Landing spots for Pierce

[CFAN38]

It is pretty clear that when this Clippers deal gets figured out that Paul will be shipped out to a team looking to save $$.

From what I understand this will have to happen before June 30th and experts are predicting a resolution by the draft.

I looked over the trade checker and these are the teams I could see being interested.

Nets - they are way over cap, maybe something built around relieving them of Humphries 12mill

Bobcats - Have Gordon 12.4mill and Thomas 8mill both on the roster and not part of there plan

Detroit - Stucky 8.5 and Villanueva 8.1 are both eating up $$ and not part of the teams future.

Pacers - they could use the Cs to make a clean break from Granger to free up $$. (not likely)

Bucks - Gooden's 6.7mill but they would have to use IIyasova or Moute and Udoh (not likely)

Knicks - Amare (not happening)

Magic - Nelson and Harrington add up to little over 15mill, they do have a back log of 1st

Toronto - Bargnani + Kleiza

Dallas - Marion + Morrow + Carter = 15mill\

Warriors - have Jefferson 10mill, Biedris 9mill taking up $$ that they would rather use on Jack and Landry

Houston - might look to clean out if they can get Dwight

Suns - Frye, Beasley and Scola (would have to have major compensation to take on beasley and Frye.

Kings - Salmons, Hayes and Outlaw  = 13mill

I think its going to come down to who has the most incentive to give up a pick for cap space. I expect it to come down to teams who think they can get Howard. My other most likely would be the Warriors.

Warriors trade Jefferson + Rush + 2014 1st (lottery protected) for Pierce. That would save them 10mill and put them in a good place to keep last years team together.

[aporel#18]

This trade works out well if the Celts are getting expiring contracts, so the other team save money now and the Cs get flexibility next summer.

The Dallas one would be good, even with Marion+Carter and the pick. I don't know the other ones, but taking longterm contracts is not a good idea.

[drogbagarnett]

It is pretty clear that when this Clippers deal gets figured out that Paul will be shipped out to a team looking to save $$.

From what I understand this will have to happen before June 30th and experts are predicting a resolution by the draft.

I looked over the trade checker and these are the teams I could see being interested.

Nets - they are way over cap, maybe something built around relieving them of Humphries 12mill

Bobcats - Have Gordon 12.4mill and Thomas 8mill both on the roster and not part of there plan

Detroit - Stucky 8.5 and Villanueva 8.1 are both eating up $$ and not part of the teams future.

Pacers - they could use the Cs to make a clean break from Granger to free up $$. (not likely)

Bucks - Gooden's 6.7mill but they would have to use IIyasova or Moute and Udoh (not likely)

Knicks - Amare (not happening)

Magic - Nelson and Harrington add up to little over 15mill, they do have a back log of 1st

Toronto - Bargnani + Kleiza

Dallas - Marion + Morrow + Carter = 15mill\

Warriors - have Jefferson 10mill, Biedris 9mill taking up $$ that they would rather use on Jack and Landry

Houston - might look to clean out if they can get Dwight

Suns - Frye, Beasley and Scola (would have to have major compensation to take on beasley and Frye.

Kings - Salmons, Hayes and Outlaw  = 13mill

I think its going to come down to who has the most incentive to give up a pick for cap space. I expect it to come down to teams who think they can get Howard. My other most likely would be the Warriors.

Warriors trade Jefferson + Rush + 2014 1st (lottery protected) for Pierce. That would save them 10mill and put them in a good place to keep last years team together.

I think the best option is Beasley and Frye with Gortat for Pierce, melo and Lee... And a switch of picks #16 for #30.
Gortat said explicitely he wasn't interested in rebuilding in Phoenix... Phoenix currently constituted is looking to tank for the 2014 class! So we can help them free some cap space, get a good pick and be bad for winggins...

[SHAQATTACK]

Celtics

[Yoki_IsTheName]

How about keep him and let him retire here.

I mean, unless you can find someone who wants Pierce and would give a guy who averages 18/6/4 per game, then trade him to them.

[CFAN38]

How about keep him and let him retire here.

I mean, unless you can find someone who wants Pierce and would give a guy who averages 18/6/4 per game, then trade him to them.

People need to look past the production of Pierce and see the big picture. After Paul retires he is of no on the court value to the Celtics. By trading him for future useable assets the Cs can help speed up the rebuilding process. When he does retire he should be offered a job with the franchise but at this point he needs to either be bought out for cap savings or traded for assets.

[Sketch5]

Unless your getting picks with a trade for some one that is off the books next year, I say you should just keep Pierce, considering that he's off the books next season.

So either you get a first rounder with an expiring or you get some younger legs that will at best fill roster spots and could be used in future trades.

Or you just keep him, have him come off the bench and let Green try to do his thing. Just trading for expiring doesn't make sense since he is also an expiring as well. KG's contract would be some thing you'd want to move now for an expiring for next season.

[PhoSita]

I'd be okay with that Humphries + Brooks + 1st package we supposedly had on the table last year.  But the Nets probably aren't interested.

Best option I think is Pierce to Dallas for Marion + Carter + filler for the #13.  Dallas waives Pierce and gets additional cap space.

[eugen]

How about trading PP for Kirilenko+Rubio

[tarheelsxxiii]

I like some of those trades. Wish we had managed to pick up Barnes earlier last season.

Unrelated question, and maybe this is something I'm just missing... what's the purpose of trading one expiring contract for another (or others)? If that's the only option, why not just let Pierce retire a Celtic?

Edit: I missed Sketch5's post above. Looks like he is proposing we just stand pat in this scenario, too.

[saltlover]

I'd be okay with that Humphries + Brooks + 1st package we supposedly had on the table last year.  But the Nets probably aren't interested.

Best option I think is Pierce to Dallas for Marion + Carter + filler for the #13.  Dallas waives Pierce and gets additional cap space.

Players with ETO's for the next season can't be traded in June (unless maybe their ETO deadline has passed, but I'm unclear about that detail.)  Accordingly, Marion is probably not tradeable.  Same with Biedrins.  (Except Biedrins deadline may have already passed.  He's officially not opting out.  So maybe not Biedrins).

[connor]

How about trading PP for Kirilenko+Rubio

Good luck with that one champ.

I like some of those trades. Wish we had managed to pick up Barnes earlier last season.

Unrelated question, and maybe this is something I'm just missing... what's the purpose of trading one expiring contract for another (or others)? If that's the only option, why not just let Pierce retire a Celtic?

Edit: I missed Sketch5's post above. Looks like he is proposing we just stand pat in this scenario, too.

The idea would be to get back expiring deals and a draft pick, which they would part with for the opportunity to waive PP and get the cap room.

If you check out the OP's suggestion in green he has 2 expirings and a lottery protected pick coming back to us.

Of the deals on that list I don't think the Pacers, PIstons, Bucks, Knicks, Kings or Suns deals are realistic. Pacers seem intent on keeping Granger, Pistons aren't competing at the moment, Bucks don't have enough trash to give up for a guy they'd waive, Knicks ain't happening, Kings have more problems than salary dumping and the Suns probably don't want to have to give up the picks required to move those bad contracts.

The Nets would definitely be interested, but I don't think they'd give up that much unless they had another deal lined up and really needed the space. They'd probably balk at both Brooks and a first, it'd be one or the other.

I think the Warriors would make a ton of sense. I'd like Ezeli and a first back if possible (or Draymond Green).

The Dallas deal sounds good if we get the 13th pick, especially if we could move Marion and/or Carter near the deadline to a contender.

I wouldn't want Nelson's contract back, but I'd take back Turkoglu's terrible 11m if we could get one of their young pieces.

I'd take back Bargs from Toronto, but most people here probably disagree with me (I'd want a future 1st too).

[tarheelsxxiii]

How about trading PP for Kirilenko+Rubio

Good luck with that one champ.

I like some of those trades. Wish we had managed to pick up Barnes earlier last season.

Unrelated question, and maybe this is something I'm just missing... what's the purpose of trading one expiring contract for another (or others)? If that's the only option, why not just let Pierce retire a Celtic?

Edit: I missed Sketch5's post above. Looks like he is proposing we just stand pat in this scenario, too.

The idea would be to get back expiring deals and a draft pick, which they would part with for the opportunity to waive PP and get the cap room.

If you check out the OP's suggestion in green he has 2 expirings and a lottery protected pick coming back to us.

Of the deals on that list I don't think the Pacers, PIstons, Bucks, Knicks, Kings or Suns deals are realistic. Pacers seem intent on keeping Granger, Pistons aren't competing at the moment, Bucks don't have enough trash to give up for a guy they'd waive, Knicks ain't happening, Kings have more problems than salary dumping and the Suns probably don't want to have to give up the picks required to move those bad contracts.

The Nets would definitely be interested, but I don't think they'd give up that much unless they had another deal lined up and really needed the space. They'd probably balk at both Brooks and a first, it'd be one or the other.

I think the Warriors would make a ton of sense. I'd like Ezeli and a first back if possible (or Draymond Green).

The Dallas deal sounds good if we get the 13th pick, especially if we could move Marion and/or Carter near the deadline to a contender.

I wouldn't want Nelson's contract back, but I'd take back Turkoglu's terrible 11m if we could get one of their young pieces.

I'd take back Bargs from Toronto, but most people here probably disagree with me (I'd want a future 1st too).

That makes sense, thanks.

It seems as long as the salaries are comparable (which they must be, correct?), the best offer is likely the be the one that brings back the best pick. Sound right?

I imagine this may have been discussed elsewhere - apologize if redundant - but is it not possible to trade Pierce, then resign him for a smaller contract after he is waived by the other team?

[#1P4P]

What terrible options...

Paul Pierce on an expiring contract or average to below average NBA players on expiring contracts?

A box of [insert your favorite cereal] or a bowl of soggy Rice Krispies?

Those are enemy deals; a GM offers you that and you're instant enemies for slapping him in the face. There's 0 consideration for those offers unless they're coming with a good prospect on a rookie deal or a lottery pick... 0.

[CelticConcourse]

You forgot Boston.