Did we just draft Nowitzki lite? and best guess at 2013/4 roster

[bcgenuis]

After looking at tape of Kelly Olynyk his game reminds me of Dirk Nowitzki's. Not saying he will be that good, but he reminds me on him.  7'0 - has a decent handle, nice stroke on his shot, can run the floor, can grab some boards and not great on defense.  I am wondering how his draft profile matches up with that of Dirk in '98.

I think with the Iverson pick Ainge saw a Perkins clone with a better outside shot.  He appears to be a big tough kid that can rebound.

So now we have three 7 footers we just need one to pan out.  Unfortunately, we don't have KG to mentor them.  But if they just even become capable rotation players.  A 7 foot rotation player has value in this league.  Pair that with a #1 and you can get something of value.

Centers
Melo - rim protector
Iverson - tough guy back up center

PF
Olynyk
Sullinger

SF - Green
SG - Bradley
PG - Rondo

Roster filler:
SG M Brooks
G Crawford
G/F Lee; Joseph; TWill
F Wallace; Humphries
PF Bass
PF/C Randoplh

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Kelly Olynyk to me is Zydrunas Ilgauskas with shorter arms.

While Kelly moves very well, he's not as quick as Dirk. For a PF Dirk has very quick first step. But Olynyk is as crafty in the post as Big Z, great footwork, can create space for his own and hit the mid range.

In a weak draft, getting a Zydrunas Ilgauskas level talent at 13 is alright to me.

[bcgenuis]

Kelly Olynyk to me is Zydrunas Ilgauskas with shorter arms.

While Kelly moves very well, he's not as quick as Dirk. For a PF Dirk has very quick first step. But Olynyk is as crafty in the post as Big Z, great footwork, can create space for his own and hit the mid range.

In a weak draft, getting a Zydrunas Ilgauskas level talent at 13 is alright to me.

Big Z seemed more clunky to me. Had a nice shot tho.  Wouldn't minds if KO has a career like Big Z.

[pearljammer10]

I actually dont mind the Kelly pick(hate giving up the two second rounders next year to get him though) but I just dont see him as a Dirk Nowitzki at all. I honestly dont think we will see another player of Nowitzki's skill set for many many years to come if ever.

[rondoallaturca]

I can't remember who, but someone made a comparison with Luis Scola, and I think that's most accurate, right down to the hair style.

[Snakehead]

Kelly Olynyk to me is Zydrunas Ilgauskas with shorter arms.

While Kelly moves very well, he's not as quick as Dirk. For a PF Dirk has very quick first step. But Olynyk is as crafty in the post as Big Z, great footwork, can create space for his own and hit the mid range.

In a weak draft, getting a Zydrunas Ilgauskas level talent at 13 is alright to me.

I saw you make this comparison before and think it's interesting but not quite accurate.

He has more skill going to the rim and dribbling for sure and also with some back to the basket type moves.  I think Big Z was a better rebounder.

Z never moved as well as Olynyk does.  (having foot issues your whole career will do that, but he just wasn't as agile in general).

I can't remember who, but someone made a comparison with Luis Scola, and I think that's most accurate, right down to the hair style.

I have before, though not an uncommon comparison.  To me he's a mix between Scola, Divac, and Dirk.  Not saying in talent level, but he has skills from all those players.  I hope he develops well.

[bcgenuis]

Kelly Olynyk to me is Zydrunas Ilgauskas with shorter arms.

While Kelly moves very well, he's not as quick as Dirk. For a PF Dirk has very quick first step. But Olynyk is as crafty in the post as Big Z, great footwork, can create space for his own and hit the mid range.

In a weak draft, getting a Zydrunas Ilgauskas level talent at 13 is alright to me.

I saw you make this comparison before and think it's interesting but not quite accurate.

He has more skill going to the rim and dribbling for sure and also with some back to the basket type moves.  I think Big Z was a better rebounder.

Z never moved as well as Olynyk does.  (having foot issues your whole career will do that, but he just wasn't as agile in general).

I can't remember who, but someone made a comparison with Luis Scola, and I think that's most accurate, right down to the hair style.

I have before, though not an uncommon comparison.  To me he's a mix between Scola, Divac, and Dirk.  Not saying in talent level, but he has skills from all those players.  I hope he develops well.

Now that I am thinking about it more.  I think the point I am trying to make is that I think the Celtics see Olynyk as a 4 not a 5.

[jambr380]

Kelly isn't much of a 5, at all, except for the height (but without the reach). I am really impressed with the way he moves, what he can do off the dribble and his touch - at the hoop and outside.

The Zydrunas comparison seems really far off. I don't really think he is the next Dirk, but that is the type of player he seems to mold himself after.

I will be really impressed if he can become a rotation player for the Celtics, so my expectations aren't too high; however, I think fans will be quite impressed with his ability to move well and finish in a number of ways.

[manl_lui]

Kelly Olynyk to me is Zydrunas Ilgauskas with shorter arms.

While Kelly moves very well, he's not as quick as Dirk. For a PF Dirk has very quick first step. But Olynyk is as crafty in the post as Big Z, great footwork, can create space for his own and hit the mid range.

In a weak draft, getting a Zydrunas Ilgauskas level talent at 13 is alright to me.

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[Tr1boy]

Kelly is not Z. Moves much better.

People can't be discounting that he helped take Gonzaga to a ridiculous 30-3 record or something like that. His stats are packed. It shows you he plays with consistency and knows how to win.

I think Danny after seeing what a well coached player from a very good program Sullinger can do ,even without a good body, can do in the nba, prob didn't think twice about getting Olynyk. And we need his perimeter game to compliment with Sullys inside game, we need his scoring skills bc we will be hurting in that area and his size also comes in handy . I think as the season goes by and his body has to adapt and get better, like sullys did, ppl will be laughing that we really did get a good pick here. I'm happy to at least know he won't be a detriment in the defensive end.

2013/2014 lineup

Starting - Sully - Olynyk - Green - AB - Rondo (if not traded)

Bench - Humprhries, Bass, Iverson, Melo, Wallace, Joseph, Brooks, Lee, Pressey, crawford, t will

So was ppl can see , something has to give.  At the front between Humphries , Bass, Iverson, Melo one definitely has to go.   Wallace unless traded will be the backup forward.
At the backcourt, from Brooks, Lee, Pressey, Crawford, T Will at least two has to go. Joseph will likely not be brought back

in the end i think the bench will look like (which will give us a 13 man roster)

Humphries - Iverson - Bass - Wallace - Brooks - T Will and Pressey

Lee will be traded, Melo sent down to d league, Crawford waived or traded

[LarBrd33]

A quote from LarBrd33 on 6/28/13 at 12:13AM during the "Sky is falling we took Olynyk!!!" thread:

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=66040.msg1505079#msg1505079

#1 - I've had my run-ins with a fair share of Celtic fans.  90% chance that by Summer League half this forum will be calling Olynyk the next "Dirk Nowitzki" or "Larry Bird".  You know this to be true.  And then mid-season at the deadline when rumors start swirling about Kevin Love wanting out of Minny... you'll see plenty of posters saying, 'NO WAY WOULD I GIVE UP OLYNYK FOR A PLAYER LIKE LOVE... IN TWO YEARS OLYNYK WILL BE BETTER THAN LOVE!!".   Ainge has a good record with draft picks... gotta give him a pass on this one.  Sorry. 

Holy crap it took less than a day.     

[Roy H.]

He doesn't have Dirk's athleticism or range.

[Tr1boy]

He doesn't have Dirk's athleticism or range.

Dirk is athletic??

Dirk has one main adv as a sf/pf and that is his height. He moves pretty well for his height and is smart for the reason that he hasn't gotten killed by the likes of Lebron or Pierce.

Olynyk still has "pudgy" body. Not out of shape but needs to get refined. His trunk area is also thick. Prob needs to change his workout to get lean without losing strength. HE won't be a sf though in the nba. But a stretch pf. Danny doesn't mind small ball, so it can workout. We got Sully to do the dirty work down low

[LooseCannon]

I like the comparison to Tyler Hansbrough, another short-armed hustle guy.

Olynyk seems to have more diverse offensive skills than Psycho T.  His rebounding and defense aren't as good, but there is some reason to believe that Olynyk's deficiency in those areas are at least partly due to still learning how to be a big man instead of a guard.  Given the shift in his college game to becoming a post player instead of a perimeter shooter, I think he might have the intelligence and work ethic to be a guy who can learn to become adequate with the aid of a good big man coach.  I'm more optimistic about it than hoping that some athletic but stupid Deandre Jordan clone learns how to not be an idiot.

[jay]

His highlights remind me of birdman.  He is a better shooter than birdman and not a high flyer, but similar looking player. 

I cant see him being near as polished or smooth as Dirk.