3 trades for an instant rebuild:

[connor]

New Roster:

Cousins/Melo
Robinson/Bass
Green/Salmons
Gordon/Crawford/Terry
Rondo/T-Will

Plus the 16th pick (hopefully Schroeder, Larkin, Olnyk or Shabazz) and the 33rd pick (BPA). Move Terry and Bass for whatever you can get.

Trade 1:
Boston in: Cousins, Salmons
Boston out: KG, Sullinger, 2015 LAC pick

LAC in: KG
LAC out: Jordan and 2017 first

SAC in: Jordan, Sullinger, 2015 and 2017 LAC firsts
SAC out: Cousins, Salmons

Trade 2:
Boston in: Gordon, 31st and 33rd picks 2013
Boston out: Pierce, Bradley

CLE in: Pierce
CLE out: 31st and 33rd picks 2013, 16m Trade Exception

NO in: Bradley, 16m Trade exception
NO out: Gordon

Trade 3:
Boston in: Robinson
Boston out: Lee, 33rd pick 2013

MEM in: Lee
MEM out: 5m trade exception

HOU in: 5m trade exception 33rd pick 2013
HOU out: Robinson

Only one I'm not sure about is the SAC trade. They might not want to move Cousins, but he wants a max deal and if they aren't going to give it to him they should trade him. Reports are that his market value is really low so if the new ownership decide to move him this could be enough (replacement big man, promising PF and 2 late firsts).

Pros:
Extremely young (starting five: 27, 24, 26, 22, 23), very athletic, tons of potential. Immediate playoff contenders with room to improve.
Cons:
Unproven, attitude/effort issues, injury concerns (Gordon).

That team would be tons of fun to watch and could cause some serious damage in the playoffs if they can click (I'd say it'd be at least a year of teething problems though). Needs the right coach to manage them though (Cousins, Rondo, Gordon).

[guava_wrench]

Clearly some thought went into this.

Based on past statements, it seems like the league would not approve the Clips sending out Jordan and a 1st for KG. They do not think that the Clips would be getting enough value.

Can you make this work without the 1st round pick?

[PhoSita]

Clearly some thought went into this.

Based on past statements, it seems like the league would not approve the Clips sending out Jordan and a 1st for KG. They do not think that the Clips would be getting enough value.

Can you make this work without the 1st round pick?

The league won't allow any further transactions between the Clippers and Celtics this summer because they are convinced whatever moves they make will be connected to / contingent upon the Doc Rivers deal.

It's not actually about the Clippers getting "enough value."  The value aspect of it was only relevant insofar as it caused suspicion in the league office that the KG for DJ trade was not a standalone deal, i.e. the Clippers were only agreeing to it because they knew they were getting Doc Rivers, too.

So doing it without the 1st round pick wouldn't make a difference.

[lightspeed5]

why would KG accept a trade to a basement dwelling team? sacramento laughs at that trade, theyd rather keep cousins. new orleans isnot going to trade gordon for bradley. houston is keeping t-rob. memphis is not going to waste a trade exception for lee, especially when they already have the same player in tony allen.

these 6 way trades are jokes and never work.

[LilRip]

even if we're able to pull off just the first trade of KG+Sully for Cousins, i'd be ecstatic. I'd even throw in Bradley and one of our own picks if necessary. I think Rondo+Green+Cousins would be a fine trio to build around (if we could indeed harness the attitudes). Plus, if we could flip Pierce in a 3-team trade to get Josh Smith, then the C's would be pretty nasty.

[slamtheking]

I think Sac gets too much in that first trade:
Minus for Sac: lose DMC
Plus for Sac: get Jordan, Sully, 2 1st rounders AND the ability to dump a less-than-productive Salmons with a lousy contract.  Way too much to give Sac.

C's also lose KG, Sully and a #1 for a max-contract-demanding DMC AND Salmons on a bad contract that isn't expiring.  Since Salmons $ needs to be included to make the deal work, either keep Sully or the pick (preferably Sully)

In the Memphis deal, they might have done it if Lee hadn't played like crap this year.  If he was making outside shots, they'd probably do it.

overall, I think it's an intriguing lineup you've put together.  Keep Sully and that would be a pretty solid young core to add to (provided Gordon stays healthy, we get a better back up SF instead of Salmons, we get a real backup PG instead of TWill AND we get a real backup C instead of Melo.)

[connor]

Clearly some thought went into this.

Based on past statements, it seems like the league would not approve the Clips sending out Jordan and a 1st for KG. They do not think that the Clips would be getting enough value.

Can you make this work without the 1st round pick?

The league won't allow any further transactions between the Clippers and Celtics this summer because they are convinced whatever moves they make will be connected to / contingent upon the Doc Rivers deal.

It's not actually about the Clippers getting "enough value."  The value aspect of it was only relevant insofar as it caused suspicion in the league office that the KG for DJ trade was not a standalone deal, i.e. the Clippers were only agreeing to it because they knew they were getting Doc Rivers, too.

So doing it without the 1st round pick wouldn't make a difference.

My hope was that if there is a 3rd team included then the league would let it go through since it becomes an entirely new trade. If they vetoed it then it would be unfair to SAC.

why would KG accept a trade to a basement dwelling team? sacramento laughs at that trade, theyd rather keep cousins. new orleans isnot going to trade gordon for bradley. houston is keeping t-rob. memphis is not going to waste a trade exception for lee, especially when they already have the same player in tony allen.

these 6 way trades are jokes and never work.

It's not a 6 way trade, they're 3 independent trades that each could work on their own.

KG ends up with the Clippers in that trade not the Kings, as was intended before (plays for Doc again).

The Sacramento trade is the suspect one, but given his outspoken demand for a max deal and recent reports that Cousins' market value is pretty poor given his attitude problems I think thats at least a starting point: https://twitter.com/SamAmicoFSO/status/348985060923408384
(Don't know Amico that well so it could be BS, but makes sense). Maybe we have to include our 2014, but its a starting point.

Memphis fans seem interested in Lee (or at least some do):
http://boards.grizzliesonline.com/index.php?showtopic=15189&st=0
http://boards.grizzliesonline.com/index.php?showtopic=15964&st=0
Tony Allen might not be coming back, and they need offense from the 2 guard and TA is all about defense. Lee shot 46% from the field.

It's been widely reported that TRob is on the block for a first so they can stash a Euro, but I think he can be had for an early second (non-guaranteed contract) and a trade exception for the cap savings (maybe throw in our China non-guaranteed contracts as well).

And Gordon for Bradley and Pierce was widely discussed previously (with NO either cutting Pierce or keeping him), I think they'd prefer getting a nice big TE to chase a star to pair with their young core rather than having to waive Pierce for 5m buyout and their fans seem excited at the opportunity to get Bradley and rid of Gordon:
http://www.pelicansreport.com/showthread.php?76522-Gordon-for-Pierce-and-Bradley/page2

There is a basis for all the trades, whether they'd be accepted or not is up for debate, but they aren't crazy ridiculous or anything.

[tyrone biggums]

even if we're able to pull off just the first trade of KG+Sully for Cousins, i'd be ecstatic. I'd even throw in Bradley and one of our own picks if necessary. I think Rondo+Green+Cousins would be a fine trio to build around (if we could indeed harness the attitudes). Plus, if we could flip Pierce in a 3-team trade to get Josh Smith, then the C's would be pretty nasty.

I wouldn't. Despite his height limitations a lot of the reasons for his struggles in college and last year was due to the restrictions the bulging disc placed on his vertical. I think he's going to be a great pro. Might not have Cousins talent but we essentially got if healthy a top 5-7 pick in the draft last year. He'll be a better pro than Thomas Robinson.

That being said I would trade the 16 for T-Rob in a heartbeat

[LilRip]

even if we're able to pull off just the first trade of KG+Sully for Cousins, i'd be ecstatic. I'd even throw in Bradley and one of our own picks if necessary. I think Rondo+Green+Cousins would be a fine trio to build around (if we could indeed harness the attitudes). Plus, if we could flip Pierce in a 3-team trade to get Josh Smith, then the C's would be pretty nasty.

I wouldn't. Despite his height limitations a lot of the reasons for his struggles in college and last year was due to the restrictions the bulging disc placed on his vertical. I think he's going to be a great pro. Might not have Cousins talent but we essentially got if healthy a top 5-7 pick in the draft last year. He'll be a better pro than Thomas Robinson.

That being said I would trade the 16 for T-Rob in a heartbeat

DMC is a legit center and i think that's harder to find than a useful 4. I like Sully but he strikes me as a solid role player who'll have a solid career rather than being one of the main building blocks of a rebuilding franchise. If DMC can get his act together, attitude-wise, then he's a block. Rondo is obviously another building block. Jeff Green would shine as a #3 guy.

another reason why I like the deal is because it also sends KG to the Clippers to play with Doc. i'm not pro-Clippers but i would like KG to end up playing his last 1 or 2 seasons how he wants it.

as for T-Rob and the Gordon trade, i'm indifferent. without the DMC trade, i don't think they'll really move the needle in terms of a "rebuild".

[connor]

even if we're able to pull off just the first trade of KG+Sully for Cousins, i'd be ecstatic. I'd even throw in Bradley and one of our own picks if necessary. I think Rondo+Green+Cousins would be a fine trio to build around (if we could indeed harness the attitudes). Plus, if we could flip Pierce in a 3-team trade to get Josh Smith, then the C's would be pretty nasty.

I wouldn't. Despite his height limitations a lot of the reasons for his struggles in college and last year was due to the restrictions the bulging disc placed on his vertical. I think he's going to be a great pro. Might not have Cousins talent but we essentially got if healthy a top 5-7 pick in the draft last year. He'll be a better pro than Thomas Robinson.

That being said I would trade the 16 for T-Rob in a heartbeat

Yeah but Sully's ceiling is way below DMC's. Cousins is building block talent and Sully is at best a solid starting PF. DMC comes with the behavioral risks, but Sully could very well have back issues for his career (backs aren't as bad as knees, but they can flare up just as often).

Personally I'd rather keep Sully than TRob, but in this scenario SAC already traded TRob so I don't think they are going to be looking to bring him back if they didn't like what they saw when they had him.