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Offline rondohondo

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This is something that needs it's own thread .
If this trade goes through...

This is awesome

Sure the Clippers 2015 pick will probably be in the 20's

but

I can't believe we are going to be getting unprotected picks from the Nets in 2016 and 18 . Those have a very good chance of being lottery picks IMO. After KG and PP retire in 2 years, and an aging Deron Williams, I can't see the Nets being very good.

You never know, but I think this could be a steal for the C's.
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Where is the unprotected pick in 2015 coming from?

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Where is the unprotected pick in 2015 coming from?
clippers for Doc

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If you're a fan of the trade, I would change the "now" in your post title to "might".

Has no one learned anything from that ridiculous "NA NA NA NA HEY HEY HEY GOODBYE" thread debacle during Game Six?

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If you're a fan of the trade, I would change the "now" in your post title to "might".

Has no one learned anything from that ridiculous "NA NA NA NA HEY HEY HEY GOODBYE" thread debacle during Game Six?
fixed ;)

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Where is the unprotected pick in 2015 coming from?
clippers for Doc

OK some Im tracking the 3 picks from the Nets + The 2015 Doc pick. So where is the other 2014 coming from? Is it our own?

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Where is the unprotected pick in 2015 coming from?
clippers for Doc

OK some Im tracking the 3 picks from the Nets + The 2015 Doc pick. So where is the other 2014 coming from? Is it our own?

yes our own pick and Nets pick in 2014

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Where is the unprotected pick in 2015 coming from?
clippers for Doc

OK some Im tracking the 3 picks from the Nets + The 2015 Doc pick. So where is the other 2014 coming from? Is it our own?

2014: BOS, BRK or ATL
2015: BOS, LAC (unprotected)
2016: BOS, BRK (unprotected)
2017: BOS
2018: BOS, BRK (unprotected)
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You're absolutely right. This is incredibly exciting. Because we will also be horrible and generating our own lottery picks for the next few years. So that's potentially 6 high lottery picks in a 3 year period, on top of the lottery picks we'll get in '14 & '15.

Obviously it's unlikely we'll keep all of them. But rather they represent a tremendous wealth of riches that will propel us into long term prosperity by the end of this decade. And it could be the kind of long term, dynastic prosperity that we've seen from the Lakers and Spurs.

I know many of the young fans are very displeased at this kind of long term planning and team building strategy. But if you're a lifelong fan who's been around awhile, you know this is the best move for the team. And you don't mind waiting for a master plan of this magnitude to finally come together in a few years. Afterall, this is the Boston Celtics. We've been here for 64 years!! We ain't goin' nowhere. But rest assured folks - the C's will own the future.

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A bunch of picks in the high 20's over the next 5 years gets you no where in the NBA.

I'm confused why people are excited about this.

The hope and pray strategy for a top pick in the right year has yet to work for us. In my business deals I prefer to use strategy vs luck, I would think the owners use the same strategy. ???

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I don't think there is much of a problem concerned with how this sets us up for a rebuild or trusting Danny to build something worthwhile with these assets.

I'm more disappointed that he thinks himself apparently incapable of making a good run with the players we have currently with means to tweak the roster a bit further to fill some of the holes we had.

While it's a very good rebuilding strategy, I find it completely unnecessary and a missed opportunity to do something now to compete.

I was very excited for this year's free-agency with a couple of potential sign-and-trade possibilities which I thought would look very good alongside KG.

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You're absolutely right. This is incredibly exciting. Because we will also be horrible and generating our own lottery picks for the next few years. So that's potentially 6 high lottery picks in a 3 year period, on top of the lottery picks we'll get in '14 & '15.

Obviously it's unlikely we'll keep all of them. But rather they represent a tremendous wealth of riches that will propel us into long term prosperity by the end of this decade. And it could've the kind of long term, dynastic prosperity that we've seen from the Lakers and Spurs.

I know many of the young fans are very displeased at this kind of long term planning and team building strategy. But if you're a lifelong fan who's been around awhile, you know this is the best move for the team. And you don't mind waiting for a master plan of this magnitude to finally come together in a few years. Afterall, this is the Boston Celtics. We've been here for 64 years!! We ain't goin' nowhere. But rest assured folks - the C's will own the future.

I would have stopped watching the NBA if the Celtics "ran it back" that would have been sad. Bill Simmons is a moron and doesn't understand that this team would and should suck for the next half decade. That's the price we paid by screwing up our future for KG/Ray Allen. We won a title but we could have had a dynasty by getting lottery picks (Rose etc...) Oh well...go Celtics! No more small ball and no more boring games...

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A bunch of picks in the high 20's over the next 5 years gets you no where in the NBA.

I'm confused why people are excited about this.

The hope and pray strategy for a top pick in the right year has yet to work for us. In my business deals I prefer to use strategy vs luck, I would think the owners use the same strategy. ???

Guy, in 2016-2018, the Nets will be harrrrrible. They'll probably be worse than us. Those picks are gonna be golden chalices of glorious treasure!!

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On July 31, 2007, Garnett was traded to the Boston Celtics in exchange for Al Jefferson, Ryan Gomes, Sebastian Telfair, Gerald Green, Theo Ratliff, cash considerations, Boston's 2009 first-round draft pick (top 3 protected), and the 2009 first-round pick which Minnesota had traded to Boston in the Ricky Davis-Wally Szczerbiak trade of 2006.

Al Jefferson: 15th pick, 2004
Ryan Gomes: 50th pick, 2005
Sebastian Telfair: 13th pick, 2004
Gerald Green: 18th pick, 2005

The 2009 picks were the #6 (Minnesota's own) and #28 (Boston) selections.

So, that's one thing you can do with a bunch of draft picks.
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You're absolutely right. This is incredibly exciting. Because we will also be horrible and generating our own lottery picks for the next few years. So that's potentially 6 high lottery picks in a 3 year period, on top of the lottery picks we'll get in '14 & '15.

Obviously it's unlikely we'll keep all of them. But rather they represent a tremendous wealth of riches that will propel us into long term prosperity by the end of this decade. And it could be the kind of long term, dynastic prosperity that we've seen from the Lakers and Spurs.

I know many of the young fans are very displeased at this kind of long term planning and team building strategy. But if you're a lifelong fan who's been around awhile, you know this is the best move for the team. And you don't mind waiting for a master plan of this magnitude to finally come together in a few years. Afterall, this is the Boston Celtics. We've been here for 64 years!! We ain't goin' nowhere. But rest assured folks - the C's will own the future.

I like how in defense of tanking you cite two teams who have remained relevant the past decade without tanking. At all. Yes, the Spurs tanked to get Tim Duncan; but since then they have remained relevant through shrewd management, not the draft. The Lakers haven't tanked, either.

Tanking is by far some fool-proof strategy for rebuilding. It is high risk, high reward. There is a reason most teams that tank get absolutely nothing out of it and remain at the bottom of the league in perpetuity.

I don't like tanking. I think it is fool's gold; the success rate on teams tanking is incredibly low. It worked for the Spurs 15 years ago. Once OKC wins a title we can say it worked for them.

Besides that? The Heat didn't tank. The Mavericks didn't tank. The Pistons didn't tank. It's not nearly the safe, smart strategy people here seem to think it is (boy am I glad that nobody on this forum is the GM, our team would be a disaster).