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Clippers and Celtics Trade idea
« on: June 12, 2013, 09:33:13 PM »

Offline Diggles

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Who would say no.  In light of Doc not wanting to rebuild and PP and KG being the domino here, would teams agree to this trade?

Doc, PP and KG #16 pick

Jordan, Butler and Crawford and future 2015 first?

Rondo still has some recover time to get back to playing shape.  So I'm assuming he won't start the season starting. 

Bradley/Rondo/T Will
Crawford/Lee/Crawford
Green/Butler
Sullinger/Bass
Jordan/Wilcox/Melo

Chris Paul
Billuops/Bledsoe
PP/Hill
Griffin/Odom
KG/Hollins

Some how we mover Terry for cap space or send him to a contender? 
« Last Edit: June 12, 2013, 09:36:08 PM by wdleehi »
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Re: Clippers and Celtics Trade idea
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2013, 09:39:21 PM »

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I think it is a very likely outcome but I would not toss in that #16 pick.

Re: Clippers and Celtics Trade idea
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2013, 09:57:04 PM »

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It's a good idea although if I were DA, I would hold out for Blake til the 11th hour and 59th second and see if the Clips budge.

Re: Clippers and Celtics Trade idea
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2013, 09:58:27 PM »

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Can you actually trade coaches? O_o
Jeff Green - Top 5 SF

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Re: Clippers and Celtics Trade idea
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2013, 10:00:06 PM »

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I disagree with given up the 16th pick we should get Jordan , Bledsoe , take butler contract buy it out receive clippers 1st round pick for this and  the next 3years as compensation for losing doc rivers as are head coach that's fair.

Re: Clippers and Celtics Trade idea
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2013, 10:02:57 PM »

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Can you actually trade coaches? O_o

No, you can't trade a coach but you could get a pick for compensation for letting them talk to Doc.  Then the rest of the trade is just a trade.

And I don't see why we give them the #16 in this.  Maybe if it was Griffin instead of Jordan which would be alright with me too.

Re: Clippers and Celtics Trade idea
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2013, 10:06:16 PM »

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There is a massive difference between the trade value of DeAndre Jordan and the trade value of Blake Griffin.

Massive.
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Re: Clippers and Celtics Trade idea
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2013, 10:43:48 PM »

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I think it is a very likely outcome but I would not toss in that #16 pick.

If I'm Boston, swapping this years pick with the Clippers pick in two years/three from now seems in favor of Boston.  Basically we are getting Jordan on borrowed time with PP/KG.  These two have maybe two years tops.  CP3/PP/KG/Griffin have a two year window.  Then they go into rebuild mode making that pick better than our #16.  Asking for Bledsoe just seems like a redundant PG/SG  log jam for Boston.  But if they would include him I'd ask around to move Terry. 
 

Brooklyn/Lakers/NY/OKC are ready to win next year and could use some of our role players.

This young core could attract a big FA in the next year or so?
Rondo/Bledsoe
Crawford/Bradley
Green
Sullinger
Jordan

Not sure if this team would be better than what we have now.  But we may collect some picks and have Rondo/Green/Jordan/Crawford~  35 Million

 
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Re: Clippers and Celtics Trade idea
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2013, 10:49:28 PM »

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I want Blake if we are giving up KG Paul and Doc.. I know that wont happen but would rather him then Deandre.

Re: Clippers and Celtics Trade idea
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2013, 10:50:16 PM »

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Who would say no.  In light of Doc not wanting to rebuild and PP and KG being the domino here, would teams agree to this trade?

Doc, PP and KG #16 pick

Jordan, Butler and Crawford and future 2015 first?

Rondo still has some recover time to get back to playing shape.  So I'm assuming he won't start the season starting. 

Bradley/Rondo/T Will
Crawford/Lee/Crawford
Green/Butler
Sullinger/Bass
Jordan/Wilcox/Melo

Chris Paul
Billuops/Bledsoe
PP/Hill
Griffin/Odom
KG/Hollins

Some how we mover Terry for cap space or send him to a contender?

This a impossible to happen. Can not trade coaches. LAC can not give you Jordan, unless they are crazy

Re: Clippers and Celtics Trade idea
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2013, 10:57:34 PM »

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The thing about a trade with the Clippers is you'd have to assume it would come with a promise from Chris Paul to resign with the Clippers.  Otherwise I don't think Paul stays with the Clippers.

Also, apparently there is some friction between Paul and Griffin so I think Griffin has to go for Paul to stay.  Jordon's and Butler's salary would have to be included to make it work as well.

Jordon is practically a liability with his contract. If I had to guess, I'd say the Celtics hold off for Jordon, Butler, Griffin and two #1's including one in this year's down draft, while sending Garnett, Pierce, Doc, and probably White's non guaranteed contract.

I'm sure Boston would be willing to work the deal out with a third team taking Jordon and Boston getting another player or even nobody and saving the salary.

Re: Clippers and Celtics Trade idea
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2013, 11:08:49 PM »

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Who would say no.  In light of Doc not wanting to rebuild and PP and KG being the domino here, would teams agree to this trade?

Doc, PP and KG #16 pick

Jordan, Butler and Crawford and future 2015 first?

Rondo still has some recover time to get back to playing shape.  So I'm assuming he won't start the season starting. 

Bradley/Rondo/T Will
Crawford/Lee/Crawford
Green/Butler
Sullinger/Bass
Jordan/Wilcox/Melo

Chris Paul
Billuops/Bledsoe
PP/Hill
Griffin/Odom
KG/Hollins

Some how we mover Terry for cap space or send him to a contender?

This a impossible to happen. Can not trade coaches. LAC can not give you Jordan, unless they are crazy

We have vastly different opinions of Jordon's worth.

Re: Clippers and Celtics Trade idea
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2013, 11:26:12 PM »

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I want Blake if we are giving up KG Paul and Doc.. I know that wont happen but would rather him then Deandre.

Same here. I know Bledsoe is talented and I know Jordan is athletic, but if we didn't get a superstar like Blake, I'd be a little disappointed.

I know Pierce and KG are old and shouldn't net you such a talented player in a deal, but we need a franchise player going forward for the future.

Re: Clippers and Celtics Trade idea
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2013, 02:10:05 AM »

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 That's 27 million going out for us. That means to make it work it would have to be Jordan, Crawford,Butler and Bledsoe Maybe we could add Avery Bradley and a pic to make it work.

Re: Clippers and Celtics Trade idea
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2013, 04:52:02 AM »

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I'm not a fan of this deal, in large part because I think Jordan is overpaid given that he is a liability in the 4th quarter, but also because we are giving up WAY too much for him.

If I'm the Clippers I'd rather have KG for the next 2 years than Jordan because, for a team wanting to be a contender in the playoffs, having a center who can only play 3 quarters doesn't really make sense, especially when he is making 10m.

A KG for Jordan swap straight up makes sense for me, but I could see why LAC would turn it  down given Jordan's youth and potential room to grow, but to move Pierce AND our 2013 first just seems like a MASSIVE overpayment for me.

Jordan is talented, but also majorly flawed. Crawford is a really nice piece but 33 and signed for 3 more years so whats his value on a rebuilding squad?

I just think there is much better return out there for Pierce and KG than basically Deandre Jordan and swapping firsts.

Bledsoe is the piece they NEED to move or he walks for nothing and yes he would be redundant on our squad, but teams like Utah and Orlando would give up some quality assets that fit our needs for a young PG.