Would Doc leaving be on Par with Ray?

[CelticG1]

Not to me.  I suppose if he left the Celtics for the Lakers, that would be, but otherwise no.  It's not that Ray left, it's where he went.  Same with Doc.

So what are your thoughts if the highest paid player in the league just didn't feel like playing out the remaining 3 years of his contract. And what's the difference between that and Doc.

If anything at least Ray Allen was a free agent, had been constantly in teade rumors and pretty much almost traded before and went to a team that he could play a minor role in to possibly win a championship as he approaches 40 years old during his last nba years

[nickagneta]

For me, there are very few players or coaches that I become so enamored with that once they leave a team I like, that I follow them any more or care two cents about them. I didn't like Perk being traded but once he was, I could care less about him. Same with Ray or Tony or Posey or whoever. And it will be the same with Doc.

If he leaves, he leaves. I would hope that all this talk of how he has been away from family means he is leaving the team to take time off or go into broadcasting but if he decides to advance his career by going to a win now team, so be it. I think he hurts his Celtic legacy some by doing that but if he goes, he goes.

[Evantime34]

Only if he goes to a team that I hate or is in the same division like the Lakers or Nets. If he goes to the Clippers and they are able to get some type of draft pick compensation for him I won't be upset to see him go.

[saltlover]

Not to me.  I suppose if he left the Celtics for the Lakers, that would be, but otherwise no.  It's not that Ray left, it's where he went.  Same with Doc.

So what are your thoughts if the highest paid player in the league just didn't feel like playing out the remaining 3 years of his contract. And what's the difference between that and Doc.

If anything at least Ray Allen was a free agent, had been constantly in teade rumors and pretty much almost traded before and went to a team that he could play a minor role in to possibly win a championship as he approaches 40 years old during his last nba years

I understand Ray was a free agent.  If he'd gone to the Clippers, I wouldn't have cared.  Also, if he hadn't taken several parting shots on his way out, I wouldn't have cared.  It remains to be seen how things play out, but I doubt Doc leaves for the Lakers, Heat, or any of a few other rival teams, and I doubt Doc leaves anything other than amicably.  Furthermore, it would appear that if Doc wants to leave for another team, as opposed to merely in the broadcast booth, that the Celtics will get compensation from that team, unlike when Ray left.

So no, it doesn't appear that it will be on par with Ray.

[CelticG1]

I still have yet to have someone explain the differnce to me 

Whats the difference between what Doc is doing and if the highest player in the league with 3 years left on his contract was pulling the same act?

I mean lets say even if Rondo did this 2 years after he signed his contract.

I mean if you don't care than you don't care. Some people don't care what Ray did, some people don't care what Howard did, or Melo or Lebron.

I'm not trying to make you care but at least see that in comparison to what other players have done its right up there

[Who]

I still have yet to have someone explain the differnce to me 

Whats the difference between what Doc is doing and if the highest player in the league with 3 years left on his contract was pulling the same act?

He is a suit. Doc is a suit. Players play. Suits sit on the sideline.

I care a heck of a lot more about the players who put on a Celtics a jersey than I do the non-playing staff (coaches, front office, ownership). The players are the reason why I show up to watch the team. Why I follow the team.

Not the guy in a suit.

[CelticG1]

I still have yet to have someone explain the differnce to me 

Whats the difference between what Doc is doing and if the highest player in the league with 3 years left on his contract was pulling the same act?

He is a suit. Doc is a suit. Players play. Suits sit on the sideline.

I care a heck of a lot more about the players who put on a Celtics a jersey than I do the non-playing staff (coaches, front office, ownership). The players are the reason why I show up to watch the team. Why I follow the team.

Not the guy in a suit.

Yeah that's true. Its still an unbelievable slimey and what I thought was uncharacteristic and contradictory to everything he said after he signed on for a contract to make him highest paid coach in the league.

For me I care a lot more about Doc Rivers than the whole Dwight Howard saga for the last couple years. But I'll still call dwight an immature selfish idiot

[edwardjkasche]

I would be a bit disappointed in Doc for abandoning his players and GM while he is still under contract simply because he doesn't want to face coaching through a rebuild.  I would be saddened to find out he's a front-runner.

However, I highly doubt Doc would turn around and coach next season.  If he took a year or two before moving on to coach elsewhere, I feel fans would accept it and move on.

Of course, EVERYTHING changes if he moves on to coach the Heat, Lakers, or Knicks.

The again, all the Celtics fans who rail against Doc on a weekly basis would probably love to see him go coach one of those organizations.

[CelticG1]

I would be a bit disappointed in Doc for abandoning his players and GM while he is still under contract simply because he doesn't want to face coaching through a rebuild.  I would be saddened to find out he's a front-runner.

However, I highly doubt Doc would turn around and coach next season.  If he took a year or two before moving on to coach elsewhere, I feel fans would accept it and move on.

Of course, EVERYTHING changes if he moves on to coach the Heat, Lakers, or Knicks.

The again, all the Celtics fans who rail against Doc on a weekly basis would probably love to see him go coach one of those organizations.

Since he's under contract he wouldn't be able to coach unless we gave him permission or his contract ran out.

So its either him saying he'd rathersit out 3 years than coach a "rebuilding team" or he's hoping danny/wyc would let him go somewhere to a non rival team.

Its just a bizaare odd situation. I mean if they work this out together and Doc somehow nets us some special compensation that our organization prefers than that's not as bad. Right now seems like Doc and Danny are on different pages tho since he was denied permission to speak to 2 teams already

[LatterDayCelticsfan]

I doubt they want to share the simple joy of of Doc bashing with the likes of Lakers fans

[LooseCannon]

Since he's under contract he wouldn't be able to coach unless we gave him permission or his contract ran out.

I wouldn't be shocked at all if Doc has a private agreement with Ainge/ownership that if the team goes into a full rebuild without Pierce/Garnett, that the team will let him do what he wants and the hold-up is that Ainge hasn't figured out yet if he can reload rather than rebuild.

[GreenEnvy]

Why do some feel Doc is holding the team hostage?

The draft is still weeks away and free agency hasn't begun, so I don't see what Ainge could be doing differently with Doc's decision. No coach is going to come here without seeing what happens with Pierce and KG first anyway.

Doc's decision is tied into Ainge's with Pierce, which is obviously tied to Garnett.

[csfansince60s]

Far too many "what if's...." out there to make a judgment on Rivers, yet, unlike Judas.

I am not a big fan of Doc as a coach. However....


Give the guy a break.

He has (despite what I think of him as a tactician and strategist and a poor developer of players) a public persona that is honorable. He should continue to enjoy that until all the facts come out, and it is proven otherwise.

[Aussie_Celtic]

Long time creeper, first time poster, HI EVERYONE

and I say hell no!

Doc has given his life, sweat and tears to this team. If he feels it's time for a new chapter in his life, that's ok by me.

It would hurt like crazy but in my mind, Doc deserves the very best in whatever he chooses to do.

[CelticG1]

Why do some feel Doc is holding the team hostage?

The draft is still weeks away and free agency hasn't begun, so I don't see what Ainge could be doing differently with Doc's decision. No coach is going to come here without seeing what happens with Pierce and KG first anyway.

Doc's decision is tied into Ainge's with Pierce, which is obviously tied to Garnett.

I think thats pretty ridiculous.

I'm willing to bet the Shaw, Hollins, or pretty much anyone besides Phil Jackson or something like that would jump in a heart.

I mean I'd think it would be at the top of anyFree agent coaches list and probably a lot of other current coaches