
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what? isn't the deal and projections confusing enough without weird spin off contingent hypotheticals?

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The Wallace contract isn't a problem. 

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Definitely package B.

Jason Terry's contract really isn't all that bad. Contenders will want him and Dallas has expressed interest in reacquiring him.

Despite the depth of the 2014 draft, if we get a lottery pick in that draft, it's due to us tanking so that our own lottery pick is bad enough. Next year Brooklyn will probably be at or very near their peak of this faux-dynasty they've built, meaning their 2014 pick they're sending us is going to be a very, very late first rounder.

You don't clarify how 15/17 are protected, so that might change my decision, but as of now, package B is a lot more attractive and it's not even close.

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what? isn't the deal and projections confusing enough without weird spin off contingent hypotheticals?

Life is boring without weird spin-off contingent hypotheticals.
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This depends- who is KHJ's mom? Is it Kim Kardashian? Because if you had Humphries but with a giant gadonk, he would be a rebounding force the likes of which the league has never seen

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I think the chances are good that Gerald Wallace has a resurgent campaign next season with the Celtics. Revives his career and earns himself a trade outta here.

I am not worried about his contract at this point.

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Package A.  Wallace's contract is bad but it won't hinder our rebuild.

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I think the chances are good that Gerald Wallace has a resurgent campaign next season with the Celtics. Revives his career and earns himself a trade outta here.

I am not worried about his contract at this point.

Ok, can we still lose games while that happens though?

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what? isn't the deal and projections confusing enough without weird spin off contingent hypotheticals?

Life is boring without weird spin-off contingent hypotheticals.

haha ok well played :)

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If we could move Wallace and his contract, that would be nice.

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I think the chances are good that Gerald Wallace has a resurgent campaign next season with the Celtics. Revives his career and earns himself a trade outta here.

I am not worried about his contract at this point.

I agree with you. Wallace may also look better and get more productive usage than he did in New Jersey playing for a bad team.

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I think the chances are good that Gerald Wallace has a resurgent campaign next season with the Celtics. Revives his career and earns himself a trade outta here.

I am not worried about his contract at this point.
Wasn't he playing hurt all year or something?  If he plays PF he has the capacity to pull down a lot of rebounds.

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I think the chances are good that Gerald Wallace has a resurgent campaign next season with the Celtics. Revives his career and earns himself a trade outta here.

I am not worried about his contract at this point.

I agree with you. Wallace may also look better and get more productive usage than he did in New Jersey playing for a bad team.

What people fail to realize is that Wallace's game is entirely based off athleticism, and he's one of those guys who declines early and suddenly. There isn't going to be any sort of resurgence from Wallace. He might not post last  year's god awful numbers, but it'll be close.