Source: Trade Talks Aren’t Over Between the Celtics and Clippers

[j804]

Dan Woike @DanWoikeSports 1 minute ago
Source: Brian Shaw is at the Clippers' office for his second interview.

If he leaves without a contract Danny is somewhere winking his eye with his phone nearby...

They can give all the interviews they want. It seemed suspect that right after the trade "fell apart" suddenly one of the Clippers media people listed all the interviews the coaches line up. To me this is just a leverage ploy.

If they want to hire Shaw, I hope they do it. Then I hope CP3 leaves.

Agreed, these next few hours will be real interesting given that Shaw is sitting down w/ Sterling and Danny w/ Doc. We should know more about the situation by the evening.

[clover]

I'm sorry to see that cash was a priority in the C's negotiations--especially given how much they were about to save by shipping out Doc.  Far better if it were only actual team assets they were after.

Trying to squeeze Don Sterling for cash doesn't sound like a smart thing.

Presuming, of course, that this story is accurate.

[Rondo2287]

I'm sorry to see that cash was a priority in the C's negotiations--especially given how much they were about to save by shipping out Doc.  Far better if it were only actual team assets they were after.

Trying to squeeze Don Sterling for cash doesn't sound like a smart thing.

Presuming, of course, that this story is accurate.

where did you see the celts were trying to squeeze Sterling for money?

[sed522002]

I just want it to be over with...whatever "it" is.

[Chris]

I'm sorry to see that cash was a priority in the C's negotiations--especially given how much they were about to save by shipping out Doc.  Far better if it were only actual team assets they were after.

Trying to squeeze Don Sterling for cash doesn't sound like a smart thing.

Presuming, of course, that this story is accurate.

where did you see the celts were trying to squeeze Sterling for money?

Yeah, I think this is a bit of a misunderstanding, or twisting of the facts.

The C's were looking at an option, that would give them cap savings, by sending Lee or Terry for an expiring contract, but that wasn't so much a money issue for the clippers, that was about cap flexibility for a follow-up trade.

The other money issues were out of the C's hands.  The Clippers are obliged to pay Jordan's trade kicker, based on the new CBA.  There was not choice about that. 

The other money issue was about Doc's contract.  There is reason to believe that Sterling got cold feet about paying $35 million to a coach.  But again, that wasn't coming from the C's side.

[Snakehead]

The "sources" on this one seem like absolutely nothing of worth.

Not that it couldn't happen, but I doubt anyone is saying that.

[Chris]

The "sources" on this one seem like absolutely nothing of worth.

Not that it couldn't happen, but I doubt anyone is saying that.

I don't think you need "sources" on this.  I think it is just common sense that, if things don't change in the next couple days, they will revisit this (in some form or another).

There was too much momentum for it to go away unless something comes off the table.

It's also worth noting that this was going on during the finals, and distracting from the finals.  I have a feeling Stern gave both teams a call yesterday morning and said that they need to either make a deal, or break it off until the end of the finals, so they wont overshadow game 6 with more rumors. 

[j804]

The "sources" on this one seem like absolutely nothing of worth.

Not that it couldn't happen, but I doubt anyone is saying that.

I don't think you need "sources" on this.  I think it is just common sense that, if things don't change in the next couple days, they will revisit this (in some form or another).

There was too much momentum for it to go away unless something comes off the table.

It's also worth noting that this was going on during the finals, and distracting from the finals.  I have a feeling Stern gave both teams a call yesterday morning and said that they need to either make a deal, or break it off until the end of the finals, so they wont overshadow game 6 with more rumors.

pretty much if Shaw isn't hired for his SECOND visit and sit down with Sterling and Doc/Danny are still mum about things well that tells you all need to know the deal is wide open

[Chris]

The "sources" on this one seem like absolutely nothing of worth.

Not that it couldn't happen, but I doubt anyone is saying that.

I don't think you need "sources" on this.  I think it is just common sense that, if things don't change in the next couple days, they will revisit this (in some form or another).

There was too much momentum for it to go away unless something comes off the table.

It's also worth noting that this was going on during the finals, and distracting from the finals.  I have a feeling Stern gave both teams a call yesterday morning and said that they need to either make a deal, or break it off until the end of the finals, so they wont overshadow game 6 with more rumors.

pretty much if Shaw isn't hired for his SECOND visit and sit down with Sterling and Doc/Danny are still mum about things well that tells you all need to know the deal is wide open

Well, even if Shaw is hired, it doesn't mean a KG trade is off the table.

Honestly, I would be shocked if the Clippers hired Doc at this point.  I just think they are balking at his contract needs.  I think THAT is what really killed the deal. 

[Fred Roberts]

take the dang 1st round pick and get a second rounder and jordan and move on. love kg to death but we need picks and assets, and that would give us 3. something, at least.

I'm so done with Doc I can't believe it's not done. KG is the greatest but what must be must be. 2014 draft is (apparently) too rich to not be in the lottery for.

[Chris]

take the dang 1st round pick and get a second rounder and jordan and move on. love kg to death but we need picks and assets, and that would give us 3. something, at least.

I'm so done with Doc I can't believe it's not done. KG is the greatest but what must be must be. 2014 draft is (apparently) too rich to not be in the lottery for.

Honestly, I think if Danny caves that much now, he won't ever be able to get anything done moving forward.  The Clippers made it impossible to accept the trade without completely emasculating him.  If he just accepts that deal, then every GM in the league will do nothing but low-ball him.

Now, if the Clippers come back and say Jordan and a first just for KG and no Doc...then I think he can pull the trigger.  And I think there is a good chance that is what happens. 

[j804]

The "sources" on this one seem like absolutely nothing of worth.

Not that it couldn't happen, but I doubt anyone is saying that.

I don't think you need "sources" on this.  I think it is just common sense that, if things don't change in the next couple days, they will revisit this (in some form or another).

There was too much momentum for it to go away unless something comes off the table.

It's also worth noting that this was going on during the finals, and distracting from the finals.  I have a feeling Stern gave both teams a call yesterday morning and said that they need to either make a deal, or break it off until the end of the finals, so they wont overshadow game 6 with more rumors.

pretty much if Shaw isn't hired for his SECOND visit and sit down with Sterling and Doc/Danny are still mum about things well that tells you all need to know the deal is wide open

Well, even if Shaw is hired, it doesn't mean a KG trade is off the table.

I don't see KG wanting to play for a young guy like Shaw though maybe Hollins or a more old school coach.

[csfansince60s]

Wanna really squeeze Sterling and those Clipper rumor mongers (lies floated like Dwight to Clips without a prayer in the world chance that Kupchak does that, Doc "saying" they should hold out Bledsoe from the deal to poison Doc here and this new horse manure about 3 great coaching candidates))who are still trying to leverage us by dumb-ass rumors? Here's how you do it.

Just before the Draft, trade Pierce to Houston, Dallas or the Hawks, or have deals in place so they can pick for us and do the trade as close to free-agency as possible.. Then tell the Clips that we will speak to them after free-agency starts, unless they wanna talk now, between the Draft and free-agency on our terms.

The closer Ainge can get to the free-agency window, the stronger our bargaining position becomes, because the greater pressure on them to please CP3 or he walks. Sterling already p---ed Paul off once this month by throwing him under the bus for the Vinny D firing.

They want this deal bad. The fact that Sterling is a wild card is just another card they play as to why they can be unreasonable. C'mon Danny, don't be fooled here.

[D Dub]

The reason Chris Paul hasn't decided on a new coach yet is because him and Dwight are window shopping in Hou and Atl.

Make no mistake, the Clips are worse off without that deal than the Celts. 




 

[Chris]

The "sources" on this one seem like absolutely nothing of worth.

Not that it couldn't happen, but I doubt anyone is saying that.

I don't think you need "sources" on this.  I think it is just common sense that, if things don't change in the next couple days, they will revisit this (in some form or another).

There was too much momentum for it to go away unless something comes off the table.

It's also worth noting that this was going on during the finals, and distracting from the finals.  I have a feeling Stern gave both teams a call yesterday morning and said that they need to either make a deal, or break it off until the end of the finals, so they wont overshadow game 6 with more rumors.

pretty much if Shaw isn't hired for his SECOND visit and sit down with Sterling and Doc/Danny are still mum about things well that tells you all need to know the deal is wide open

Well, even if Shaw is hired, it doesn't mean a KG trade is off the table.

I don't see KG wanting to play for a young guy like Shaw though maybe Hollins or a more old school coach.

I don't think KG would have a problem with the coach.