If the Clippers won't give up Bledsoe would you do the deal?

[chambers]

So the Clippers are 'refusing to budge' on their stance of not including Bledsoe in a KG /Doc deal with DeAndre Jordan and picks.

I really think Danny will hold out on this because there really isn't much point in us taking back Jordan is there?
One thing is clear... Danny's plan A is to blow this sucker up and go after Wiggins and Parker.
Would he just accept Jordan and some picks? If the Clips hold out would they take Terry and or Lee off our hands for Caron Butler?
If it came down to the last 30 minutes of a trade deadline, what would you do? What do you think Danny should do. Take Jordan and know he'll be movable in a year after Rondos assists pad his stats...or just ride it out with KG. I'm assuming if this falls through Pierce probably stays at least until the Feb deadline...
It's a tough call and if Danny has his sights set on The 2014 super draft sweepstakes he may just roll the dice.
That's our perspective but from the Clippers GM's perspective he's got to know that Chris Paul is itching for this to go through, and Bledsoe stopping it from happening could be enough for CP3 to throw in the towel and join Dwight in Houston or Dallas. Would they be willing to lose CP3 over Eric Bledsoe?
Surely not. It's is Danny's trump card. At the end of the day we can tank any way we want.With or without Bledsoe or Jordan. The clippers have a deal on their hands that cements them as a top 4 team for the next 3 years and the deal is on the table. No way they let an undersized Combo guard get in the way.

What would you do?


Also find it funny that Dr J made those statements about the Celtics and Lakers robbing other teams in major trades...wonder if he'd heard about this going down...

[rondohondo]

if no bledsoe then

Bos sends: KG, Doc, Terry, Lee
Lac sends: Jordan,Butler(expiring)2013 1st rd, 2014 1st rd

This clears a lot of long term salary , and gets us a young starting center , who will also be an expiring after next season.

Sets us up with

#16 and clippers pick in 2013
a likely lottery pick for C's  and clips pick in 2014



Then in 2015 Big men like

Love
Aldridge
Marc Gasol

all could be free agents

we would have the cap space and cheap rookie deals to trade for these guys

You still have PP contract and Bradley/ sully as trade chips as well this year.

[slamdunk]

if no bledsoe then

Bos sends: KG, Doc, Terry, Lee
Lac sends: Jordan,Butler(expiring)2013 1st rd, 2014 1st rd

This clears a lot of long term salary , and gets us a young starting center , who will also be an expiring after next season.

Sets us up with

#16 and clippers pick in 2013
a likely lottery pick for C's  and clips pick in 2014



Then in 2015 Big men like

Love
Aldridge
Marc Gasol

all could be free agents

we would have the cap space and cheap rookie deals to trade for these guys

You still have PP contract and Bradley/ sully as trade chips as well this year.

You would have cap space in 15 without doing this trade. Other than Lee, all those contracts will be off the books by then. I'd rather keep KG/Pierce/etc and make one last run at a title.

[chambers]

if no bledsoe then

Bos sends: KG, Doc, Terry, Lee
Lac sends: Jordan,Butler(expiring)2013 1st rd, 2014 1st rd

This clears a lot of long term salary , and gets us a young starting center , who will also be an expiring after next season.

Sets us up with

#16 and clippers pick in 2013
a likely lottery pick for C's  and clips pick in 2014



Then in 2015 Big men like

Love
Aldridge
Marc Gasol

all could be free agents

we would have the cap space and cheap rookie deals to trade for these guys

You still have PP contract and Bradley/ sully as trade chips as well this year.

Nice idea. I'm wondering if they'd give us Bledsoe if we swapped picks this year? Perhaps they take...
Terry, Bass, KG, Doc, our 2013 first rounder. Pierce off waivers.
For
Bledsoe,Jordan and Caron Butler + 2014,2015 first round picks

Leaves us with only Lee as bench junk on books after next season...probably too much but sures up their bench as a contender.
They become the Los Angeles Celtics, heck ill be rooting for them while we tank away.

[SHAQATTACK]

Doc will never coach the Celtics again,   he has turned his back on the team ,  dis em good,   not sure they will give their all for a unstable coach anymore

If Doc "MASTER SCHEME"  to be a Clipper and run away with the Celtics crown jewels fails and help build a "super" team in another city ,  he won't even have the nerve to return ....

We don't get Bledsoe its not even a second thought,  also should unload some bad contract on them as well.....TERRY and LEE come to mind.   

They want Doc released ...then make em pay HUGE....Doc has screwed up his great gig at Boston for a pipe dream of CP3 and DH

Bledsoe could be used to get a HIGH first round pick or a player like Milsap.

I wouldn't give a box of milk duds for RIvers sleazy self.

Jordon , Bledsoe and 2 first s  ( which are late round s ) 

Danny should ask the MOON or else bring the shameless RIvers back and let him suffer , till he walks out ( slinks off) as a broadcaster ...retain his rights and make him beg to be let out of his contract.

We should hire Hollins and demote RIvers to an assistant coach or water BOY

[Moranis]

I think you have to do it.  Is any other team going to give up a young center and 2 first round picks for KG.  As for Doc, he needs to go as he clearly doesn't want to be in Boston and his replacement will be much cheaper. 

[Xepa]

Doc will never coach the Celtics again,   he has turned his back on the team ,  dis em good,   not sure they will give their all for a unstable coach anymore

If Doc "MASTER SCHEME"  to be a Clipper and run away with the Celtics crown jewels fails and help build a "super" team in another city ,  he won't even have the nerve to return ....

We don't get Bledsoe its not even a second thought,  also should unload some bad contract on them as well.....TERRY and LEE come to mind.   

They want Doc released ...then make em pay HUGE....Doc has screwed up his great gig at Boston for a pipe dream of CP3 and DH

Bledsoe could be used to get a HIGH first round pick or a player like Milsap.

I wouldn't give a box of milk duds for RIvers sleazy self.

Jordon , Bledsoe and 2 first s  ( which are late round s ) 

Danny should ask the MOON or else bring the shameless RIvers back and let him suffer , till he walks out ( slinks off) as a broadcaster ...retain his rights and make him beg to be let out of his contract.

We should hire Hollins and demote RIvers to an assistant coach or water BOY

Uhhh yah...and this is exactly NOT how to run a multi-million dollar NBA franchise. Out of spite instead of long term business success.

[LGC88]

No bledsoe, no deal. That's the only piece to start a rebuild. Jordan is just a trading chip.

[connor]

No thanks. I'd consider it if we could dump Bass and Terry and got something like 2 firsts, one 2014 and the other lottery guaranteed, but other than that no thanks.

If the other option is running it back with KG, PP and Doc, I realize thats not a championship roster, but I'd rather watch them with Rondo and Sully back and then maybe make some deadline moves.

I'm not giving in to LAC though.

I think the DJ and 2 picks deal is unfair to us and the DJ, Bledsoe and 2 firsts is unfair to them. I'd take DJ and Bledsoe straight up (preferably with a 1st included), but if they can't meet in the middle we should just abandon it.

[CoachBo]

I wouldn't do the deal with Bledsoe.

NO Clipper scrubs.

[chambers]

I think you have to do it.  Is any other team going to give up a young center and 2 first round picks for KG.  As for Doc, he needs to go as he clearly doesn't want to be in Boston and his replacement will be much cheaper.

I don't know if Doc is the catalyst for this. It could just aswell be Ainge trying to get us much as possible for the old crew before he sends them packing anyway. I tend to agree that we should take Jordan and Butler +2 firsts if we absolutely must. Danny wants to rebuild and probably via the draft with so much talent coming up in 2014.
There's plenty of posturing going on from both teams at this point.
Danny wants to get bad but he also wants assets in case we get struck by the old celtics curse on 2014 ping pong ball night.
He always has a backup plan with the assets he's constantly collecting and this is part of his 2014 draft quest.
Build up Jordan's trade value with Rondo giving him easy looks and being more of a go to offensive option. See if Sully turns into a Carlos Boozer type stud PF. See if Green can average 22/5/5 on 35 mins a night at SF. See if Rondo can become a solid offensive option and shooter. See if Avery can hit some shots and finish at the rim.
Let Rondo come back Half way through the season to ensure we lose as many games as possible whilst giving Bledsoe starter minutes to see if he can lead a team at the point.

[CelticConcourse]

Bledsoe is the big money.

That or Griffin.

[TripleOT]

I've seen a report that Doc doesn't want Bledsoe in the trade because he wants to coach him in LA.  If that's true, Doc is being disloyal to the Celtics. 

However, if the Clips won't budge on Bledsoe, and Doc and KG  are going to retire anyways, I do the deal for DJ and two number one picks, as long as the Clips are willing to take Bass and Lee for Butler's expiring deal.

I have no problem having Jordan on a rebuilding roster, even though for the next two years he's being overpaid at $11m per.  He and Rondo will be the only big money players, and would be a valuable trade chip for a contender looking for an athletic rim defender.   

[chambers]

"Sources say that the Clippers, meanwhile, have already engaged the Orlando Magic and Indiana Pacers in separate trade discussions headlined by Bledsoe, with Orlando's Arron Afflalo and Indiana's Danny Granger as the respective trade targets. Indiana, according to sources, is leaning at present toward keeping Granger for the final season of his contract in hopes that the former All-Star swingman's return from knee surgery can help the Pacers close the gap on Miami in the East, but L.A. has been operating for months under the premise that Bledsoe, once Paul re-signs, will be dealt before becoming a restricted free agent in July 2014. ESPN.com
Read more at http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#6oEqfZcSjpiohYJ2.99 "

Lol now Clippers beat writers are hearing from 'sources' that Granger and Afflalo are potential targets. That will keep CP3 happy. Not.
Aaron Afflalo leading the Clippers to the promised land haha.

This looks good for us. Clippers getting desperate floating this crap as how they are 'moving on' lol

[TripleOT]

Afflalo, 6-5 215, 16.5 ppg in 36 minutes, shooting 44/30%, $7.5m salary.

Matt Barnes 6-7, 235, 10 ppg in 25 minutes, (14.4 per 36 min) shooting 46/34%, $1.2m salary.

It's way tougher for an NBA team to acquire a defensive minded, floor stretching big than a mid-quality wing. The Clips would be way better off with KG and wins like Barnes and FA Anthony Morrow for $3m combined than trading Bledsoe for Afflalo. 

No Bledsoe in either case.  KG, Barnes, and generic vet wing for $15m combined, or Jordan and Afflalo for $19m - no brainer. Or, instead  of signing a second vetmin wing, use that money and the $4m difference in salary between these two proposals to sign a Pierce for the MLE.

KG, Pierce, and Barnes for $18m, or
Jordan, Afflalo for $18m --- serious no brainer.